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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Signothorn on December 02, 2006, 08:09:00 AM
                You are vampires in the coastal town of Hawkport.
 
 The town has a relatively small population of vampires but most of them have met on occation exept for the new arrivals from the other towns in the area, driven to relocate for various reasons. Those who live here have survived in their supernatural form for some time now (I'd say anything from a few months to a number of decades) and they know why. Humans fear what they do not understand and they hate what they fear. Because of this, rules of survival has become common knowledge. Basically you do not endanger the existance of your fellow vampires with your actions. No one wants to be seen on the news for feeding in public for example.
 
 As vampires, you are set above mortals in many ways.
 
 1. You have unnatural strength. You might be able to lift a man by his throat but lifting a car over your shoulders is impossible.
 
 2. You can heal yourselves by redirecting the blood stored in your body. Regeneration. It's not an instant full heal and will take time. Usually one night or more for slashing wounds, gunshots and broken bones. In the case of lost limbs a week will work fine.
 
 3. The Dark Gifts. All vampires carry bloodborn gifts of a mystical origin. These include a limited measure of mind reading and control. Animals are easier to read because of their simple minds. Some have been known to turn this power to devestating ends by unlocking the subconcious of their victims, twisting them to insanity. More often by accident than by effort.
 You also have a mesmerising ability that manipulates the emotions of the victim, making deception (and seduction) all the more easy. Those aware of it might resist, though...
 Alternative powers can be discussed.
 
 Naturally, these abilities don't come easily and should never be taken for granted. Those capable of these feats have learned them through deliberate effort and I'd like to know the reasons behind your particular powers (if any).
 
 4. You can also create Ghouls by feeding a living creature some of your blood. Ghouling a human is generally looked down upon since they become a liability fast. The blood becomes like a drug to them and they crave it. Sometimes to a dangerous degree. Careless masters have found themselves victims of assault or even crimes of passion by their servants. The Ghouls generally mean well. It's just that their craving turns into an obsession and most cannot be considered "sane" by society's standards. They often adopt vampiric mannerisms and consume lives (like bugs) in an effort to sustain themselves. Submissive to the point of self harm and fanatic to their last breath, Ghouls require a lot of control and responsibility.
 The upside of Ghouling something is that it creates a bond of loyalty. A servant or bodyguard during the day. It also keeps the creature alive much like the vampiric condition but left without blood, the Ghoul will turn back into normal and revert to it's natural age, possibly killing it.
 
 5. On top of Ghouling, one can also create another vampire by draining the human dry and feeding the body a few drops of vampiric blood. This must be performed while the victim is still alive. A corpse will not reanimate even though the vampire technically dies a clinical death during it's following transformation. This is normally restriced since many shun the responsibility it brings. Depending on the rulers of the city in question that the maker lives in, it may be entirely forbidden on penalty of death due to population control. In Hawkport, the population is relatively low but each new arrival must be recorded before transformation.
 Some still do it out of need, companionship or even love.
 
 6. Feeding is handled pretty much the same way as vanilla VtM with the euphoria and woundlicking. Enjoy that kinky stuff, you little beasts!
 
 Of course, there are downsides.
 Sunlight burns your skin badly and will kill you almost instantly.
 Piercing the heart will induce a deathlike sleep that can be "cured" by removing the object that caused the injury.
 You must also feed regularly. Every night, some of the blood you've ingested will be used to sustain your existance and without it, you will shrivel up, become more and more corpselike and weak and eventually mummify. Reverting this is nearly impossible and you are effectively considered dead by vampiric society.
 And eternal life gives a certain detachment. The young still think and act like humans but the older vampires have likely seen too much and become jaded, regarding humans as little more than cattle and a nessecary evil.
 
 You have lived in this city for some time now and you are familiar with it's streets. You have most likely establised an identity to hide your natures from the mortals be it late night security guard, drug dealer, club owner or reclusive author. Others might be simple drifters. In any case, you know where you are and how to survive.
 
 The city consists of the Downtown area, housing the local police station, a few bars and questionable clubs. The Winston Discrict, named after a prominent local political figure houses most of the more fortunate individuals in the city, the local mall and the bank. The district mirrors its affluent inhabitants with expensive architecture, hotels and the Lucky Dog casino. A recently renovated building with a darker history than its shiny exterior will admit.
 Then comes the Old Town. Pretty much a slum these days but still contributes to the city since it also acts as the industrial area with it's various factories and storehouses. Most of it is run down and in a state of unforgivable disrepair. It also holds the only remaining entrance to the old subway system. Seemingly empty, the tunnels still house some life being a safe haven for the homeless. A solution carved from the ground by themselves when the city decided to ignore and forget.
 Finally there's the pier. What Downtown spits out ends up here. Some people live on their boats. Others live on the beach. Some don't live at all...
 
 Before the arrival of the vampires, Hawkport was a Mafia city capitalising on the ban on alcohol through the smuggling in the docks. When the bloodsuckers arrived, their connections to the outside drew away the mortal predators of the city, leaving the city in a broken state. With its mortal rulers gone, the city has been a sinking ship, a headless snake ever since the late 30's.
 It is now more riddled with more crime and corruption than ever before and the few legit officers of the police department are little more than mice fighting a lion.
 The vampires on the other hand thrive in this enviroment, manipulating humanity to serve their needs.
 The current council consists of Nathan Brown, former mafia advisor, Angelica Priest, Ivan Vasilyev and Julius Shepherd. Internal conflicts in later years have caused their power to deminish and some call them detached and out of touch. Talk about a coming change of power is heavy in the nighttime air and all that is needed now is a catalyst.
 
