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Title: Anime sucks
Post by: deicide on January 17, 2019, 11:39:46 AM
Am I the only one who considers the most of it a tedious rehash of Western works or ideas originated from Western culture, often degenerated into a purposeful mockery by authors?

Some examples:
Lelouch (Code geAss) = Emo prince LaCroix, complete with Dominate abuse. The series itself is pretty much a Bloodlines ripoff with melodrama instead of an actual politics.
Sora (Yosuga no Sora) = Emo Alex Wesker (Resident Evil) = Western "Aryan scientist" archetype. Japanese devil alone knows whatever she have forgotten in a borderline hentai title.
...

Ironically enough, The Illusive Man (Mass Effect 2) is a payback Lelouch ripoff (plus reverse TSM from X-Files), well done if compared to the latter. They took back what was rightfully ours.
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: Barabbah on January 17, 2019, 01:16:54 PM
(https://dl9fvu4r30qs1.cloudfront.net/e3/24/a13cd12e42018a6185071fc99f4b/miyazaki-otaki-680.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: deicide on January 17, 2019, 01:39:19 PM
Nah, otaku (aka anime/manga fans) aren't cancerous, at least. Wapanese, that's real trouble.
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: Barabbah on January 18, 2019, 02:35:26 AM
Or brownies emo/goth lolita....
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: deicide on January 18, 2019, 04:20:24 AM
I meant Japanese wannabes aka Kuei-Jin ending, not subculture members or fans. Japanese goths aren't exactly Western wannabes either.
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: Barabbah on January 18, 2019, 06:26:59 AM
I was saying goth bronies are as bad as wapaneses
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: deicide on January 18, 2019, 12:36:04 PM
Ah, got it. Curiously enough, they does not seem to have a slang/slur word for the reverse of Wapanese. Not that they have less illusions, guess this sort of thing isn't tolerated in Japanese society, which is notoriously conformist.

On topic, not that the genre itself sucks, not worse than any other, it's so saturated that one could watch through ~100 titles and not hit anything remotely decent that has any individuality, not to say original, even once. The most of it is the same old song over and over, a cheap form of escapism for bored to death people who are trapped inside an inescapable life circle of Japanese society. Yet another brand of fake drugs not dissimilar to religion.

Being an anime fan in Japan is considered to be a sign of loser, and judging from its amount, 99.9999...% of Japanese are losers.
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: Barabbah on January 18, 2019, 01:13:58 PM
We want to talk about the creepy stuff of anime culture? I'll start: Dakimakura https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dakimakura-body-pillow?full=1 (https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/dakimakura-body-pillow?full=1)
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: deicide on January 18, 2019, 02:09:49 PM
Wasn't it a Western thing originally? Not worse than pillows with Disney characters.
Not Japanese, but K-pop is quite a something that worse than yaoi, it's a streamlined version of Western Teen pop, like it needed any further streamlining. I suppose it would qualify as a creepy Eastern stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQGRg8XBnB4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQGRg8XBnB4)
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: Barabbah on January 18, 2019, 05:45:24 PM
"If japanese pop music is j-pop what is chinese rap?" (cit.)
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: deicide on January 18, 2019, 06:17:10 PM
Have you listened to this k-stuff? Myself could not tolerate more than a minute, and that comes from a person who watched Boku no Pico and found it funny. It's a yaoi anime from Satan's personal collection, so beyond perverted that it's impossible to take it seriously.
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: Barabbah on January 18, 2019, 10:21:00 PM
Have you listened to this k-stuff?

(https://i.imgur.com/zxl58Pv_d.jpg)

Seriously, I'm too scared
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: Highwayman667 on April 07, 2019, 10:47:36 PM
There's a lot of shitty anime out there.

No one would say Evangelion was a bad series though, and that's barely even the tip of the iceberg.
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: MooCHa on April 08, 2019, 12:21:30 AM
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/240/283/7c0.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: Barabbah on April 08, 2019, 02:48:38 AM
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/240/283/7c0.jpg)

Anime fan(boy)dom in a nutshell
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: Highwayman667 on April 08, 2019, 07:16:16 AM
Funny, if a tad mean.
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: Barabbah on April 08, 2019, 07:18:56 AM
I want to make it clear I mean only the fan-boy-dom and not the whole fandom :P
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: deicide on April 08, 2019, 12:06:19 PM
There's a lot of shitty anime out there.

