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Offline [archive] Miyo34949332

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2006, 11:43:00 PM »
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 will you posting a synopsis similar to that of family business?
 
 can we choose clans if we wish?                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2006, 12:00:00 AM »
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 Synopsis? My English isn't nearly as good as I make it out to be so do explain.
 
 And explain what you mean by that clanthing. People can be anything they ever could be and the various clan stereotypes can be applied to any character. I did say that my initial character in this story was "Malkavian" IE, vamp with a head full of fishbowl. Not so kooky, though. More like traumatised and brooding, reliving the moment that broke him constantly. But by clan I guess you mean the traditional sense with cause and effect? A society within the society, clanmates feeling a certain bond and somesuch. Power born from seperate bloodlines. My original idea was based on Bram Stoker's Dracula but I ended up using some VtM Disciplines out of sense of familiarity.
 
 I think I need more details on what you're asking...                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2006, 12:37:00 AM »
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 what i ment was precicly that, are there clans like in vtm or, as you have said, is it more like dracula... there are just vampires, and we can create our charactors as we see fit, and so if you want a character that could be discribed as a malkavian, then you play a character that is a malkavian, but not... less restricing, but yes, i think you answerd my question.
 
 a synopsis is a short ecplination of what IS.
 the first post of the disscuation thread for family business is an example.
 
 i hope im makeing sence (ive been lossing the ability to speak english over the last year... i think its the way ive been looking at language... and my lerning another, sorry)                        

 

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2006, 01:42:00 AM »
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arathalion posted:

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 what i ment was precicly that, are there clans like in vtm or, as you have said, is it more like dracula... there are just vampires, and we can create our charactors as we see fit, and so if you want a character that could be discribed as a malkavian, then you play a character that is a malkavian, but not... less restricing, but yes, i think you answerd my question.
 
 a synopsis is a short ecplination of what IS.
 the first post of the disscuation thread for family business is an example.
 
 i hope im makeing sence (ive been lossing the ability to speak english over the last year... i think its the way ive been looking at language... and my lerning another, sorry)

 
 Like Dracula, yes. They're "just" vampires but most clannish molds can be applied if needed to suit the mood. Some basic allround powers too but I think we should discuss that when it's time. Depends on the players and right now, I think I need to see more enthusiasm from the crowd before I actually do something. I'd hate to end up with only one player...
 
 Well I hardly ever kickstart stories. I think a lot before posting things and yes, you'll know what you need to know after a few intro posts so no worries there. Actually, I might write too much and make it incoherent but that's what the discussion thread is for!
 
 And don't worry about the English. I understand perfectly.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2006, 02:01:00 AM »
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 well, i count 3 so far.
 
 and i must say i really like this idea... might go read dracula again actually... all this talk about him everywhere *grins*                        

 

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2006, 02:04:00 AM »
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 i guess i was wondering how the story would work especially with respect towards the politics between clans and all that mumbo jumbo                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2006, 02:12:00 AM »
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 ever read any other vampire litrature?
 
 its basically works the way WoD works only without the pretence of clans. just meens you have to find another excuse to run a wooden stake through someone and take of there head.
                       

 

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2006, 06:59:00 AM »
                In WoD, you can have any Nature or Demeanor you want, regardless of clan. Derangements and Disciplines are not restricted to clan. Many vampires develop psychosis, regardless of clan. The misnomer is that Derangements are restricted to Malkavians. Anyone from any clan can develop a derangement. Same with Disciplines. One may learn any Discipline they want regardless of clan. In fact, it is very common to have 4 or more Disciplines if you are over a century old.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2006, 07:26:00 AM »
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 there is alot more than that to what deffines a clan, such as politics. only malkavians can enter the malkavian madness network (hence malkavian insight).
 
 also sterio types do ristrict your character some what. whilst it is possible to have a character that is completely acceptable to clan sterio types, you have to be able to come up with a way to tie the character to the clan.
 
 it all verry much depends on the story teller, and personally i like the idea.                        

 

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2006, 10:07:00 AM »
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arathalion posted:

 also sterio types do ristrict your character some what. whilst it is possible to have a character that is completely acceptable to clan sterio types, you have to be able to come up with a way to tie the character to the clan.

 
 No you don't. Not if you don't want to. Even tight-knit clans  have their loners. It is called being an autarkis, one who is of the clan's blood, but outside its political structure.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2006, 10:14:00 AM »
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 yes you can, but still there has to be a reason as to there embrace... i didnt say the tie to the clan had to perpetually exist, it could verry well have been severed. but still, they are raritys and i think we are straying a bit.                        

 

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2006, 11:45:00 AM »
                Sounds right up my alley. I think it's a good idea especially for those who don't have so much WoD knowledge, but know enough to be able to roleplay a convincing vampire character, with their own elements thrown in to make it more tangible.
 
 3's a good number to start with. If there's too large a number for starters, it might be difficult to work out.                        

 

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2006, 11:57:00 AM »
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Miyo posted:

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 i guess i was wondering how the story would work especially with respect towards the politics between clans and all that mumbo jumbo

 
 Human existence is defined by a concious effort to gain and abuse power for personal gain. As such, vampiric politics do exist in "my" world too. However, with the absence of actual sect opposition, clan rivalry and the overall rarity of vampires in general, it's a bit different.
 
 Basically, if you're old enough, you're expected to know enough not to fuck up and "safe" cities that have been secured are generally ruled by an Elder Council with their own internal bickering and their own guidelines for their undead citizens based on experience. They usually also have mortal contacts in high positions to ensure safety like the chief of police, mayor and such.
 
 Feel free to ask anything that I didn't explain. I'm happy to help in any way I can to make things understandable.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2006, 12:51:00 PM »
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 ah hell cl, if u build it, ill check it out.                        

 

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Re: Thinking here
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2006, 08:41:00 PM »
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Crazy-Legs posted:

 Basically, if you're old enough, you're expected to know enough not to fuck up and "safe" cities that have been secured are generally ruled by an Elder Council with their own internal bickering and their own guidelines for their undead citizens based on experience. They usually also have mortal contacts in high positions to ensure safety like the chief of police, mayor and such.

 
 Sounds identical to a Primogen without a Prince.
 
 You have to remember that it is human nature, and even moreso vampire nature, to be violent, want strong leadership, and horde power for themselves. Cultures have always had some sort of a single, unifying head: a king, emperor, Prince, etc. even if the position is weak and manipulated by a more powerful council.