 Recently, a newly turned vampire refused to accept the gift and commited suicide by facing the sun. Unfortunatly, this event was witnessed by mortal bystanders and while their accounts of the event have been brushed off as lies and insane ranting by the general public, it has attracted the attention of the enemy. Vampire hunters have come to the city and no one is safe. Covering up their kills and moving from city to city, these soldiers of the Church attempt to hunt the vampires to extinction. Will you allow this to happen here?
 
 Questions and details will be worked out as we go along. We'll discuss the personality and backgrounds of your characters and set the scene.
 
 If you swallowed the bait I'd like your character sheets to look something like this:
 
 Name:
 Gender:
 Age:
 Appearance: (Including defining features and clothing.)
 Possessions: (Think fancy car, apartment and so on.)
 Personality:
 History:
 
 Do excuse if it seems full of holes. I've rewritten most of my old material and I haven't slept at all tonight so my brain is elsewhere.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on December 02, 2006, 11:00:00 AM
                Excellent.
 
 I have a question though - I want to start off as a Kine, perhaps one of the innocent bystanders who witnessed this accident.
 
 I figured it would make an interesting contrast seeing as how it's likely everyone else will begin as Kindred. I also thought it would add some interest to the plot if my Kine character somehow ended up serving as a Ghoul, or simply turned into Kindred by one of our players.
 
 what do you guys think?
 
 If the idea is difficult, then I'm happy to start off as Kindred if that makes it easier for everyone.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 02, 2006, 06:46:00 PM
                In Reply To #2
 
 Depends on you, really. It might be fun but (there's always a but) you'd have to be willing to start entirely from scratch with the persona and roleplay the transition accordingly. The initial shock from being transformed and accepting this new life and a general depandancy toward your new "parent" even as the hunters start stirring up trouble. Being a Ghoul requires a different mindset too. You'll change a lot. Even the toughest gang mebmer becomes a meek servant who lives to serve (and eat bugs).
 The idea isn't difficult if you can make it easy. It's up to you. Good luck.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on December 03, 2006, 06:19:00 AM
                In Reply To #1
 
 Name: Mei
 Gender: Female
 Age: 23 (human years) 3-4 (vampire years)
 
 Appearance: Of Asian descent. Straight jet black hair down to the back of shoulder-blades, dark brown eyes. Slightly above average height, compact body. Well-formed limbs. A little more physically fit than your average girl. Most distinguishing facial features are a pair of full lips, naturally rosy even without lipstick, and a healthy slight flush of the cheeks. Usually seen in a baby T-shirt, worn blue jeans and a pair of scuffy sneakers. Favors woolen turtlenecks on colder days. Possesses a golden tattoo of a serpent from the top of her spine, all the way down to the small of her back, where the serpent's tail end touches the cleft of her buttocks. Even in dim light, the tattoo shimmers with a mystical aura, not least due to the gold ink.
 
 Possessions: Lives alone in a small, average one-roomed flat overlooking Downtown. Does not own any mode of transport. Her possessions are few, indicating her income level. The apartment is simply but tastefully furnished with scattered cushions and beaded curtains dividing the living space from the kitchen. The smell of musky incense always lingers heavily in the air, and a small rosewood altar stands along one wall, upon which sits a carved image of an erect cobra, lit around by a dozen candles. Evidence of her love for gardening is found in the small planters lining the tiny balcony, where yellow and white roses bloom abundantly despite the lack of sunlight. Her only weapon is a small dagger, often concealed somewhere about her person. It has a silver hilt and scabbard featuring a snake coiled around it, and its blade honed to chilling sharpness.
 
 Personality: Quiet, reserved, often appearing aloof. She cares more than she lets on, favoring action over words.
 
 History: Mei was born Chng Mei Lan, 1 March 1983 in Shanghai, China. At the age of six, her family, along with her grandmother, immigrated to Hawkport in search of a better life. They made their way to the small Chinatown district of the coastal town, where her parents set up a laundry shop. Young Mei, as she was fondly called by her grandmother, spent most of her childhood playing with other immigrant children along the streets. For the better part of her afternoons, however, she would help her grandmother in her herbal remedies shop, often running small errands such as delivering Grandmother's potions to clientele. Most of the family money went towards Mei's education. After classes, she would head to Grandmother's store and resume her errands, often spending the nights finishing her homework in the shop while Grandmother rested upstairs.
 
 One evening, a stranger appeared, enquiring about a special potion he insisted that only her grandmother could offer. Mei tried to turn him away, as far as she knew in all her life spent with Grandmother, she never dispensed remedies utilising such formulas. Most of her medicine were made from herbs and small marine-life, and the harder Mei tried to turn him away, the louder their argument became, until Mei lost her temper and pushed him into a wall. The man's eyes glowed with a scarlet light, and as his mouth opened in a feral smile, he uttered the words that Mei would never forget: "Because of your foolishness, child...your Grandmother will never again see the dawn, and neither will you." So saying, he launched himself at her.
 
 Mei awoke on the floor of the shop several hours later. As the events of the evening rushed back to her, she ran upstairs to find her grandmother cold and lifeless on her pallet. What was more horrifying were the changes in the young girl's body; her flesh had lost its human glow, and she felt an overwhelming urge to feed. Before she knew what she was doing, Mei had leapt upon the still figure of her grandmother, and drained the blood within.
 
