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Offline Radical21

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Interest check for New Sci-fi Vampire IP Roleplay.
« on: October 24, 2015, 05:00:07 AM »
Recently Nigama restarted the Tokyo by Night and there is a feeling that Winter is coming.

Since there is still a need to develop a community Vampire RP IP I think one approach to do that might be accomplished as a byproduct of actual RP. Lately I'm kind of in the sci-fi mode(Inspired by No-man's sky , Star Citizen, Mars discoveries and cool 3d hard-surface designs) so I thought about using near-future Science fiction as a way to come up with a new vampire IP:

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Introduction
The Year is 2027:
7 months and 15 days have passed since You've first arrived for training aboard the international construction platform orbiting earth, not far from the orbital positioning of the third ISS. You are one of the 50 civilian astronauts that would take part Global Space Industries(GSI) ambitious project: The Mars Colonization Initiative.   

For a long time the MCI project was held in great skepticism, from being called an investment scam or misguided waste of money. Today the project has finally been completed and the preparations of the large modular space vessel code-named 'Red Dragon' are rapidly underway towards an early launch.

Down on Earth things are getting more desperate, A large comet-like object entered the solar system some years ago and though it is advancing at an abnormally slow speed only 2 years remain until it is scheduled to collide with the earth.

Although there are other space-vessels and missiles that are making ready , GSI extended 'Red Dragon's' mission to  investigate and stop the Comet if possible before resuming its intended mission.

Spoiler for Hiden:
In short something about that mission is about to go terribly wrong and as result of the encounter your character would transform into a (non-WoD) Vampire


The guidelines of Science fiction writing(speculative writing) in this instance are as follows:
-Base stuff on science where possible
-Speculate about stuff that could hypothetically exist or have existed without violating too many universal laws
-Try to make things feel more realistic than surreal where possible
-If you do use Occult/Paranormal stuff try to think about how it might actually work if it was something real.
-No godlike powers
-Designs have something that makes sense rather than being a random assortment of stuff.

Examples of inspiring Sci-fi TV shows or VG : Mass Effect, Fringe, Stargate SG-1/Universe, Deus Ex, Metal Gear Solid, Dark Matter, Gravity, KSP etc

For the rest I'd rather not give too many rules : Just try to avoid stuff that feel too mary sue/marty stu or godlike. and mix in Vampire and Horror.

Character Creation:
For starter character creation at this point just think of a Human character( for the sake of starting out you can use V20's to describe the character) , Also if you want you can think of a power it would eventually gain (for example Invisibility, Super Strength , Super Speed etc etc) .

I'm not saying its the only power they would ever have but for start I don't intend to go too crazy.


So feel free to comment and post below if you are interested in starting this.



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Re: Interest check for New Sci-fi Vampire IP Roleplay.
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2015, 01:47:30 AM »
Well, before I get into my reply, lemme first say that I googled "Space Vampires" to see what the human mind has already created on this topic. Actually, more than I expected, but the majority of it not so great. But then I stumbled on this awesomeness: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindsight_(Watts_novel)

How the fuck have I not read that yet and its sequel? And from all accounts the vampire in it seems badass and the first novel ends with vampires wiping out baseline humanity on Earth. So. Good. I def need to read it and if you hadn't posted this then I would never have found this book, so many thanks.

However, several things.

One thing. I'm not so into the space stuffs and feel rather inundated with it right now for the exact same reasons you are into it right now (because of all the games you list and also Elite:Dangerous).  I want like our reality, very realistic, but with another layer over it. Gothic Punk/Darkness for the WoD, but you could do the same with personal horror for a werewolf game (not a WoD werewolf game) or a slightly fantastic overlay for Superheroes/villains. This is almost a second thing, but I worry that a bunch of vampires on a spaceship could get kindof fantasy-ish and less realistic very quickly, despite the push for hard science.

Second thing. If I'm inspired by the plot and characters of Blindsight at all, I almost feel like I'd rather be playing something like Eclipse Phase where a vampire character could mix with other transhumans, cyborgs, AI, robots, etc. Just seems more interesting of a game, but then also runs into the same problem as above (getting too over the top fantasy instead of based in reality).

Third thing. I'm still down to play it, though, as I support your efforts to create a fan made original vampire IP. I should have the time since I'll be checking in to Tokyo by Night anyway and it'd be easier to react as a player than plan all of the NPCs actions.

Fourth thing. The idea had crossed my mind of trying to start a modern nights campaign based on the vampire lineages we'd created in the origins thread to show that it could work even when the lineages were based on such disparate origin stories themselves. Think it over, bossanova.


