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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2007, 01:42:00 PM »
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 To answer your questions:
 
 1. I'm actually going to what Az set before us. His character mentioned infiltrating Constantine's place - and I am assuming this is the same Constantine as TDP. Unless Az argues otherwise, then yes, I will say that our story takes place BEFORE TDP.
 
 2. To be honest I have only delved into TMA, and that was sometime ago...I never could finish the entire game ('cause I'm a hopelessly stupid Thief LOL), but I have played some levels with the golden robots. I don't recall an automated golem...only the cherub-faced ones, and the small robotic ones that walk around on legs. My hunch is that we'll have to leave the Mechanists entirely out of our story for the time being.
 
 3. This is where we probably will have to stretch our knowledge of the Thief universe a bit. To make the story more interesting we might have to insert some "creativity" and get the Hammerites to play a larger role than they otherwise seem to do in TDP or prior to that.
 
 4. We definitely need the Pagans...and don't forget if this is pre-TDP, then there is a lot of room for the herald of the Trickster. We can run amok with our ideas.
 
 Now if Az can explain his using Constantine, maybe we'll get a better grasp of the timeframe.
 
 Hey AZ! Stop playin' TDS and get your ass into TDP and TMA!! LOL
                       

 

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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2007, 04:57:00 PM »
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 ive never played TDP, so im sort of running semi-blind if thats the era we're set in. I picked constantine becuase he seemed perfect for robbing, i dont know much about the man other than he has interests in non-clerical magic, which could make for some fun. and i CANT stop playing TDS until i get to shawbridge cradle and get too scared to go on, plus the other two costs moneys, and i just bought Redemption on amazon, so i havent got them presently.
 
 and i cant imagine oyur convo with lucius taking more than 12 minutes val, just do a juxtaposition and come outside before we're late.                        

 

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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2007, 05:19:00 PM »
               
Azrael il Toreador posted:

 I picked constantine becuase he seemed perfect for robbing, i dont know much about the man

 
 Ack! Then we have a problem. Constantine is... eh, I don't want to spoil it for you, in case you'll play TDP eventually. But he IS a major, major player. Flying blind with this character will be difficult.
 
 We could alter the setting of course, we're playing our own game, but... dunno. I'm stumped. Von?
 
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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2007, 05:30:00 PM »
                More sketchies we be wantins Master o The L to the A Powers!                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2007, 11:13:00 PM »
                Eeeh....*thinks hard* Okay. After I wrote my post last night, I went off and thought about it. For convenience's sake (and poor Az's sanity) we'll have no choice at this point but to make the setting POST TDP & TMA. You could say it's slight after TDS.
 
 *reads the main story thread* The problem is, we're so far in now..I'm not sure how we're going to alter it without everyone editing their posts.
 
 Things to note at this point:
 
 1. After the events of TDP & TMA, bearing in mind that the Trickster is not completely banished...I'm tempted to make a re-appearance...
 
 2. For Az's sake, we will include elements of TDS in our story. The question now is to decide the exact timeframe, since AFTER TDS....well....the City ain't the same anymore.
 
 Tell ya what, guys...let's carry on with using "Constantine", but here's the plan: Once we set foot into the job, we discover that it's a second Constantine...it may have another name, I'm not sure at this point, we can play along and see how it wraps up..
 
 Tell me what you guys think please. I need help!
 
                       

 

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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2007, 01:04:00 AM »
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 or...*gods forbit* we make this...how you say...non-canon!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!                        

 

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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2007, 01:14:00 AM »
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 Non-canon is a little difficult...er..Thief I feel is unlike WoD which you can bend the rules a little. Wow..I wish I was better at this, we seem to be stuck here.
 
 I think the bottom liine is, we can be as creative as we want but we need to keep the factions in the picture, the Keepers, the Pagans, the Hammers and Mechanists...come to think of it it's a lot like WoD.. .                        

 

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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2007, 01:17:00 AM »
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 make it....after metal age, shortly before DS....i still want keepers to have keeper powers...
                       