 Horrified, repulsed and confused at what she had done, Mei stole back into her own room, grabbing some clothes and raiding the old biscuit tin where her parents kept some money for a rainy day. She ran and ran, never knowing where she ended up, not caring. Eventually she found herself at the docks, where she spent herself crying.
 
 Estranged from the only family she ever knew, Mei had no choice but to find herself shelter for the time being. For the next half a year, she occupied a small corner of an abandoned warehouse. Realizing she needed money if she was to get out of this decrepit hole, the sixteen year old tried looking for work at several eateries, but none were willing to take her in. Out of sheer desperation, Mei relented when a "talent scout" approached her at a street corner one night, offering her work that would pay well if she was obedient to the rules. She was soon to discover that the rules included pleasing every client that came into the place she worked at, and that she was never to remove the leather collar around her neck. Training was provided for every new employee, as a way of ensuring quality control, and with her exotic looks, Mei was soon tucking away tips amounting to $1000 at least twice each night.
 
 Despite her apparent success, there was never a night that Mei would not cry herself to sleep when daylight approached. By then she had resigned herself to the fact that she was something unnatural, a creature of the night. She fed only when necessary, though she was never lacking nourishment given the nature of her job. She also knew how dangerously she wielded life and death, after almost killing a client by draining him, to fill her belly and sate her anger when he had violated her one time too many.
 
 Gradually, it occurred to Mei that not only could she conceal her fangs by will, but that tiny indents had formed at each tip. When she was hungry, she would taste a bitter liquid that leaked from her fangs. It was later, when she tried to save a blind man from a street thug, that she discovered she was immune to the poisonous liquid, but that others were not.
 
 At twenty-one, Mei was turned out of the club when she threatened a client with her knife after he promised to insert a burning candle in her nether regions. By then she had enough to purchase a small flat in the heart of town, and opened a tattoo parlour some distance away. Her services soon grew to be popular, for Mei's tattoos were infused with a concoction of herbs to soothe away daily stresses, even if only in small amounts, and for an exclusive price, a customer could ask for his or her tattoo to be infused with gold or silver dust.
 
 While she has carved a name for herself and lives in relative solitary peace, Mei's soul is forever tormented by the events surrounding her grandmother and the mysterious stranger those many years ago.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 03, 2006, 07:12:00 AM
                In Reply To #4
 hmmm, now i need to come up with another character... give me some time to think after my head stops throbing and ill do it, but i have some questions.
 
 1)what is your position on vampire banes (running what and what not)
 2)if i lose a limb, can i reattach it in a night or do i have to regrow it over a week?
                       

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 03, 2006, 10:52:00 AM
                In Reply To #4
 
 I'll read through it thoroughly in a while. I've been sleeping all day again and I can't think to save my life.
 
 (later)
 
 Well your vampiric "parent" made you without permission so the rest of the community wouldn't know about your existence. You'd probably have to change the backstory to include a meeting with a fellow vampire to know that you're not alone and an official "registration" with the Council. Could have happened anytime. Take your pick.
 
 I don't know what use you'd have for the snakebite Dark Gift thing but you might have some idea. I don't know where it'd come from, though. Any suggestions? Some exotic bloodline? I did state that the usual clansystem isn't in place but there are a whole bunch of vampire myths around.
 It's not worthy to be called a problem, really but give it some thought.
 
 In Reply To #5
 
 1. Banes as in spirits or banes as in vampiric weaknesses?
 
 2. Think Quinn from the movie Blade. He loses his arm serveral times over the course of the story and it grows back. I took my inspiration from that. Removed limbs evaporate into ash so there's nothing to reattach.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on December 03, 2006, 11:24:00 AM
                You got an ouroboros in yer pic leggies!                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 03, 2006, 08:47:00 PM
                In Reply To #6
 like running water, garlic, holy water, crosses & faith... im assuming that silver is lupines only                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 03, 2006, 10:15:00 PM
                In Reply To #8
 
 A stake in the ticker turns you into a veggie.
 That goes for stabbings and gunshots too provided that they hit that precious organ. Hunters would use fire to prevent proper regeneration too and chopping off the head kills pretty much anything that isn't a cocroach.
 
 As for silver, that has applied to vampires for longer than any werewolf. With this being based on "classic" vampirism, I could go for most classic harmful stuff but I'm not going to use anything people won't want.
 I'm willing to use holy symbols/water and possibly silver if others allow it. Otherwise we could just use the basics in the upper paragraph. It's all good.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on December 03, 2006, 11:14:00 PM
                In Reply To #6
 
Crazy-Legs posted:

 Well your vampiric "parent" made you without permission so the rest of the community wouldn't know about your existence. You'd probably have to change the backstory to include a meeting with a fellow vampire to know that you're not alone and an official "registration" with the Council. Could have happened anytime. Take your pick.

 
 I don't get what you mean by this. If I chose not to include my "registration" in my biography, is it all that significant? I left the later part of the transformation and afterwards a little vague, as part of maintaining an aura of mystery around my figure. Take my pick? That's what I picked. Or would you rather I included it, seeing as how you've already brought the issue up?
 
 

I don't know what use you'd have for the snakebite Dark Gift thing but you might have some idea. I don't know where it'd come from, though. Any suggestions? Some exotic bloodline? I did state that the usual clansystem isn't in place but there are a whole bunch of vampire myths around.
 It's not worthy to be called a problem, really but give it some thought.

