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Paradox buys White Wolf from CCP! Should we get our WoDMMO hopes up?

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Radical21:
Just seen this
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads%2Fparadox-interactive-acquires-white-wolf-publishing-from-ccp-games.888941%2F

"New Paradox Subsidiary will Operate Independently and Manage All White Wolf Properties, Including World of Darkness and Vampire: The Masquerade"

Hard to tell how they will approach this but Paradox helped publish some indie titles like Mount&Blade and many others. also looking at their portfolio most of the games developed at Paradox are the kind of historic setting that can work with some settings of WoD so this gives hope.

Valamyr:
I heard about this and I was excited for sure, even though obviously it'll take several years to lead to anything. But Paradox wouldn't have bought the rights just to sit on it. And anything is better news than it being shelved indefinitely.

I have a certain amount of access at Paradox as a long-time beta tester for several of their grand strategy titles but they've not said a word and will likely not say a word about it until much, much later in the development process. I wouldn't even expect an official confirmation that they're working on it for a couple years. But by my estimation, they will be.

Now, Paradox excels at grand strategy. If you ever played EU4 or CK2 or the upcoming HOI4, that's their strengths. That's what I beta for them. RPGs, not so much - they had to can a project for a Norse-themed RPG earlier this year because despite two years of development, it wasn't good enough. My best guess is that they'll be sub-liscensing the IP to Obsidian like people were guessing in the other thread - but either way, I'm happy something will happen with it even if its a decade late on CCP's original schedule.

Nigama:
Welcome back, Val! Great to see you again!  :cometome:

Valamyr:
Thanks :) I've never been truly gone, after all we all sat through nearly a decade of high expectations and crushing disappointment on CCP's attempt and failure. To make matters worse, the leaked docs when they finally gave up was exactly the kind of game I was hoping for all along (though some here clearly disagreed). It was pretty sad to see it die, and I could do with a revival for sure.

One thing that's very important to note is that this acquisition included *all assets and code* that has been developed for WODMMO according to mmorpg.com - meaning that they likely bought it to continue work towards the MMO rather than a single player project. AND the project will be headed by Martin Ericsson, senior content designer on CCP's failed attempt. He probably knows what went wrong and must have a vision as to how to do better. Given Paradox owns the work done so far, no matter whether they choose to build a team in-house or sublicense Obsidian - we could actually be playing WODMMO by 2020 IMO.

 

Radical21:

--- Quote from: Valamyr on November 03, 2015, 04:56:23 pm ---
One thing that's very important to note is that this acquisition included *all assets and code* that has been developed for WODMMO according to mmorpg.com - meaning that they likely bought it to continue work towards the MMO rather than a single player project. AND the project will be headed by Martin Ericsson, senior content designer on CCP's failed attempt. He probably knows what went wrong and must have a vision as to how to do better. Given Paradox owns the work done so far, no matter whether they choose to build a team in-house or sublicense Obsidian - we could actually be playing WODMMO by 2020 IMO.

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Oh good to know, I was curious about that part.  2020, that is more than 4 years now , i'd be an old geezer by then but admittedly I'd be happy with anything they release by now as long as its not utterly bad.

 Technology is improving at a remarkable rate though , Have you seen MMO projects like Landmark or Everquest Next for example? you know, stuff people said could never work in an MMO a couple of years back: so who knows where we will be in 4 years, I just tested UE4's demos on my new 64bit PC (980GTX + i7 6700k) and it looks  kind of photo real amazing. I wonder if that is what being an old geezer feels like, that feeling that things are changing so fast people could land on mars a short time after tomorrow..

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