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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2020, 09:55:03 pm »
Funny. I see the literal manifestation of young vampire generation annoying my old generation. The praise goes to deaf ears.
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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2020, 11:55:56 pm »
Funny. I see the literal manifestation of young vampire generation annoying my old generation. The praise goes to deaf ears.

Excuse us please, I know it's hip to hate on Bioware now *sigh*

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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2020, 01:13:29 am »
I got 2 questions.  How did you guys feel about poor Ser Jory in DAO, the knight Duncan kills during the ritual?  I always believed if Jory had not panicked he would have survived the ritual.  I thought the whole scene with the ritual was one of the greatest parts of Origins.

Also what background, race, and gender are your canon Warden/Hawke/Inquisitor?

For me my canon Warden was a dual wielding warrior male Cousland.  My canon Hawke is a male mage, and lastly even though I never completed it, my canon Inquisitor was a big male two handed warrior Qunari.  I still have the saves of my first and only playthrough of Inquistion thanks to Origin and it's cloud service.  So if part four looks good.  I mean I always wanted to go to Tevinter.  If the game looks and sounds good, I'll try and complete Inquisition.  But I heard EA pressured BioWare to include multiplayer and microtransactions.  Which makes me hesitant to buy.
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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2020, 01:40:46 am »
I got 2 questions.  How did you guys feel about poor Ser Jory in DAO, the knight Duncan kills during the ritual?  I always believed if Jory had not panicked he would have survived the ritual.  I thought the whole scene with the ritual was one of the greatest parts of Origins.

An amazing scene indeed. I can understand why the Grey Wardens do what they must, considering the knowledge about the ritual would be rather damning for them. It still seems a bit harsh but at least Duncan isn't a jerk about the entire thing and is very clear about why he had to kill Jory.

My canon warden is a male city elf rogue that uses and bow and dual wields daggers. My canon Hawke is a male rogue archer and my canon inquisitor is a male elf rogue... that uses bows and arrows.

I know, I'm addicted. Forgive me.

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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2020, 03:33:47 am »
Lol, I am the same way with warriors and mages.  I find keeping rogues alive in the DA games hard.  In DAO both Leliana and Zevran are the first to go down.  In DA2 Isabela goes down first, and in Inquisition, Cole and Sera always go down first.   I'm just bad at leveling them up.  I never know what to pick for them.
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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2020, 08:03:18 am »
Funny. I see the literal manifestation of young vampire generation annoying my old generation. The praise goes to deaf ears.

Excuse us please, I know it's hip to hate on Bioware now *sigh*

I want to give you a like for that. Even in the Bioware forum, some people have nothing
Funny. I see the literal manifestation of young vampire generation annoying my old generation. The praise goes to deaf ears.

Excuse us please, I know it's hip to hate on Bioware now *sigh*

I really want to like your comment :)
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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2020, 08:21:58 am »
Ser Jory: he seemed a bit full of prejudices. When I approach him as a woman, he muses about why women are in the Grey Warden, same with an elf. He seems to be trapped in his classical vision about knighthood and I wasn't that surprised, when he panicked during the Joining, because it was not at all, what he thought. It was a powerful scene. It also helped to set the Grey Wardens up.

I have more than one Canon in each game, I play them too often and normally my current playthrough is always my favorite, but there are some all-time favorites :

DAO
-my castless dwarf Lady
-my female Amell, whom I playing right now
-Raven Tabris, a very angry bride

DA2
-Emily Hawke, rogue and Isabellamancer
-Liya Hawke, mage and very cheeky(she goes mostly for the purple answers)

DAI
There I have a clear favorite :Riya Lavellan, mage. She was such a fun character to play, nice, easygoing, funny.

What about favorite romances, do you have them? Or are they not that important to you?

My favorite in DAO is clearly Zevran, one of my favorite characters from the games. I like, how it started casual and becomes so deep in the end.
In DA2 it's Isabella. It's a bit similar to Zevran, I guess. I just love that character.
My favorite in DAI is Iron Bull. His romance is surprisingly deep. He always has something comforting to say after every mission and he is just fun to have around.
I have to make a male character some day for the Dorian romance. I normally play my own gender in role playing games if I can (only in video games, I do play male characters in our pen & paper rounds), but I like Dorian and would probably make an exception for him. Still not sure, what kind of character. Maybe a dwarf, more the Varric type...
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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2020, 11:41:21 am »
For romances in Origins is a tie between Morrigan and Leliana.  I really like how Morrigan changes when around the Warden.  She is still cruel, but if you romance her you see a more softer side when in private.  Morrigan is voiced by Claudia Black, who played Aeryn Sun in Farscape.  Both Aeryn and Morrigan are similar in a way.  Due to their upbringing they have a tough exterior.  But are really compassionate when you really get to know them.  I mean look how much Morrigan changed in DAI as a mother.  Leliana I like she is sweet and cute but due to her past, my Warden has to sleep with one eye open.