 
 Your template for our characters did not include a "Clan type". I assumed that you left this out in the open for our creativity in our characters. I was under the impression that you're allowing a lot more freedom in this, than say, the Vamp Club or any other WoD RP session. I don't know what I'd categorise my character as, and I actually do not wish to do so - otherwise it'll just end up like WoD/Bloodlines where everyone is locked in a certain clan.  I'm pretty sure the gift of poison in very handy in eliminating human enemies...and as yet, there may be further developments to my character that indicate just how lethal her poison is. If you noticed, I kept my story quite open to the end. Bearing in mind too that Mei was turned vampire not so long ago. There is a lot of potential for her to grow, and I left it that way as well. Whether or not I choose to further develop her is up to me.
                       

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 03, 2006, 11:49:00 PM
                ((Dare I enter? ah what the hell. my fisrt attempt at being anything but a toreador-esque kind of vampire. tell me what you guys think))
 
 Name: Antonio Fabiano
 
 Gender: Male
 
 Age: human age 31, blood age 74
 
 Gifts: due to the nature of his work, Tony is gifted with super-human speed and reflexes, as well as stealth skills bordering on literal invisibilty. people will literally look right at him and not even notice hes there if he wishes it. this gift has no effect on cameras or other forms of survailence however.
 
 Appearance: Italian decent. Large roman nose, short dark brown hair, dark eyes, ready smile. Handsome. Not slight of build, nor particularly buff,but fit. average height and weight.  Usually wears well cut but dark colored suits, Armani or the like.  
 
 Possessions:Well appointed apartment in the Winston Dist.(provided by council). Various firearms, vintage an modern (most commonly a pair of nickel plated baretta 9mm, a 9 in. k-bar, and an antique but heavily modified Thompson A1 sub-machine gun. tools of the trade). A black lamborghini (also provided by council). Tony needs nothing else. ((im sort of like a sheriff, if you didnt guess))
 
 Personality: Cold, quiet, and efficient. Charming when he wants to be, some rare outbursts of tremendous violence. Gentleman death in a suit and tie. some things never change.
 
 History: Working for peanuts as a mob hitman has its perks. Free food wherever I went, all my wants and expenses taken care of, fear, respect, all i could ever want. Sure it was a dangerous living, but thats why i loved it right? Yeah, life was good. Until the sent me after her.
          I had never seen anyone so...perfect. Enough to make a vicious bastard like me cry. I approached her at the bar, we spoke, i bought her a drink, we danced, i kissed her, and we went to her room. i shut the door quietly behind me. she had stepped out on the balcony. so beautiful. so...delicate. It broke my heart, what i had to do. I walked out to her, took her in my arms. she was shaking. i asked her "whats the matter, doll?" she smiled, told me they were after her. she was scared. I told her it would be all right, told her, id protect her, kissed her and held her tighter. then, bang.
          I dropped the gun, and held her as she fell. she looked into my eyes, not confused, or hurt, not afraid...just sad. I held her till her eyes closed. then got up and fixed myslef a drink. quiet. it was so quiet. i downed it in a single gulp. then i heard a noise. i started to turn, blackness.
          I woke up on the bed. she was in the chair. smiling, laughing at me. said, "now you can protect me forever" i was scared, i felt...strange, then she told me. a vampire. a fucking vampire. i laughed. she was joking. her, me , vampires? imsane. "This is 1931 babe", i said. " the dark ages are over." she laughed at me. such a beautiful laugh. then i started to feel it. the thirst. boiling, screaming inside me. i asked her what shed done to me. she said she already told me. I got mad, madder than id ever been. i grabbed her. she was so light. i slammed her head into the wall, and she screamed. i slammed her and slammed her until she went limp, then i threw her off the balcony. she burst into flames on the way down. i cried then, i think, maybe i was just bleeding. i ran and ran until i was in some alley with a bum in my mouth, struggling as i drank him dry.
          I went on for nights and nights, maybe a month, confused, angry...then i met another. beat me over the head. i woke up in a dark room. "nathan, we thought you were dead". "I am dead tony, i am." and thats how it started. i was gentleman death again. only now i was with a different outfit, stronger, better funded. eternal. ill never get used to that. I'm immortal. I'll live forever. And i hate myself.
 
 [added Dec  3 2006  7:10PM]
 
 ((lol the whole time i was writing that i was thinking about those old film noir scenes in movies, and josh hartnets character in Sin City))                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on December 04, 2006, 12:13:00 AM
                Omigod...I think your story just made me cry...                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 04, 2006, 12:15:00 AM
                In Reply To #12
 
 really?                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 04, 2006, 12:21:00 AM
                In Reply To #10
 
Valoris posted:

 I don't get what you mean by this. If I chose not to include my "registration" in my biography, is it all that significant? I left the later part of the transformation and afterwards a little vague, as part of maintaining an aura of mystery around my figure. Take my pick? That's what I picked. Or would you rather I included it, seeing as how you've already brought the issue up?
 </quote>
 
 Well "unsanctioned" vampires are bound to pop up everywhere and I'd guess that leaving out the introduction to mainstream vampiric society would cause the Council to consider your character something of a mutt but maybe you wanted to have that independence? It's not that important. Just a detail.
 
 <quote by="Valoris">
 Your template for our characters did not include a "Clan type". I assumed that you left this out in the open for our creativity in our characters. I was under the impression that you're allowing a lot more freedom in this, than say, the Vamp Club or any other WoD RP session. I don't know what I'd categorise my character as, and I actually do not wish to do so - otherwise it'll just end up like WoD/Bloodlines where everyone is locked in a certain clan.  I'm pretty sure the gift of poison in very handy in eliminating human enemies...and as yet, there may be further developments to my character that indicate just how lethal her poison is. If you noticed, I kept my story quite open to the end. Bearing in mind too that Mei was turned vampire not so long ago. There is a lot of potential for her to grow, and I left it that way as well. Whether or not I choose to further develop her is up to me.
 

