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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2017, 08:32:50 AM »
Another flash from the past - Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni.



When you want to give a perfect example of a Toreador and an autarkis, you can only name this sculptor and painter. His frescoes, architecture, sculpture and even poetry have executed an unparalleled influence in the Renaissance period throughout the entire Europe. No kine or kindred could stand in his light or his skill and there are rumors that he relapsed back into humanity - the only vampire that managed to renounce his nature through art. Needless to say, many Toreador have tried to pursue this road, but Michelangelo's example is something that no one could surpass.

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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2017, 09:21:51 PM »
Leonardo da Vinci



"There isn't enough time, never enough time" (in Italian) was in summery the Sabbat Regent's argument.
And so not long after this quandary; a new Tremere antitribu childe was brought into the world.
Of course, while the great da Vinci knew exactly what the Sabbat ethos of 'True Freedom' truly meant, it became clear to his peers he had reinterpreted it in some fashion.
Leonardo had created a 'freedom of the mind' philosophy which gained followers even attracting defectors from the Camarilla.
Da Vinci and his pack grew quickly, influencing the development of the Order of Reason effecting the technological development for the rest of the millennium.
Eventually this pack was destroyed by the Technocracy as the power of Vitae failed his Ghouls within the Technocratic Union, confessions in the final nights.
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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2017, 08:29:41 AM »
How about some Kuei? Confucius! ;)



Being a hungry spirit of great prominence, Confucious exerted a big influence on the culture and administration of the period. Ever since his humble beginnings and working in the public office, he sought perfection of spirit and ethics: this quest had been prolonged the instant he had risen from the grave: extremely powerful in the modern nights, he always manages to acquire all the resources for his mystical project, that is a secret that no soul knows about. In secrecy, he rivals the Giovanni; in efficiency he topples them. ;)

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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2017, 08:31:55 AM »
Leonardo da Vinci



"There isn't enough time, never enough time" (in Italian) was in summery the Sabbat Regent's argument.
And so not long after this quandary; a new Tremere antitribu childe was brought into the world.
Of course, while the great da Vinci knew exactly what the Sabbat ethos of 'True Freedom' truly meant, it became clear to his peers he had reinterpreted it in some fashion.
Leonardo had created a 'freedom of the mind' philosophy which gained followers even attracting defectors from the Camarilla.
Da Vinci and his pack grew quickly, influencing the development of the Order of Reason effecting the technological development for the rest of the millennium.
Eventually this pack was destroyed by the Technocracy as the power of Vitae failed his Ghouls within the Technocratic Union, confessions in the final nights.

Wow, you made this one perfectly. Congrats. ;)
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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2017, 03:05:17 PM »
How about some Kuei? Confucius! ;)



Being a hungry spirit of great prominence, Confucious exerted a big influence on the culture and administration of the period. Ever since his humble beginnings and working in the public office, he sought perfection of spirit and ethics: this quest had been prolonged the instant he had risen from the grave: extremely powerful in the modern nights, he always manages to acquire all the resources for his mystical project, that is a secret that no soul knows about. In secrecy, he rivals the Giovanni; in efficiency he topples them. ;)

Kuei-Jin, I was wondering if anybody was going to expand into the East, good job.
Also if anybody else wants to jump into this thread feel free.
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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2017, 06:10:33 PM »
We're greedy with this thread InTech. ;) Other kids don't want to play with us.
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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2017, 01:08:42 PM »
Next up, the most famous Assamite mistress, Cleopatra. ;)


At first I doubted should I classify her as a Toreador, since she was incredibly manipulative and dashing, but then came the third option of representing her as a Ventrue, only to adhere to the overall theme and pronounce her an Assamite. Cleo was seductive and capable beyond all measure in those turbulent times, balancing between the decadent Ptolomean leftovers and the growing power of Rome. Flirting and ultimately falling in love with the Ventrue idol, Caesar, she sealed her own fate - Assamites do not tolerate betrayal so easily.
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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2017, 10:52:01 PM »
T.E. Laurence

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Yes the Children persevere in these final nights and Laurence was sired by Kindred who'd followed him from Arabia, always in the background, always 'there' until he had an accident on his treasured vehicle.
As a Vampire Mr Laurence works for the Camarilla and uses his skills to act as a go-between for Anarchs and Camarilla embattled enclaves within Sabbat controlled territory, running disruption, resources and messages.