In DA2:  Isabela, I really like her.  The thing is her romance spans ten years.  Until she gets serious about Hawke.

DAI:  I love Cassandra.  She is the only one I romanced.  After I finish my KOTOR 2 playthrough with the restoration mod, and after I finish with VTMB, I will try and replay DAI.  I also want to romance Josephine she is so cute!

I too play as my gender (male) in rpg's, especially BioWare rpg's were characters romance you. 

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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2020, 11:57:13 am »
For romances in Origins is a tie between Morrigan and Leliana.  I really like how Morrigan changes when around the Warden.  She is still cruel, but if you romance her you see a more softer side when in private.  Morrigan is voiced by Claudia Black, who played Aeryn Sun in Farscape.  Both Aeryn and Morrigan are similar in a way.  Due to their upbringing they have a tough exterior.  But are really compassionate when you really get to know them.  I mean look how much Morrigan changed in DAI as a mother.  Leliana I like she is sweet and cute but due to her past, my Warden has to sleep with one eye open.

In DA2:  Isabela, I really like her.  The thing is her romance spans ten years.  Until she gets serious about Hawke.

DAI:  I love Cassandra.  She is the only one I romanced.  After I finish my KOTOR 2 playthrough with the restoration mod, and after I finish with VTMB, I will try and replay DAI.  I also want to romance Josephine she is so cute!

I too play as my gender (male) in rpg's, especially BioWare rpg's were characters romance you.

Despite loving Claudia Black, I never really connected to Morrigan. I don't despise her as much as in the first playthroughs, but I never really liked her. I think the deal breaker for me in regards to Morrigan is, that she gives you dissapproval, when you don't allow the Tevinter to take the city elfs as slaves.

I romanced Leliana with my female Cousland, that was a nice romance too. But Zevran's still my favorite.

Cassandra is a pretty cool character in DAI. I like the conversations with her. And even though, most of my characters have different opinions from her and are normally not religious (I can't bring myself to play a religious person), she is totally ok with it. I like, that Cassandra approves and dissaproves mostly of your actions.

I must say, that I generally like the companion cast in DAI the most. I'm not a big fan of Solas, but  apart from that, I love the cast. After that comes the cast of DA2, mainly because of Varric and Isabella, two of my alltime favorites and then DAO. In DAO I mostly like Zevran, Wynne, Leliana and Sten. The rest is meh for me andf Oghren stays in the camp the whole game. I hate, that he is forced on you again in DAA. But it seems many people find him funny. I only find him sad and a bit pathetic.
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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2020, 02:17:03 pm »
ROMANCES... THE BREAD AND BUTTER AND CRUST AND JAM AND EGGS AND ORANGE JUICE OF EVERY BIOWARE GAME !



Wait... that's not a Bioware game... nevermind.

As for Dragon Age: Origins, I really liked Morrigan's romance and how well it linked itself to the main plot. On the contrary however, I have a crisis with DA:I as I currently have no relationship whatsoever... I did not enjoy Josephine's romance and Cassandra is... a nun in armor... I don't know. My only solution might be to create a female elf and try the Blackwall romance, since he is one of my favorite characters in DA:I

You'll obviously note that I left DA:2 last... and for one damn good reason:



Way. Too. Much. Fun.

It's not often that you get a romance option like Isabela, who disagrees with most of the traditional moral choices that any male player might make in a game like this. It demands of you, the player, to know her, understand her and be legitimately interested in her character to not only allow you to gain her affection but also to change her mindset and her values in a significant manner. Bravo Bioware.

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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2020, 04:02:59 pm »
I only played the Isabela romance with female Hawkes, but it is fun too. There is as much emphasis on the romance factor as is on female bonding.

The Blackwall romance is great too. He was my first romance and it was nice and down to earth. He is a bit too serious for my taste though. Nevertheless great character and well written romance arc.
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« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2020, 04:58:17 pm »
@Fylimar:  Like I said Morrigan is still a cruel bitch even if you romance her.  but I like how she is in camp when talking to the player.  My favorite cast is the one from Origins, I like almost all the companions except for Ohgren.  My second favorite cast is DAI, I like all except Sera.  Solas saved my Qunari's hide many times.  Though I never completed the game I know about Solas' true identity.  Lastly my third favorite cast is from DA2, don't get me wrong I like the dynamic between Hawke and Carver, I just don't find that cast that memorable.

