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Offline Psycho-A

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Re: A New Resurgence
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2014, 10:16:54 PM »
To be honest, I puzzled this comment of RavaFX leader:

"I would like to think (if I may) that our competitors are CyberPunk 2077 and Mass Effect 4. I think its better to aim as high as possible ..."

If this is indeed the projects that they are equal, then I'm afraid that we'll never see the adequate World of Darkness-like universe. Besides, the company Logo's style is clearly indicates this, alas...

I'm very hope I'm wrong...
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Re: A New Resurgence
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2014, 11:57:36 PM »
Well actually to be honest, the Abrahamic basis for Vampire: The Masquerade and perhaps the entire WoD, is actually one of the main problematic aspects of all where it pretty much enables white European centricism...

I think the main problem here is Gehenna! Until then I liked the whole thing about Caine being the first vampire, because it was just the believe of most vampires, a myth. Once they made it true, the problems started...

Exactly and being Abrahamic like it was, it also had Apocalypicsm as well.

I think it should have been treated that Caine was one of the "First Vampire Progenitor" myths among many others which Caine specifically was developed from societies that are predominated with Abrahamic religions by the Vampires living in it. 

Of course sadly in V:tM (and WoD) it didn't turn out that way which White Wolf and especially it's creator Mark Reign Hagan whose father being a Lutheran minister (which he actually admitted that he influenced him while creating V:tM) made specifically clear from the start....

One thing certain I hope Project Rava also doesn't have the baggage that V:tM had either (Like rigid clans especially the captain ethnic racist stereotypes that were the Independent clans not to mention the Orientalism of KotE, Sect vs Sect, Abrahamic basis, etc).
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Re: A New Resurgence
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2014, 03:31:11 AM »
I think it should have been treated that Caine was one of the "First Vampire Progenitor" myths among many others which Caine specifically was developed from societies that are predominated with Abrahamic religions by the Vampires living in it.

This could be a good idea for the new one. Combined with your previous post about human belief shaping reality, it could even be true to an extent, retroactively, because enough vamps believe it.
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Re: A New Resurgence
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2014, 04:31:15 AM »
I'm not stuck on a "Gothic-Punk" setting, but I would like to say that you should do one thing at a time, finish it well, and then add in something else. Don't get scattered working on a dozen different aspects of the setting/content only to do them all half-assed. We don't need steampunk and decopunk and yokai and tentacle monsters and fairy unicorn half-demon frog princes so much as we need Vampires.
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Re: A New Resurgence
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2014, 10:28:04 AM »
I think it should have been treated that Caine was one of the "First Vampire Progenitor" myths among many others which Caine specifically was developed from societies that are predominated with Abrahamic religions by the Vampires living in it.

This is exaclty how I saw it, until I read the bad Gehenna novel in which it turned out that everything was true...

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Re: A New Resurgence
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2014, 03:16:27 PM »
I think it should have been treated that Caine was one of the "First Vampire Progenitor" myths among many others which Caine specifically was developed from societies that are predominated with Abrahamic religions by the Vampires living in it.

This is exaclty how I saw it, until I read the bad Gehenna novel in which it turned out that everything was true...

Or maybe you was wrong from the get go and I think White Wolf/Mark Reign Hagan made it clear that it was all true since the beginning especially what "Demon: The Fallen's" main purpose was not only being the last major OWoD gameline produced suspiciously before White Wolf decided to end it with the "Time of Judgement" afterwords but also specifically only reminded us what basis the WoD has taken since it's also the only game that unified all the other gamelines if one would read the Demon books carefully....

I'm not stuck on a "Gothic-Punk" setting, but I would like to say that you should do one thing at a time, finish it well, and then add in something else. Don't get scattered working on a dozen different aspects of the setting/content only to do them all half-assed. We don't need steampunk and decopunk and yokai and tentacle monsters and fairy unicorn half-demon frog princes so much as we need Vampires.

I think you're not seeing things through here nor you understand we need diversity.
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Re: A New Resurgence
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2014, 05:48:59 PM »
Or maybe you was wrong from the get go and I think White Wolf/Mark Reign Hagan made it clear that it was all true since the beginning...

That's possible, at that time my whole WoD knowledge was that gained from Bloodlines and it nevers is made clear there, even though Troika play with the idea that the cabbie is an incantation of Caine. Still I think it was a bad move to end the oWoD with Gehenna, because people didn't like the new one as much and this might have been another nail in the coffin for White Wolf.

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Re: A New Resurgence
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2014, 03:40:29 AM »
I'm not stuck on a "Gothic-Punk" setting, but I would like to say that you should do one thing at a time, finish it well, and then add in something else. Don't get scattered working on a dozen different aspects of the setting/content only to do them all half-assed. We don't need steampunk and decopunk and yokai and tentacle monsters and fairy unicorn half-demon frog princes so much as we need Vampires.

I think you're not seeing things through here nor you understand we need diversity.

So are you saying you WANT tentacle monsters...?
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Re: A New Resurgence
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2014, 05:52:46 PM »
I'm not stuck on a "Gothic-Punk" setting, but I would like to say that you should do one thing at a time, finish it well, and then add in something else. Don't get scattered working on a dozen different aspects of the setting/content only to do them all half-assed. We don't need steampunk and decopunk and yokai and tentacle monsters and fairy unicorn half-demon frog princes so much as we need Vampires.

I think you're not seeing things through here nor you understand we need diversity.

So are you saying you WANT tentacle monsters...?

Well....I mean monsters as long they fit folklore/legends or maybe Vampires with shadow or 'vicissitude' tentacles....

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Re: A New Resurgence
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2014, 04:58:15 PM »
The game will be futurist or fake? :pixorstfu:

When will the next new? :) (For Christmas?) :chinscratch: