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Re: Best and Worst
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2008, 12:01:00 AM »
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    eh...
     
     we're pretty sure masquerade is dead and just never was. integrating the two... would be... lame.
     

     
     White Wolf has publicly stated that the nWoD and oWoD have no relation what-so-ever.                        

     

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #16 on: February 27, 2008, 01:06:00 AM »
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  •                 Yeah, the old familiar names are nothing but new concepts fit in old clothes. They are however completely different. Tremere are in mage: the awakening not in vampire: the requiem. Just really diferent things so I don't believe they'll merge anything other than reusing the terms with new definations.                        

     

                                                      

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #17 on: February 27, 2008, 04:04:00 AM »
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    Howie1979 posted:
    Tremere are in mage: the awakening not in vampire: the requiem.
     

     
     Eh?                        

     

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #18 on: February 27, 2008, 05:10:00 AM »
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  •                 Why did they make the Tremere unplayable and apparently the stuff of legends in Requiem? Doesn't White Wolf know that some people (myself in particular) think that the Tremere are "the shit"?                        

     

                                                      

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #19 on: February 27, 2008, 05:44:00 AM »
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    Dark666Prophet posted:
    Why did they make the Tremere unplayable and apparently the stuff of legends in Requiem? Doesn't White Wolf know that some people (myself in particular) think that the Tremere are "the shit"?
     

     
     The idea was that they wanted Mages to be Mages, and Vampires to be Vampires. Cross-breeds between the game-lines were mostly non-existent (aside from the odd abombination), and they're just perfecting that stance a bit.
     
     Thaumaturgy was also quite overpowered.                        

     

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #20 on: February 27, 2008, 07:20:00 AM »
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    Offkorn posted:
    Thaumaturgy was also quite overpowered.
    amen.                        

     

                                                      

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #21 on: February 27, 2008, 02:03:00 PM »
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  •                 Ah, well, if it's anything like in Redemption, then yeah it is. I beat that game, and the Thaumaturgy Disciplines were ridiculously overpowered.                        

     

                                                      

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #22 on: February 28, 2008, 01:07:00 AM »
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    Dark666Prophet posted:
    Ah, well, if it's anything like in Redemption, then yeah it is. I beat that game, and the Thaumaturgy Disciplines were ridiculously overpowered.
     

     Imagine that, but in the hands of some emo teenage wanker who thinks that the purpose of the LARP is to pwn the other characters, or at least do everything he can to make sure they all know how badass he is...err, how badass his character is.  Thaum contributed 10 headaches for every 1 plot hook.                        

     

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #23 on: February 28, 2008, 10:40:00 PM »
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  •                 In fact I quite like the idea of blood magi, thaumaturgy is overpowered, hell all disciplines are overpowered in a sense.
     
     When you worry about this perhaps take a look at the back of each revised books there's a line "For mature minds only". Exploding e-peen with thaumaturgy doesn't seem to be quite matured to me, so perhaps the storyteller should take some times to talk to the player.                        

     

                                                      

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #24 on: February 29, 2008, 03:17:00 AM »
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     Imagine that, but in the hands of some emo teenage wanker who thinks that the purpose of the LARP is to pwn the other characters, or at least do everything he can to make sure they all know how badass he is...err, how badass his character is. Thaum contributed 10 headaches for every 1 plot hook.
     

     
     This is what scares me about the MMO, though. Even though the characters (presumably) won't be over-powered as Thaumaturgy is gone, there will undoubtedly be hordes of the aforementioned ass-hats who would love nothing more than to challenge your character to a duel constantly.
     
     So where do vampires come from in the nWoD? I heard that Hunters don't even have a story yet or something like that on Wikipedia. What gives? Does White Wolf just release little bits and pieces of what's supposed to be an entire world every few weeks/months to keep cash flowing in or what?                        

     

                                                      

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #25 on: February 29, 2008, 08:54:00 AM »
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  •                 The Idea is that Kindred like Mankind dont know for sure where they all came from and there are alot of stories the character can choose to believe to or dismiss.
     Like Masquerade at it start, it looks like white wolf are going to slowly introduce more content into Vampire The Requiem.
     
     Also if you read Vampire the Requiem it puts alot more wight on how competative the society of the damned is and how kindred are always at eachothers throats so its no wonder many players approach the gameplay interaction with a pissing contest in mind.
     
     PS: its amusing to see how now there is some new Horror MMO caller 'Requiem' which has nothing to do with all of it.                        

     

                                                      

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #26 on: February 29, 2008, 09:15:00 AM »
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    Dark666Prophet posted:
    So where do vampires come from in the nWoD? I heard that Hunters don't even have a story yet or something like that on Wikipedia. What gives? Does White Wolf just release little bits and pieces of what's supposed to be an entire world every few weeks/months to keep cash flowing in or what?

     
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    Radical21 posted:
    Also its amusing to see how now there is some new Horror MMO caller 'Requiem' which has nothing to do with all of it.
     

     
     There are quite a few games with 'Requiem' in their titles, as the word Requiem actually has a meaning all on its own. The new MMO's main title is Requiem, while the nWoD's Vampire segment has Requiem as its sub-title...I would not call their names similar.                        

     

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #27 on: February 29, 2008, 09:20:00 AM »
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  •                 Yes I thought the coincidence comes more from it being a new Horror based MMO that is also named Requiem.                        

     

                                                      

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #28 on: February 29, 2008, 09:35:00 AM »
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    Yes I thought the coincidence comes more from it being a new Horror based MMO that is also named Requiem.
     

     
     It's named Requiem because it fits with its themes. Chances are very high that this was in development before or shortly after the nWoD appeared.
     
     The races, skills, and gameplay are nothing at all like Vampire. The name is the only minor similarity, and that's simply coincidence. You think anyone in the PC gaming industry gives two shits about what WW makes? Their track record has not exactly been riddled with success, and their MMO is 5+ years off.
     
     No, there is nothing questionable going on with Bloodymare's name in regards to Vampire.                        

     

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    Re: Best and Worst
    « Reply #29 on: March 01, 2008, 03:40:00 AM »
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  •                 I definitely agree with Offkorn on this one.  The MMO development cycle is 2 years minimum, even for a Korean company, as is the case with Requiem.  5 years is closer to reality.  There's just no way that they knew about World of Darkness Online -- which was just announced 16 months ago -- when they set about designing the Requiem MMO.                        

     

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