 

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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2007, 01:23:00 AM »
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 *ponders* Thanks for clearing that up. Ok, shortly before DS then. La, you ok with it?                        

 

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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2007, 06:53:00 AM »
               
Azrael il Toreador posted:

 or...*gods forbit* we make this...how you say...non-canon!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 
 Heh, heh. Smartass.
 
 Ok, here's the thing, you probably guessed this yourself already, but Constantine is actually the Trickster himself. So, as Garett said in the cutscene before the last mission in TDP "...I've never stolen from a GOD before."
 
 Hence me making this big fuss over using Constantine, what with him being the Pagans' god. The way TDP tells it, no thief before Garett ever (successfully) broke into his home...
 
 So, onto something constructive - here are my propositions:
 
 1. We use Constantine regardless of the above, and just omit the part of him being a god, making him just a crazed Pagan priest, druid or, uh, something. Still mad, just not this allfreakinpowerful.
 
 2. We expand the scenario - instead of going to Constantine right away, make a detour for a thief who tried breaking in there (and failed, but lives to tell the tale). I've sort of got his figured out, I'll have Lucius bounce this idea off you in a moment.
 
 3. Change of plans. One of the three could have info on something even bigger going down tonight (and tonight only), which would justify not going after Constantine. I know it's a lame solution, but it still is A solution.
 
 I'm going to have Lucius tag along with you guys either way, cuz he'll get bored standing around in that shop of his. Or I'll get him a pinball machine. Whichever works.
 
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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2007, 09:03:00 AM »
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 Your proposals are interesting.
 
 
La posted:
1. We use Constantine regardless of the above, and just omit the part of him being a god, making him just a crazed Pagan priest, druid or, uh, something. Still mad, just not this allfreakinpowerful.

 
 On hindsight, did you realize Az never specifically implied that we were going to meet him? Although the implication is that we are going to sneak into his mansion, Az never mentioned if Constantine (and i mean the Trickster) was even alive. He could have been dead and gone, but his insane asylum of a mansion could still exist on this plane. So TECHNICALLY, we can use "Constantine" as a referral more than actually turning him into a living, breathing, major plot villain.
 
 

2. We expand the scenario - instead of going to Constantine right away, make a detour for a thief who tried breaking in there (and failed, but lives to tell the tale). I've sort of got his figured out, I'll have Lucius bounce this idea off you in a moment.

 
 Plausible, plausible. I can already see Fade's annoyance showing LOL! 'Twould make an interesting path in the story.
 
 

3. Change of plans. One of the three could have info on something even bigger going down tonight (and tonight only), which would justify not going after Constantine. I know it's a lame solution, but it still is A solution.

 
 I'm thinking this is also a plausible approach, which would mean whatever has happened from the inn encounter (Fade + Crox) up to the point down at Lucius' shop, is all just a prelude to the bigger portion of the cheese.
 
 I'd give it a green light, so Az & La, you can both take your positions and let the scene unfold as you best see fit.
                       

 

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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2007, 01:13:00 PM »
                Ok, I said "in a moment" but I had to take care of something.
 
 Anyway, post is up. That's my proposition, assuming we join up, whether we go about Constantine's house or not, breaking into the prison will give us something to do, plus Garrett had already done it, and Fade's supposed to know him. So, while I'd vote to not bring Garrett into the story, Fade could know his way around breaking into Cragscleft from Garrett.
 
 Makes sense to you?
 
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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2007, 01:22:00 PM »
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 NOW WE'RE TALKIN BUSINESS!
 
 Nice one you pulled back there in the story thread, La! I almost laughed out loud as I read Lucius' last sentencw! Ahhh...brings back memories...
 
 *gets out the popcorn and soda waiting for Az*                        

 

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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2007, 11:06:00 PM »
                is someone else gonna do somthing, or what? cause i can BS like OJ on this one if i have to...                        

 

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Re: Thief fanfic In The Shadow of the City - Discussion
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2007, 12:00:00 AM »
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 Ok...we might have to hand this scene to La since he's going to take us to his friend...hang in there, Az.                        

 

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