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Last thing. I really like the sound of that book and it turns out Blindsight is also this, which adds an amazing other level to the book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindsight 
« Last Edit: October 25, 2015, 02:32:25 AM by Nigama »
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Re: Interest check for New Sci-fi Vampire IP Roleplay.
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2015, 05:48:24 AM »
Yeah I'd be surprised if no one attempted it, I know that there was a sci-fish WoD chronicle once.

(because of all the games you list and also Elite:Dangerous).

I intentionally left Elite:dangerous out because for all its features, its design and game-play feel somewhat empty or uninspiring to me.
But yeah I get what you are saying.

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One thing. I'm not so into the space stuffs and feel rather inundated with it right now for the exact same reasons you are into it right now (because of all the games you list and also Elite:Dangerous).  I want like our reality, very realistic, but with another layer over it. Gothic Punk/Darkness for the WoD, but you could do the same with personal horror for a werewolf game (not a WoD werewolf game) or a slightly fantastic overlay for Superheroes/villains. This is almost a second thing, but I worry that a bunch of vampires on a spaceship could get kindof fantasy-ish and less realistic very quickly, despite the push for hard science.
Yeah that could escalate if you allow too many fantasy elements into it, I intend to do it more realistic using science but you are right, the space part is unnecessary.   I'd be willing to do something closer to our present-day earthly reality also as a base but in that case I will probably postpone the History Research for later(since the point was to avoid it) .

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I almost feel like I'd rather be playing something like Eclipse Phase where a vampire character could mix with other transhumans, cyborgs, AI, robots, etc. Just seems more interesting of a game, but then also runs into the same problem as above (getting too over the top fantasy instead of based in reality).
This is something I'd rather avoid: Because of the reasons you say and also because mixing stuff like that can end up with something that feels too trippy for my taste.
Also on that same note i'd say that when I was running my previous Vampire chronicles there were people who wanted to play exotic stuff (Daywalkers, Gargoyles, Abominations etc) I'd rather avoid these over the top concepts also because I think they have very little world building value due to their problems in interacting with others in the same settings.
I think that if we make a Vampire IP its more creative if everyone start as Vampire and build on top of that to maintain balance and more realistic causality.
Which is my issue with the Origin project.

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Third thing. I'm still down to play it, though, as I support your efforts to create a fan made original vampire IP. I should have the time since I'll be checking in to Tokyo by Night anyway and it'd be easier to react as a player than plan all of the NPCs actions
I'm cool ditching the Mars-One meets Deus Ex setting and go for something more "Modern night" if everyone are ok with me not spending hours digging through history on Wikipedia and going for what I know and writing in a fictional city.

The main goal I intend for is to develop characters and from that extrapolate their traits, bloodline etc to eventually arrive at a more realistic/honest IP.

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Re: Interest check for New Sci-fi Vampire IP Roleplay.
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2015, 06:25:59 PM »
Hmm. Yeah, that was the initial idea for the Origin Project, as well, but we couldn't get enough people together to play/run it. Thus why we did it the way we did it, creating just the origin stories ourselves. As per your thoughts on the modern Planet Vampire game, Golem would just be vampires that were tough in the modern nights, not true golems. I suppose the Nekros could be dialed back a bit, giving them corporeal forms... I'm not married to any of the ideas there, tbh, just wanted to prove that you could run a modern nights campaign with those lineages as a template.
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Re: Interest check for New Sci-fi Vampire IP Roleplay.
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2015, 07:23:46 PM »
I kind of want to experiment with the idea of basing powers and traits on the personality/mannerism of a character...that way the result is less whimsical.
For example take someone from this forum, what kind of supernatural creature do you think they would be and what powers do you think they would have and what flaws, assuming it is an extension of their base personality.

I think there was a thread like that about what supernatural power you would want if you could have one.. but its probably different because everyone wants what they don't have.

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Re: Interest check for New Sci-fi Vampire IP Roleplay.
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2015, 01:43:45 PM »
I did this a few times as a young person with my friends. Instead of playing any system or setting, we'd just play ourselves and then something would happen to us and we'd gain weird powers, pretty much whatever we wanted we'd get. The one that was about superheroes I ended up with a character who could use Darkness as a weapon (Darkforce). Then there was another, much weirder one where we sucked into another world and it turned out numbers were powerful. So just writing numbers on the inside of your clothes or on your skin could protect you. Clocks were important. Formulas could lead to more complicated magic. That was a lot of fun, too, and only ended when the only one of us who wasn't powerful or enjoying the world found a way to send everyone back to the real world without any powers.
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Re: Interest check for New Sci-fi Vampire IP Roleplay.
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2015, 08:17:27 PM »
If balanced this method could really work, but for now no one else is replying to this topic.

 

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