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Offline Barabbah

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Nightwish, Once and the big hoax
« on: December 30, 2018, 02:10:55 PM »
Do you remember the album Once by Nightwish, particulary the song Creek Mary Blood? This song, about the native americans genocide, featured an indian poem sung by a famous native artist called John Two Hawks considered by the Nightwish fans a mile stone on their career.

Sadly is a hoax.

This Two Hawks guy, presenting himself to be a Lakota native, is not a real native, doesn't know the language and still makes a living as a native guru. The poetry, sketched by the band pianist and songwriter Tuomas Holopainen, which is supposed it was translated and adapted in the Lakota language by this new age crook instead is a random gibberish with some occasional actual Lakota words

http://www.nightwishonline.com/index.php?/forums/topic/1026-john-two-hawks/&

I know it's old news, but I've discovered it yesterday and it broke my heart :(
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Re: Nighiwish, Once and the big hoax
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2018, 05:35:45 PM »
He should've check thorougfully with whom he's dealing with when attempting to do a serious song. By irony, the phrase that was supposed to mean "go with spirit, and do good", roughly translates as "go run around with evil spirits" in broken Lakota.

I'm more surprised that no one got the meaning of "Nymphomaniac Fantasia" lyrics. The intro phrase and the last spoken verse are said from a different character's point of view.

Not much interested in their post Century Child material. However, The Poet and the Pendulum could've been a genuinely decent song about E. A. Poe if not the fuzzy production and Tuomas' Mary Sue.
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Re: Nighiwish, Once and the big hoax
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2018, 06:17:16 PM »
Some sources says he asked an american embassy, others he did a google search (others furthermore it was the embassy who suggested him to search on google)
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Re: Nightwish, Once and the big hoax
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2019, 06:31:12 PM »
That's so fucked up. I love Nightwish.