 
 Earlier I wrote about the basic setup of gifts that tend to manifest based on books and stuff I've been reading and while that's the safest setup to go with in term of recognition (think Dominate, Auspex, Presence) to be nice to those used to VtM vampirism, I don't mind some creativity. I was just juggling some ideas around, checking if you had something special in mind.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on December 04, 2006, 12:25:00 AM
                In Reply To #14
 
 Yep, I'd guessed we were going to use the basic Disciplines (Auspex, etc) as a sort of template for our behaviours. I never intended to overwrite that at all. But I thought to include additional stuff, things that aren't even vampire canon, but close enough to add some pizzazz to the usual bite-n-feed. I don't own any books on WoD or vampires, so I'm writing stories as I go along. I'm not an uber-player, and I don't believe in giving my characters abilities that are too ridiculous. Unless of course the DM/Storyteller has a problem with it.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 04, 2006, 12:30:00 AM
                In Reply To #11
 
 Yes. Very Sin City there with an ironic twist.
 The Council will have a lot of fun with that one...
 
 In Reply To #15
 
 I'm not much of a player either. Hell, I'm not much of a writer. I just want to have fun. Don't worry about it.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 04, 2006, 12:30:00 AM
                In Reply To #16
 
 so are you the council or what? becuase whoever the concil is is the one i take orders from...                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 04, 2006, 12:37:00 AM
                In Reply To #17
 
Azrael il Toreador posted:

 In Reply To #16
 
 so are you the council or what? becuase whoever the concil is is the one i take orders from...

 
 The Council is composed of NPC's that I'll be controlling. For the most part, that is. They have motives of their own.
 I'll participate too as one of the "peasants" because I like writing stories. Right now I'm weighing my options of recreating my old character because he's been such a labour of love and recycling that material with medium to heavy rewriting since I kind of messed up earlier or just making a new one. It's a matter of the mindset...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 04, 2006, 12:42:00 AM
                In Reply To #18
 
 well then im your attack dog then. sort of like the sheriff if this were vtm. that cool?                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 04, 2006, 12:58:00 AM
                In Reply To #19
 
 You are Mr. Brown's Vasilyev's Shepherd's and lovely Ms. Priest's attack dog, yes. That would work nicely.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 04, 2006, 01:01:00 AM
                In Reply To #20
 
 yay. when do you make the actual thread? i want to open it up with an assassination.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 04, 2006, 01:06:00 AM
                In Reply To #21
 
 I need arathalion to post the character sheet first.
 The first post and those that follow tied to the story will likely be rewrites (I did say I was "moving" the story) of the originals so those won't take long to set up. I'll still have to think about what to write, though. It won't be too long.
                       

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 04, 2006, 01:45:00 AM
                In Reply To #22
 well, here is something
 
 name: Elizabeth something (whats a good english name)?
 
 gender: f
 
 age: 57
 
 appearance: Elizabeth appears... young... even though she was embraced at 24 people still mistake her for a 17 year old... until they get a close look at her face. not something people normally get to do.she is short and her thick brown hair quite frequently falls out beside her face so you can only see it from in front.
 Elizabeth tends not to dress to impress. she often affects a long black skirt or blue jeans. and several layers of shirts, and probably a jumper or a jacket. her shoes vary.
 
 possessions: Elizabeth lives alone in a large building on the outskirts of the old town, the other side of the old town from the city, in a house that looks like it could collapse at any minute... indeed the outer part could.
 She has craftily reinforced the inner walls and roof of one of the small apartments inside the dilapidated complex. Her actuall living quarters consist of a bathroom, a kitchen, a living room and a couple of bedrooms, one of which she has converted into a kind of study, the other she uses as a bedroom... however, the bathroom is the only room that isnt filled with books.
 for the most part, the house is secure, buy locks and other mundane means... and by superstition on the part of the homeless. no one is ever been scene leaving... The building is believed to be haunted, and everyone that thinks about entering... really doesnt want to. (there should be a better way to say this)
 
 personality: Always quite, Elizabeth isnt a particularly social creature. she does what she needs to do, but doesnt know how to act around people... or she knows how to act but doesnt feel comfortable. she has never like being the center of attention and as such wishes to go unnoticed most of the time. people can be quite surprised by her sudden appearance in places when she says something... in fact most people forget she is there.
 
 history:
 "That building... NO, you do NOT want to go in there... keven was went in there 4 years ago... um, no, i didnt see him enter, but he was going to... he had been talking about it for weeks, how he would prove it wasnt haunted... no, never seen anything in there myself, but then you cant see ghosts... well, at night sometimes, you can hear someone sining a sorrowful song, or a violin playing a sad tune. well, its only ever soft...
 
 the ghost, no but bill swears he saw a girl leave there one time. he had sat up every night for a week waiting to see someone leave. says it was a girl, the one that got killed in a drive by right after being arrested for her friends murder... I think its stupid. why would she haunt that building, she was to young to have ever known it and i say she would be haunting the grave where she was buried, remember those cultists... the ones that where performing satanic rituals in the cemetery, burning the bodies of the dead... hers was one that was desiccated... i heard that they found  a silver neckless that she had been buried with in the fire!"
 