About Ser Jory.  I did not know he talks down to the player if they are a woman.  I never played a female character in the game, so I did not know.  As a male Cousland he is respectful.  As a male mage he is somewhat frightened of you.

@Highwayman667:  I agree about Isabela she is my favorite romance in that game.  I almost let all the negative comments about the game deter me from playing DA2.  Luckily I gave it a chance and enjoyed it.
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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2020, 09:02:49 pm »
I agree about Isabela she is my favorite romance in that game.  I almost let all the negative comments about the game deter me from playing DA2.  Luckily I gave it a chance and enjoyed it.

You chose well *claps*

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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2020, 09:55:12 am »
@Fylimar:  Like I said Morrigan is still a cruel bitch even if you romance her.  but I like how she is in camp when talking to the player.  My favorite cast is the one from Origins, I like almost all the companions except for Ohgren.  My second favorite cast is DAI, I like all except Sera.  Solas saved my Qunari's hide many times.  Though I never completed the game I know about Solas' true identity.  Lastly my third favorite cast is from DA2, don't get me wrong I like the dynamic between Hawke and Carver, I just don't find that cast that memorable.

About Ser Jory.  I did not know he talks down to the player if they are a woman.  I never played a female character in the game, so I did not know.  As a male Cousland he is respectful.  As a male mage he is somewhat frightened of you.

@Highwayman667:  I agree about Isabela she is my favorite romance in that game.  I almost let all the negative comments about the game deter me from playing DA2.  Luckily I gave it a chance and enjoyed it.

Ser Jory comes across as a bit racist, when you talk to him as an elf or a dwarf. He seems to be a very conservative guy, who thinks, only men and humans can fight and should join the Grey Wardens. Which is strange in a world, where women can be everything they want. Elves don't have a good reputation, but from what I get, dwarves have. So he is just being a bigott here I gues. Maybe a really insecure guy, judging by his otehr dialogues.

I really would have loved for Daveth to survive and become a companion, but he seems to share some similarities with Zevran, so maybe that would have been redundant.

Apart from Varric (the best of all), Zevran, Isa and Dorian, I really like the Iron Bull. ANd I thought, I wouldn't warm up to him before playing the game - mostly because of the ridiculous name. But he is such a great character, fun to have around, but he often is the one, saying something porfound and/or comforting to the inquisitor. I must say, I really like his romance. And I love the Chargers, great group. They never get sacrificed in my games.That would be like sacrificing teh crew of the Serenity - a nogo for me.

Do you have quests, you really love? I really like In Hushed Whispers, the quest, you do, if you go after the mages in Redcliffe. It has such a nice Doctor Who vibe to it and of course meeting Dorian is great. I do like Felix, Alexius son, too. Such a nice and sadly tragic character.

In DAO I love the quest with the Dalish and the werewolves. It's nice, that you can bring peace to both groups and I really like the storyteller of the Dalish, despite him being very antagonistic at first, if you not Dalish. But if you talk to him, he warms up and is really helpful later. I like Lanaya and Swiftrunner too.

In DA2, I love the Mark of the Assassin dlc. IT's a nice, light hearted adventure with fun companion banter.
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Re: The Bioware Spot
« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2020, 05:17:59 pm »
And I love the Chargers, great group. They never get sacrificed in my games.That would be like sacrificing teh crew of the Serenity - a nogo for me.

That's an interesting decision. Are the lives of the chargers more valuable than what is probably a hundred qunari crewmen ?

If anything the outcome of saving the chargers is a lot more fun: "Oh, this deadly poison ? Don't worry Inquisitor, already took the antidote a few days ago !"

Do you have quests, you really love? I really like In Hushed Whispers, the quest, you do, if you go after the mages in Redcliffe. It has such a nice Doctor Who vibe to it and of course meeting Dorian is great. I do like Felix, Alexius son, too. Such a nice and sadly tragic character.

This quest is so fucking good.

It's a bit of a shame that none of the sidequests (PERHAPS making exceptions on the companion ones) are nowhere near this good. If DA4 has quests like that, inside a tighter, more focused game... then we'll have a new classic on our hands.

In DA2, I love the Mark of the Assassin dlc. IT's a nice, light hearted adventure with fun companion banter.

It's kind of a shame that these type of expansion packs, or even quests in the main game, don't seem to engage a lot of the fandom. Many people want a story about the end of the world with every game but fail to realize that it become redundant over time. That's why I've been a bit skeptical about the whole deal with Solas and the Dread Wolf, it's looking like it might be yet another story with "huge stakes"... we'll see.

 

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