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Offline Radical21

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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2014, 04:07:30 AM »
At present Elite and Star Citizen are Pre-alpha, I wouldn't call them anymore viable, especially when you put them next to a long running MMO like EVE... I get what you are saying but I still don't think it will make WoDMMO happen... if it makes them release the project to the community that will actually do something with it great but that is very unlikely.

In the end nothing changed as far as WOD video games are concerned : if you want to step out of the cage you need to use WOD for inspiration in order to create a viable multiplayer game out of it otherwise you are always trapped with a restricted engine or IP licensing.

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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2014, 04:41:35 AM »
Elite is in playable alpha with beta starting next month. The fact that Eve is a long running game may not be helpful since it possibly boxed itself in with innability to resolve many issues and bad design decisions.

It's true that Eve Online has strong community but i wonder if it's enough to compete with games that propably will be more modern, more newbie-friendly and will contain some of the features CCP had promised years ago.

Anyway, whatever happen to Eve, WoD is lost and propably there won't be any game set in IP for at least few years. That's why I recommended Cyberpunk 2077 as this game  in my opinion is the closest in mood and mechanic to this what WoDo should be.
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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2014, 08:29:03 AM »
Jesus, not something I was expecting to read when I came on here.

My condolences to those who were laid off from this move.  It was a mercy killing, and yet it was a killing that, in retrospect, was easily avoidable had they not given in to CCP.

Sticking to their guns is a natural thing to do, but they tried to influence one game with another.  In theory that'd be innovation out the ass, but on paper it looks like someone drew an ass.  But you don't need to base your new games off the success of your current ones, as they have recently found out the hard way.  Though there was no guarantee it would of been good at the stage (and time) things were at before cancellation.

Maybe we'll get some horror stories in the coming months after things cool down.
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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2014, 10:24:28 AM »

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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2014, 04:31:35 PM »
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"We believe that the World of Darkness IP is very valuable and will be reviewing the status of it in the coming weeks and months, but we have no specific plans under consideration at this time," a CCP spokesperson told us.
Sooooo... they killed it, and are now leaving it to rot. It really shouldn't take months to decide what to do with an IP, and if you lay off one project without having a plan to replace it, it's bad for everybody.

Hilmar only hears whining and dollar signs.
Which is why I was leery of them making a WODMMO in the first place. MMO companies always listen to the whiners and the $$ before anything else. CCP has demonstrated a surprising amount of consideration with their Council of Stellar Management, but I don't even know how that's been going lately.

We had a very strong community in Star Wars Galaxies. Great game (before it died), great people, fun atmosphere - but that didn't stop it from being put down. I got out of it many years ago, but recently I've seen videos of its literal ending - and the thousands of players who SAT THERE UNTIL THEY GOT KICKED OFF THE SERVERS FOREVER, because they wanted every last second they could grab.
A great community is going to mean jack shizzle of the rest of the game can't live up to it, or the producers decide to kill it. If you want a great community, come play tabletop or a single-player game. That's what this site was originally founded on, and look where we are today he said with no trace of sarcasm!

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I just saw a new Flash advertisement for EVE Online that said:
EVE ONLINE
BE THE VILLAIN

I chuckled. It was just too perfect.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2014, 04:40:37 PM by Rick Gentle »
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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2014, 07:04:34 PM »
Honestly I just prefer to play DayZ on the ZeroSurvival server... Sandbox, Basebuilding, balance ,No P2W, 100% FFA PvP and 0% tolerance towards hacking or combat logging, that stuff is sorely missing in the MMORPG environment and the only reason it happens on DayZ is cause its a private server.

Would be nice if there was something like that for WoD.

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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2014, 09:57:40 PM »
Pig tails, heart trails, and... "Press E to Seduce"?

It LOOKS like the World of Darkness, and it TASTED like the World of Darkness... but it's not acting like the World of Darkness...
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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2014, 11:05:09 PM »
Pig tails, heart trails, and... "Press E to Seduce"?

It LOOKS like the World of Darkness, and it TASTED like the World of Darkness... but it's not acting like the World of Darkness...