 Powers: Because she has spent her life (and unlife) not wanting to be noticed. humans generally dont, and can get quite scared when it suddenly clicks in there brains that she is standing in front of them speaking to them. even then they are likely to forget her. this effect is not powerful enough to work on older vampires, and only works partially on young ones.
 
 well CL. is that alright. or would you have me change something.
 
 and i have another question. Does a vampire have to be invited into a house, or can they enter uninvited?
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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 04, 2006, 02:02:00 AM
                In Reply To #23
 
 persoanlly i find the ida of a vampire having to be invited itno a house romantic...hell i wont enter a house un-invited myself...                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 04, 2006, 02:15:00 AM
                In Reply To #23
 
 Sweet Stalin, that's a lot of text! I'll read it soon.
 I just have to get some needles in me first...
 
 If Miyo wants in, I want a bio too. And from anyone else with the slightest shred of interest. Wooh.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 04, 2006, 02:20:00 AM
                In Reply To #25
 i was trying to keep it short.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 04, 2006, 03:44:00 AM
                In Reply To #26
 
 I'm having problems reading the backstory. Would you split it up in paragraphs so that I and others can have an easier time reading it? I'm not sure I can fully comprehend what you're trying to tell me if you don't.
 
 One detail, though:
 Elizabeth can't go around killing random intruders like that.
 Antonio would be forced to pay her a quick and messy visit...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 04, 2006, 03:56:00 AM
                In Reply To #27
 
 sorry, open office is taking its time to compile and so i wrote it in vi. so the paragraphs where extra messy when i copied it for some reason.
 sorry for the way i wrote it, i was trying to keep the size down. (im not talking about paragraphs)
 
 
 tzimisce? well thats different.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 04, 2006, 05:41:00 PM
                In Reply To #27
 
Crazy-Legs posted:

 In Reply To #26
 
 One detail, though:
 Elizabeth can't go around killing random intruders like that.
 Antonio would be forced to pay her a quick and messy visit...

 
 Emphasis on the quick, im nothing if not efficient...
 
 [added Dec  4 2006 12:59PM]
 
 In Reply To #23
 arith...some incontinutites...the council would've sent me after your sire, had he been marked...so maybe you would like ot edit that...im no elder afterall, and i dont consider 31 middle aged....i can picture it though...im sent to inform you that your sire had broken the laws in turning you, he maked but ou can be spared..yes...it could work...think about it.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 04, 2006, 08:52:00 PM
                In Reply To #29
 grumbles at edit button
 
 i could do that, but then whould you look after elizabeth?
 
 1, im sure your not there only hitman
 2, i was thinking about some personal business between elders.
 3, its all part of the game. just because you want someone dead, doesnt mean that you will send the hitman, even if you are able and have reason. perhaps there was some other reason he did it.
 
 im not so concerned with you killing stuff, or staking speople and let me rip them to shreds... oh i was also going to ask cl if i could drink my sire dry... its more, hmm what happens to elizabeth? i think that if the councle had sent you the would have just had you kill me aswell. so yeah
 what do you think cl?                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 04, 2006, 08:58:00 PM
                In Reply To #30
 
 your story just doesnt make much sense. why kill your friend and embrace you for no real reason after barely even meeting you? why would you hate him for that? why would an elder just up and kill him? What did he do to merit that? if it were a real crime, why didnt they send me (yes im the only hit-man, or at least the best)? all your killing indescriminatly like c-l said woulve brought the councils wrath down on you by now as well...it just doesnt hold together.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 04, 2006, 09:14:00 PM
                In Reply To #31
 im not saying anything about your skill there...
 
 and i never said anything about the crimes of my sire. like i said it could be a very personal thing.
 
 "why kill your friend and embrace you for no real reason after barely even meeting you?" sorry, i think that was lost in my trying to keep it short.... this is all unknown... i was hopping about using elizabeths sire as a character through the slights of other vampires when she meets them, remember she is nt to poplar.
 back story is always more fun when it starts coming out in the middle of a story... that and i was trying to keep it short.
 
 "ll your killing indiscriminately"... i thought i fixed that... hold on
 
 dude, she killed to people in the story. cl was complaining about my leaveing homeless peoples bodies around. no one would care if they dissapeared... cept the other homeless... and there just to scared.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 04, 2006, 09:19:00 PM
                In Reply To #32
 
 
 well you know theres appropriately vauge and then theres incoherently disjointed...im not trying to insult you im only saying your history is sort of hard to understand and the situations in it arent really probable....                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 04, 2006, 09:36:00 PM
                In Reply To #33
 yeah sorry... i can re write it when ive got a bit more time... but it will be a few pages...
                       

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 04, 2006, 09:43:00 PM
                In Reply To #34
 
 we dont need the complete biography! look at my history for example. its barely 4 paragraphs, but it gets the point across, no?                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 04, 2006, 10:05:00 PM
                In Reply To #35
 mkay, fixed                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 05, 2006, 02:48:00 AM
                In Reply To #23
 
 I see there has been some infighting here.
 While it's an interesting idea to keep things secret, I'd prefer if these secrets are doublechecked with me so they won't affect the story too much. Your history right now is a bit vague and I don't know what you have in mind.
 
 I'm not implying that you should make things up as you go along but it would be nice to know enough to understand your character and her motives. What I have now is a quiet vampire with a history hinting as something traumatic in the past.
 