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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2017, 08:09:30 AM »
How 'bout "a little less conversation and more action"? ;)



The most famous Son of Discord that managed to survive the purge that ensued among the present Daughters of Cacophony clan. Nobody is certain how he did it though some attribute it to his famous charm that managed to sway many of the daughters to his side; this was proven by his stunning musical successes on open air where the discipline of Melpomine overtook his fans. Ultimately, Elvis met his final death in combat with a Sabbat hunting pack.
 
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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2018, 09:10:22 PM »
This is such a delightful thread, my applause to fellow members who participated in this.


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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2018, 10:12:01 AM »
Here's a tricky one: Nietzsche, whom I consider a true brujah philosopher warrior. Maybe he can fall into the Prometheans, but I will keep him tied to the above given philosopher "class" due his individuality. ;)



As a fresh visionary in his own right and time, he presented a new repertoire of thoughts regarding humankind and its ideals that had agitated both the Ventrue and Lasombra that consider themselves the upper echelons. Claiming that simple kine can attain a level in some field more easily than them (and be superior), left many of the "aristocratic kindred" dangerously annoyed. ;)

I really hate him (and Hegel) to consider them worthy to be True Brujahs, sorry :P

However....

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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2018, 05:38:08 AM »
Here's a tricky one: Nietzsche, whom I consider a true brujah philosopher warrior. Maybe he can fall into the Prometheans, but I will keep him tied to the above given philosopher "class" due his individuality. ;)



As a fresh visionary in his own right and time, he presented a new repertoire of thoughts regarding humankind and its ideals that had agitated both the Ventrue and Lasombra that consider themselves the upper echelons. Claiming that simple kine can attain a level in some field more easily than them (and be superior), left many of the "aristocratic kindred" dangerously annoyed. ;)

That sounds more Tzimisce than anything else to me, especially considering his biography. However, myself consider his ubermensch concept redunant, if there's nothing but an observer (and even an observer does not really exist), there is no need in extra entities. Roughly, an observer could be considered superior to everything else by definition, but even superiority concept itself is utterly redunant in this model. There's an observer (you) and observation (reality), the latter does not exist without an observer, consequently no one else exists to compare yourself against.

Speaking of True Brujah, I would suggest Herbert Wells (a social sci-fi author) as an example of the one instead.
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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2018, 08:14:12 PM »
Here's a tricky one: Nietzsche, whom I consider a true brujah philosopher warrior. Maybe he can fall into the Prometheans, but I will keep him tied to the above given philosopher "class" due his individuality. ;)



As a fresh visionary in his own right and time, he presented a new repertoire of thoughts regarding humankind and its ideals that had agitated both the Ventrue and Lasombra that consider themselves the upper echelons. Claiming that simple kine can attain a level in some field more easily than them (and be superior), left many of the "aristocratic kindred" dangerously annoyed. ;)

That sounds more Tzimisce than anything else to me, especially considering his biography. However, myself consider his ubermensch concept redunant, if there's nothing but an observer (and even an observer does not really exist), there is no need in extra entities. Roughly, an observer could be considered superior to everything else by definition, but even superiority concept itself is utterly redunant in this model. There's an observer (you) and observation (reality), the latter does not exist without an observer, consequently no one else exists to compare yourself against.

Speaking of True Brujah, I would suggest Herbert Wells (a social sci-fi author) as an example of the one instead.

It would be morbid to see him as a Tsimisze... crafting an ubermensch, now that is an intriguing idea, albeit being slightly an unsettling one.
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Re: Famous Authors as VTM clans and (brief) History
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2018, 02:53:51 PM »
It would be morbid to see him as a Tsimisze... crafting an ubermensch, now that is an intriguing idea, albeit being slightly an unsettling one.

Nietzsche could very well represent the philosophical side of the Tzimisce clan, the everlasting desire to ascend to a higher state of being. Vicissitude as a discipline deals primarily with the flesh, but it also changes the spirit and the thought patterns.