collapse

Author Topic: Differences between oWod and nWod  (Read 5711 times)

Offline Swiftshadows

  • Fledgling
  • *
  • Posts: 1
Differences between oWod and nWod
« on: June 16, 2011, 09:55:40 PM »
Hello.I'm a new member on this board and to WoD as well.Living in Romania didn't give me a chance to get into it harder as there are no PnP conventions or games i heard of.I recently read most of the novels of oWod as well some of the new ones.Ill start getting the rule books as well.
I was wondering if there's any information about how the creatures in nWoD especially vampires appeared.Is it still Cain and Antideluvians or there is no info at all.Sorry if my question is dumb  :facepalm:

Offline _username

  • Got Stront?
  • Antediluvian
  • *****
  • Posts: 6732
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2011, 10:47:06 PM »
LUNA NOBIS PROVIDET

Offline Rick Gentle

  • Gangrel Playboy
  • Antediluvian
  • *****
  • Posts: 3057
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2011, 11:11:33 PM »
Just a quick question - how'd you like Clannovel: Tzimisce?

Short run-down: Vampires in NWoD claim several different origin stories - each sect has their own founding legend. The Lancea Sanctum claims that Longinus, the Roman soldier who stabbed Jesus Christ, was the first vampire and blessed/cursed by God. The Circle of the Crone has a dozen different origin stories, depending on which coven you ask, but they generally go for the "evil mother/genetrix" figure. The Ordo Dracul hasn't gotten that far back yet, I don't think, but obviously Dracula was a huge, game-changing influence on their way of life, so he takes the place of the founder-figure.

Ignorance is a much heavier theme in Requiem than it is even in Masquerade, so don't be surprised if no character can actually answer these fundamental questions. It's really a lot of guesswork and leaps of logic even for vampires.
Remember: It's not the size of your fangs that matters; it's what you stick them in.

Offline Palp

  • Fledgling
  • *
  • Posts: 37
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2011, 01:23:56 AM »
Actually as for Longinus he is not seen as the first vampire at all, just the founder of the Lancea Sanctum, and that his creation was different from most. As for an origin for vampirism, what we see is that humans seem to have changed into vampires without the influence of other vampires at several points in history, how many is unknown (three examples is known, Dracula, Longinus and the creation of the Julii). Making the concept of one origin incorrect.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2011, 01:27:31 AM by Palp »

Offline Rick Gentle

  • Gangrel Playboy
  • Antediluvian
  • *****
  • Posts: 3057
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2011, 10:22:38 AM »
Palp is correct; I forgot about the Camarilla group in pre-Christian Rome. The Invictus are also supposed to trace their roots sometime back then, if I recall correctly.
Remember: It's not the size of your fangs that matters; it's what you stick them in.

Offline _username

  • Got Stront?
  • Antediluvian
  • *****
  • Posts: 6732
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2011, 03:33:28 AM »
Gah!  I'm so behind the power curve.  The only NWoD novel I've read is A Hunger Like Fire.
LUNA NOBIS PROVIDET

Offline Radical21

  • Antediluvian
  • *****
  • Posts: 3023
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2011, 03:48:30 AM »
The Rest of them are not that Great from what I heard.
The Third book in the Requiem novel series is by the same Author and also not bad, still not as good as A Hunger Like Fire IMO.

Offline Rick Gentle

  • Gangrel Playboy
  • Antediluvian
  • *****
  • Posts: 3057
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2011, 05:37:26 AM »
Didn't they only make three?  >.>
Remember: It's not the size of your fangs that matters; it's what you stick them in.

Offline Radical21

  • Antediluvian
  • *****
  • Posts: 3023
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2011, 12:16:43 PM »
Didn't they only make three?  >.>

No >.>

There is also Three Shades of Night, the first NWoD novel.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2011, 12:28:03 PM by Radical21 »

Offline Rick Gentle

  • Gangrel Playboy
  • Antediluvian
  • *****
  • Posts: 3057
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2011, 08:47:07 AM »
Never ever heard of it. I have The Marriage of Virtue and Viciousness, Blood In, Blood Out, and A Hunger Like Fire.
Remember: It's not the size of your fangs that matters; it's what you stick them in.


Offline _username

  • Got Stront?
  • Antediluvian
  • *****
  • Posts: 6732
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2011, 06:13:47 PM »
Or just wait a few years for Sony Pictures to make a rip-off movie version of it.
LUNA NOBIS PROVIDET

Offline Aydoo

  • Antediluvian
  • *****
  • Posts: 1055
    • Aydoodle
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2011, 09:15:13 PM »
I picked that one up from a used bookstore here for about 3$. Hadn't actually have time to read it. I did like the other NWoD novels though, despite not likeing the setting at all.

Offline Radical21

  • Antediluvian
  • *****
  • Posts: 3023
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2011, 09:20:53 PM »
They don't deal too much with the settings, at least not in the historical sense(All that Requiem for rome stuff), so I thought they were good and the characters were interesting, its the only reason I was willing to try VTR after reading them.

Offline _username

  • Got Stront?
  • Antediluvian
  • *****
  • Posts: 6732
Re: Differences between oWod and nWod
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2011, 01:43:43 AM »
It's true, that the VtR novels seem to be much more self-contained than VtM novels.  That is, you can be a complete WoD newb and still appreciate the story.  Many of the oWoD novels practically required that the readers be well versed in not just the setting, but sometimes even the game mechanics.

Some were better about that than others.  Beyond the Shroud (the only Wraith novel) was a standalone story that did a good job of being a story in its own right, rather than just a vehicle for expanding the pnp game.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2011, 01:45:37 AM by _username »
LUNA NOBIS PROVIDET