 And I'm not sure about Miyo. Are you still out there?
 Scared you off, did I? Oh well... we can't have everything.
 Let me know, though. I could probably squeese you in after starting if you're hesitating but if you're sure wether or not you want to be a part of this, I'd like to know beforehand.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 05, 2006, 03:18:00 AM
                In Reply To #37
 Well, she got a little traumatized by her childhood, she is now reclusive. then she ran away from all the attention her musical talents got her. she became closeish with mary, who was then killed, and she was framed for it, having blood all over her hands and what not, then she got gunned down.
 she ran away from her sire after he picked her up and then ended up finding jason, the one she just started to get along with, and panicked and killed him. she is at braking point.
 then someone (i dont mind it being Azreal's char, im just concerned about what he would do with Elizabeth).
 he then lets her mututilate/eat her sire after staking him(wanting to check this with you cl)
 she is then induced into vampire society, and after... i think i said 20 years? she discovers that she was framed for marys murder by the vampire that has put her up and brought her into vampire society. so she runs and create her own home.
 
 as to the elders... hay here is an idea, perhaps azreal and the elder show up and get her to help... that could work. t'would be a bold move...
 as to her sire though, basically he has been playing power games with the elder, and he was getting tired with him. Elizabeth was merely a pawn meant to frustrate him. (basically her sire was an anarchist that liked to get away with as much as he could)
 killing inocents, embracing with out permision, especualy if  the one you embrace is the perfect scape goat for the murder. the elders think they have cleared everything up, and then bam, she is dead... and wait she's a vampire. one to mr anarchist.
 he didnt count on them using her to find him, and got him. to bad for them.
 
 the interaction i had planed was bassicaly npc vamps being horrible to elizabeth about her sire... i hadnt given it much more thought                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Miyo34949332 on December 05, 2006, 06:14:00 AM
                Name: Mallorie Du Coeur
 Sex: Female
 Age/Embrace: born 1927, embraced 1950 – age 23
 
 Appearance:
 
 Mallorie is of French descent, standing at a height of 5’7.  She has the look of a Japanese comic character, which is to say as thin as a twig.  She wears a pair of skin hugging jeans, a simple black sweater and a short wool trench coat.  Her brown hair is tied in a half-ponytail behind her.  Mallorie’s body, as compared with her peers, is of a smaller stature.  From a close distance, her ostensible innocence is betrayed by her eyes which open into tempestuous chaos.  Mallorie looks quite pleasant in general and would be even more so if she happened to smile normally once in a while.  The smile she does smile is one that leaves you wondering.
 
 Possessions:
    
 After her arrival in Hawkport, she managed to procure a small run down apartment in the Old Town district.  She has no mode of transportation therefore relying on public transportation which isn’t too much of a problem.  She always carries her butter knife (refer to history), which she hides on her body.  Her job at a run down bar pays moderately but money isn’t of great concern to her.  She also has income from the various individuals she likes to pickpocket while feeding.  
 
 Personality:
 
 Mallorie isn’t a particularly talkative one.  If diagnosed, she would most probably be labeled as of the cyclothymic and psychopathic suffering from psychosis.  She believes that there are eyes constantly watching her from the dark crevasses of the night.  Mallorie doesn’t come off as particular insane though like most psychopaths, can be somewhat charming at times.  
 
 Powers:  
 
 Similar to that of dementation/dominate as seen in Bloodlines.
 
 History:
 
 My life is a series of ill-omened occurrences entwined together to form a spider’s web of salvation.  
 
 A long time ago I was in two places.  Two places at once, yes.  Half of me was an egg, and the other half was squiggling in a testicle somewhere.  After a nice night at a restaurant of mediocre value, a morning of confusion, and nine months, I came into existence in the city of Newnan.  I never knew my father.  Apparently he was a nice man of handsome features.  He lost his life in the war.  It seemed a lot of the children on my block had fathers lost in wars with handsome features.  When they don’t come home, they can be anything you want them to be.
 
 For as long as I can remember, my mother worked at Macy’s as a clerk.  With her working hours, I spent many more hours at my grandparent’s home.  It wasn’t an ugly house.  It was the spitting image of the American dream; white picket fence and all.  I lived in the black and white of Pleasantville, desperately seeking the flowers of colour.  I found fruits.
 
 Spending so much time with the elderly opens the mind to new truths which can be defined as great secrets of life.  When my mind first became my own, I came to realize that the elderly had an uncanny ability to sponge the life-energy of the young and youthful.  Though this secret was quite clear to me, I endured their ostentatious displays of various treats, including the fondling of various erogenous zones.  This, however, took its tow on me as every time they were near, I felt as if a slice of the pie that was me was taken and consumed.  In the end, the treats did not make up for this loss.  In response to this, I was forced to take Lassie’s life.
 
 It was about then I stopped visiting my grandparents.  I went home to live with my sweet dear mother who still worked at Macy’s.  After the Pearl Harbor Day sales at the department store, she would come home with her feet blistered, her hands swollen and her hair a mess.  It was something the narcissism of me of which had extended onto her did not enjoy.  During this time of my teenage years, with my mother, I lived in a small shanty apartment.  I spent most of my day at school like a regular normal child, smoking in the girls’ room.  I’d spend the night at home sitting in front of the dinner table in the empty apartment with a cold meal waiting for mother to return.  She was ecstatic one night.  Ã¢â‚¬Å“Oh dear Mallie, how adorable this man is.  How I wish perhaps one day he’ll take us home,â€? she said to me one night.  Perhaps she had found her prince and that she did in the most peculiar species of the frog.  She brought the man home one day and he stayed.  He had fat on his neck.  He came home from the war and brought it with him.  When I turned twenty, mother died with a black eye.  The prince disappeared and I went to my grandparents’.  
 