So Rick do you want to tell us what is not acting like WoD there? I admit it seems somewhat fishmalk to go around like a goth school girl seducing people to ghoul them but I assume its only one of the things you could do in that game.

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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2014, 01:02:56 AM »
http://wodmmo.ru/world-of-darkness-posleslovie/ 

Translate the page from Russian and enjoy. Thanks to Leogrium for showing me this. The biggest "bombshell" is these documents linked in the article:

https://docviewer.yandex.com/?url=ya-disk-public%3A%2F%2FjBtVWEj6jI1LSCSyKH%2FrkotjmHYrHtsl%2BdOXr8sZT3o%3D&name=marchwalkthrough.pdf&page=0&c=535ee9cdd05f
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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2014, 01:05:59 AM »
The Old World of Darkness was the first RPG I ever played that gave a fair and in-depth aspect to social play. And, luckless bachelor that I am, I'm pretty sure that seducing an attractive female takes more than holding down "E". If you can make and keep ghouls with just a snap of your magic fingers, then it really sounds like they wanted to put in something I wanted to avoid: having ghoul "pets" running around being your bodyguards or sex-slaves. (That is to say, running around being your bodyguards and sex-slaves without any EFFORT.)
Aside from that particular bit, one of the screenshots is showing that Tremere chick casting a spell straight out of World of WarCraft - big, flashy AoE complete with a hexagrammic targeting circle. I think the most explosive Thaumaturgy power is Cauldron of Blood, and it's not an AoE, and until the person explodes from boiling blood, it's really not that flashy a power.

Aside from the WoW-ness of it... it looks cool. I want to know if they have any screenshots of Gangrel doing Gangrely things. It might change my mind if Protean is as overpowered and flashy as Thaumaturgy seems to be.
Also, I would like to know how that Tremere chick got on top of that building. They don't have any Disciplines that would allow them to get up there from the outside (barring Movement of the Mind - which would be awesome if they included it, but it seems like a lot of effort); but if they would let us access a given building and climb the stairs to the roof... that's much more better.
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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2014, 06:05:08 AM »
Blood...crafting...?
Would we at least have gotten to design that bar-looking space? It looks sort of like a property we'd own, like a bank for our ghouls.

"Brood"? That's an actual power? I thought that was just something Toreador and Brujah did as a hunting tactic...

The city map looks pretty awesome.
"Vitae at Stake"... sounds like they were really dead serious about blood as a literal currency. Hax.

I hope we would've at least gotten to design the room with the bed. That's GOT to be a haven.

Bloodcrafting again... Eeeeeeehhhhhhhhh... Sounds an awful lot like a crafting system out of a game like Diablo III or Path of Exile, only instead of gear and lootz, you have properties on your Disciplines. Eeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhh.

The black skull UI thing looks cool. I'm guessing that's the result of a Masquerade breach and/or a Humanity loss. Maybe Rotschreck?

Create Character... Please tell me the one on the left is NOT a Nossie. Also, a choice between starting as a mortal or a vampire? What would the point be in that? If you could only choose to be Embraced voluntarily, you'd just be waiting around until someone from the right Clan showed up anyway.

The tracking looks kind of cool. They had that in Star War Galaxies, and it was one of the best parts of being a Ranger. At least it's a step up from the "Heartbeat Trail". I hope it requires a skill in Survival or a specialty in Tracking or something. If I had been designing the WODMMO, I would've made each skill have at least three Specialties, like the sub-categories of skills in EVE Online.

Though all-in-all, the comments below the pictures have a point...
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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2014, 10:33:27 PM »
Don't act so shock Rick, Im not sure if its was you or Cahalith but you kept saying 'Blood economy ... blood economy' even though its a stupid idea that doesn't make sense and now you are surprised that they actually listened?.


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Re: Former CCP dev claims WoD might have been cancelled (NOW Confirmed)
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2014, 11:14:33 PM »
I was always opposed to blood being a currency. Control of ghouls, blood dolls, and feeding domain? Sure. But a currency? Hax no. That's what it sounds like in those screenshots. There's no reason why you should be able to trade points of vitae for anything but Disciplines and healing. And maybe ghouling.
But definitely not XP or domain itself.
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