No one would say Evangelion was a bad series though, and that's barely even the tip of the iceberg.
Once one watched through a few 90's classics it remans very little, even non-mainstream that does not always have an English translation. One should be a trve anime fan who learnt Japanese in order to unearth anything decent among such a load. I'm amazed how little plot it there in the genre that puts a plot over drawing quality.
To add insult to an injury, a few topics are either taboo in Japanese society or completely unexplored for other reasons. Or explored, but there's not a single title where it was done seriously, be it anime, manga or visual novel.

Guess it's all about target audience and economics.
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: El_Gostro on April 08, 2019, 02:24:53 PM
Still waiting for premium cyril waifu pillow :pixorstfu:
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: MooCHa on April 08, 2019, 10:42:00 PM
Still waiting for premium cyril waifu pillow :pixorstfu:

Yeah, I could see me pushing some women face into the pillow while banging here shouting bow to the Cyril Bitch :)


(https://img.memecdn.com/rmx-goku-talks-about-naruto_o_263981.jpg)
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: Barabbah on April 08, 2019, 11:22:55 PM
While goku and naruto are building up an attack in 23 episodes without anything else happening, he had already wasted countless robots to the point of being covered from head to feets of oil

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71LhbqnAAVL._RI_.jpg)

This just to say I'm not impressed with their pointless crap :razz:
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: MooCHa on April 09, 2019, 12:39:17 AM
I use to watch Samurai Jack way back in the 00's with my Son when he was Young. Around the time this Bloodlines first come out. It could've been before to be fair.

Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: Highwayman667 on April 10, 2019, 02:53:39 AM
I don't know, I'm not the biggest anime fan out there but it's sort of low-hanging fruit to go after the genre. Specially when videogames, movies and even series suffer from similar issues.
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: deicide on April 10, 2019, 03:33:05 AM
Almost every genre has these problems, still anime has them to far greater extent. The ratio of decent anime to time suckers. Comparable absolute value of the first, orders of magnitude higher total amount.
Say, there's 1000 works in some symbolic genre, 9 of them are of any good.
In symbolic anime, that will be 100000 works, and again, 9 of them are good.
To take it farther, even decent titles mostly contain usual idealized everyday Japanese life fillers and such.

It's definitely harder and more time-consuming to find anything of interest among anime than movies and videogames. Another problem, the audience is used to it and considers normal, so reviews, recommendations and questions are useless. Use the force Luke.

To be fair, I have started this thread after an unsuccessful attempt to find an anime to watch, which resulted in five-six hours of wasted time.
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: MooCHa on April 10, 2019, 06:56:18 PM
^^

Deicide, One Anime that caught my eye quite a long time ago that I haven't watched beyond the first episode was called Wolf's Rain. I had forgot all about it until today.

It could be worth a nosey if you haven't had a look at it yet. Dub trailer for ease.

Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: El_Gostro on April 10, 2019, 09:50:47 PM
Remember that one was on that animuh channel way back when I still inhabited my old younger haunts!

It was kinda mopey emoey, apparently wolves weren't cool so they were represented by choker wearing angsty teens with best selling AliExpress fashion sets who somehow were the critters.
And there was an old feller with a mustache and a dog that hunted them because they ate his chickens before he could sell them to the Gundam army or something...
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: MooCHa on April 10, 2019, 11:37:55 PM
^^ Sound like I dodged a bullet then judging from your write up, Sir Gostro.
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: El_Gostro on April 10, 2019, 11:43:15 PM
Don't take my word for much value, mate!
I did laugh my ass off at the first few issues/toons of Ranma 1/2 and kind of liked Trigun after all!
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: deicide on April 11, 2019, 12:32:19 AM
And so opinions divided. No point in watching trailers - Code Geass seemed to be decent until the second episode, for example. Thanks dudes, it seems there's only one way to find out...
Title: Re: Anime sucks
Post by: MooCHa on April 11, 2019, 01:01:25 AM
I watched Kabaneri of the iron fortress up to episode 5 so far a few weeks back. It's kind of steampunk zombie type anime.

http://watchcartoon.co/watch/kabaneri-of-the-iron-fortress-episode-1-english-dubbed/