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Offline Talyn82

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Games that are about the personal journey.
« on: April 12, 2020, 11:55:58 pm »
Like the title says this a thread for games that are about the personal journey more so than saving the world.  They don't have to be rpg's only, they can be from a wide range of games.  You can also rank them if you like.


Here are a few of mine.  In no particular order:


Planescape: Torment (RPG)
Baldur's Gate II  (RPG)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II.  (RPG)
Dragon Age 2  (RPG)
Castlevania:  Lords of Shadow  (Action)
Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen I  (Action/ RPG lite)


I'll add more as I remember the games.  Then I will rank them.

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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2020, 07:17:19 pm »
Excellent choices Talyn. However, before we start ranking I think it would be important to define what a personal journey is.

I think a personal journey, put simply, is a story where the main character is trying to accomplish an individual goal, one that concerns them and only them. It might have no bearing on their context as a whole, and if it does too much then it's not really a personal journey now, is it ? We can all agree that despite his journey as a grey warden, the Hero of Ferelden is on no personal journey where Dragon Age: Origins is concerned. It's a pretty huge story actually !

To me the most clear example of a personal journey in videogames is The Nameless One's adventure in Planescape: Torment. He is not out there trying to "save Sigil" or "topple the tyranny of The Lady of Pain" or whatever bullshit. He wants to find out what is wrong with him... nothing more, nothing less. The consequences are obviously huge but they mostly pertain him and him alone.

Recently, I played Unreal Gold. Loved it. It doesn't have a very fleshed out story but it does seem like a personal journey: a prisoner in a starship survives the crash landing of the latter and manages to escape to an unknown planet where she finds hostile aliens. Her journey is personal to me since it only involves a struggle for survival.
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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2020, 01:25:31 am »
@Highwayman667:  You did a better job at describing what a game about a personal journey is than I ever could.  Currently I am playing Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, and even though the main character has to kill the Lords of Shadow as ordered by his Holy order, he is doing it in hopes that he can resurrect his dead wife.  So basically he is only doing it to get something out of it.


Yeah, Planescape is one of my top favorite rpg's all time.  I like how you kept your post spoiler free for those who haven't played it.  Chris Avellone is a gifted writer.  Whenever you have a chance you should try Star Wars:  Knights of the Old Republic II.  He wrote and was lead designer for that game, just like he did  with Planescape.  In that game you have to stop three Sith Lords, but the story is more of a personal journey.  You have to make amends for your past.  Or not.  You also could choose the lightside or darkside. 


Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen is the first in a series of games that began on the original Playstation.  In it you play nobleman turned vampire, Kain.  His goal is to find his killers and end his curse, but along the way he begins to embrace his power and at the end you have to make a personal choice.  It's a really old game the graphics are shitty, but the story, music and voice acting is gold.  Sorta like VTMB.  There is a hard to find PC version, but that version is buggy and unstable and super hard to find.


well Baldur's Gate II and Dragon Age 2 you know what they're about, so I won't get into detail about those.

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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2020, 02:13:02 pm »
VTM Coeteries of New York ofc. Finished it lastly and I was very impressed, never tought like visual talkin game can be that great

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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2020, 04:27:50 pm »
@Wicih:  I'm glad to hear that.  Hopefully VTMB 2 will have the same quality.
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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2020, 08:35:13 pm »
@Talyn82 Hoply, meantime from I can recomend upcoming DLC to Coteries,it will be avalibe this year, and it heralds itself even better than Coteries

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1279630/Vampire_The_Masquerade__Shadows_of_New_York/
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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2020, 01:09:34 am »
Welcome to the forums kindred Wicih !

@Talyn82: Interesting ! Usually the Castlevania series is anything but personal since it deals with the massive undertaking of destroying Dracula for the sake of humanity but I've seen a few things here and there that do make it more personal. Symphony and the Night is a father VS son story, for example. And despite the poor reception Castlevania 64 got, it does tell a beautiful story of Reinhardt, a vampire hunter that is forced to overcome his hatred of vampires, and let me tell you it deffinitely moved me.

I will try my best to play Kotor 2 as soon as possible. I've yet to finish BG2 and a crazy russian game I've been playing called Pathologic (deffinitely not a personal story that one).

AND BRAAAAAHHH THE LEGACY OF KAIN SERIES. Who can forget Kain and Raziel ? Those guys are legend !

And a very interesting choice of franchise. I think that, even though neither Kain nor Raziel deal with a personal journey, they are both faced with their own choices and struggles about what is exactly right or wrong, who are really their enemies and what kind of goals is each trying to pursue. And though I haven't played Blood Omen 1, I know it's a bit of a revenge story (similar to Soul Reaver 1) that transforms in new titles to a bigger journey about fighting impossibly powerful forces related to fate and time itself (the creepy elder god in simple terms).
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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2020, 04:27:00 pm »
@Wilich:  I check that game out.  I have not played it yet.
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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2020, 04:33:44 pm »
@Highwayman667:  Yep the Legacy of Kain is a memorable and severely underrated series.  I was introduced to it with the original Blood Omen which is the first game in the entire series.  It introduces Kain and you get to play as him as a young vampire. 
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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2020, 07:44:20 pm »
Red dead redemption, that is personal.

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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2020, 09:16:01 pm »
@Talyn82: Man I am so dying to get an online version of Blood Omen. I've played every game of the original franchise... except that one !

@Happydeathclaw: I believe both 1 and 2 are personal stories, as most westerns are really. I mean, no cowboy that I know of has ever saved the world... *rubs chin*

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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2020, 09:21:05 pm »
Oh almost forgotten, the edgiest game I have ever played. Quite not sure isn't it compliment but...

Agony

it's very very very very dark and cruel tale about lost soul traveling Hell in searchin of Red Godess, actual
some kind of Princess of Hell. All game has a deep atmosphere, great soundtrack and much cool vizual stuff. And there are song by Android Lust in it <3

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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2020, 09:35:37 pm »
I could be wrong, but aren't the Souls games and Bloodborne more about a personal journey than anything else? The worlds are already fucked up, what you do, wouldn't really change that, but you can try and keep your humanity - at least, that was how I saw it.
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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2020, 10:19:02 pm »
@Highwayman667:  The PC version is broken.  It would be great if GoG.com got it and made it playable on modern machines.  Also in that game you basically become a god.  I hated it how they nerfed Kain in the later games.  I know there's a story reason for it, but I wanted future Kain to be a continuation of his Blood Omen self.  But the original Soul Reaver  explains why Kain is not as powerful as he was in Blood Omen.  Although with the end of Defiance he should be back to full power if they ever made a sequel. 
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Re: Games that are about the personal journey.
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2020, 03:04:00 am »
@fylimar: No idea because I haven't played the Souls and Bloodborne games but I think it would fit the bill if they are indeed as you describe them. Don't you play as some sort of undead in Souls ?

@Talyn82: Yeah I never got that impression about Kain because I never played Blood Omen. Personally, even though Blood Omen 2 has it's issues I think that game tells a good story (not a brilliant one) that a lot of people didn't understand. It's not like it was Planescape 2 but it had a lot of nuances that people never caught upon. Then again I entered this franchise through Soul Reaver 1 which gives you a completely different perspective of Kain.

As for a sequel to the whole franchise, I'd rather some company just buy the license and kickstart or indiegogo the whole thing. Nobody seems interested in the industry with trying to revive the story and some people got angry because somebody decided to reintroduce it as a multiplayer game, which I thought was a good platform to create interest in an actual sequel BUUUUUT there's no stopping angry gamers I guess.

 

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