 At my grandparents,’ who had aged into the almost deceased, my pie started disappeared once again.  I came home to find it gone, slice by slice taken by busy fingers until one day I took up the butter knife.  When I found fingers picking at my pie again, I engaged in the commencement of the ‘Danse Macabre’ where I showered my lovely grandparents with their own organs and genitalia.  
 
 With my life behind me, I wandered the streets doing odd-jobs, the majority of the time a blur of substances.  I found myself in the last few nights of my life.  The ceiling was potholed like that of my step-father’s face, the mattress smelled of my enuresis.  The filth was all around me in this quiet darkness, a silence that I could hear.  My hands and feet tied to the legs of the bed frame, I could only wait for whatever demons came to devour me.  When they came, my body became not of my own.  When they were gone, I became acutely aware of the man who looked at me from the closet.  There he stood motionless as if he were just a piece of the puzzle that was my consciousness. Unfaltering and unblinking, his eyes were persistent as though they had no eyelids.  I don’t know how many nights or how many days went by.  I felt my stomach grumble from the lack of food, I felt my stomach fade away into the silence.  In the end, the man never left me.
 
 When I finally opened my eyes, I was dead in the middle of a blood splattered room, lying in the filth of my own feces and urine.  Standing over my corpse was my savior, the man who never left my side.  Every night, we re-enacted the ritual of my death with his eyes always watching.  For nights at a time, I would be left out without the access of the precious liquid that sustained my unlife while he watched from the sanctuary of his closest.  
 
 Eventually, I grew tired of death and left Newnan.  
 
 *
 
 Hmm...  let me know if there's anything you'd like me to fix or clarify.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 05, 2006, 07:51:00 PM
                lol is anyone in this rp going to be anything but quiet and reclusive?                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on December 05, 2006, 08:15:00 PM
                NUh-uh!
 I'M gonna make character named Archie MAsters!(because that way he combines the overwhelming carrot top  perv kid from the 50's charisma with the ghostly coolnes of Vlad Masters from Danny Phantom!)
 He's gonna be a big black man that will want to hunt vampires to prove to the "dawgs in the 'hood he's one mean nigga" (and also because he saw blade 3) by takin down a vampire!(Or so he be believin!) with a katanna n a "piece"!
 And he'll always be braggin ta "da bitchez that no frickin vampire is gonna take this brother down cuz they re all lounly goth crackerz with capes,reZpect yo!"                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 05, 2006, 09:12:00 PM
                In Reply To #41
 
 *takes a picture of gostro and draws a big red crosshair on his forhead* anything you say, hunter....touch a vampire and i'll soon come for you.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 05, 2006, 10:21:00 PM
                In Reply To #40
 
 It's that strong, silent thing. It's "cool".                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 05, 2006, 10:23:00 PM
                In Reply To #43
 
 oh...i dont usually do it, and im cool as hell though...i guess thats just me...                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 05, 2006, 10:40:00 PM
                In Reply To #44
 elizabeth isnt nessasarily strong... but she does what she needs to do... and will probably brake down every now and again... or just snap.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on December 05, 2006, 10:42:00 PM
                archie masters ll probably die at the second post but man do I hope it'll be funs!                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 06, 2006, 10:22:00 AM
                In Reply To #39
 
 Looks all well and proper so far.
 Very nice and cozy. I'm sure we'll get along swimmingly...
 
 I do need to know how you get by on a night to night basis. What allows you to coexist with the other beings in the city be they living or unliving? Being a bit twisted and homicidal would cause the Council to keep an eye on you.
 
 Anyway, I think it's time to kick things until they wake from that drunken stupor. Otherwise, people might just get an awkward look on their faces and slowly back out through the fire exit to that waiting escape car...
 The program I'm with encourages creative ability so they won't whine if I spend my work hours writing stories and I have at least two more hours to kill.
 
 [added Dec  6 2006  8:04AM]
 
 God, I have *no* imagination...
 Here's my old one. Revamped so to speak.
 Pun intended, of course.
 
 Name:
 
 Lucas S. (Full name has been forgotten.)
 
 Gender:
 
 Male. (duh)
 
 Age:
 
 Seemingly mid to late twenties.
 He has lost count on the years since his turning.
 
 Appearance:
 
 No matter his actual physical condition, Lucas always seems tired and drained. Overworked, substance abuser, sleepless and Keith Richards comes to mind. His steel blue eyes hint at a much more advanced age than his body prefers to show and they seem framed by constant bags. He has mid length brown hair and normally sports a short beard since he considers shaving to be a waste of time even though facial hair makes feeding more complicated.
 Of average height and weight, he's not very noticable in a crowd which allows him to blend in with the rest of the living sacrifices on the altar of capitalism that is Old Town. Due to the time of year with rainfall and cold winds, he prefers to cover up in a thick, brown coat.
 
 Possessions:
 
 Driven to migration, Lucas prefers to stay in no particular place. Once he becomes accustomed to an enviroment, he starts to sense it and has to move for the sake of his own well being. Tasting the misery of the beaten wife next door is just too much. Right now, he stays in a small apartment in Old Town but recent events has caused him to consider relocating again.
 This is made possible by the old Volkswagen Polo he obtained about a decade ago. He tends to carry a shiv when walking outside to ward off muggers.
 
 Personality:
 
 Usually calm and somewhat analytical, Lucas is hard to anger and stress seems like something of an alien concept to him. Possibly because of his sketchy time perception. He may seem judgemental at times but as it turns out, his so called preconcieved ideas are almost always spot on. At times, he seems distant. As if drifting in a world of his own.
 
 History:
 
 Memories are surprisingly fragile. Not moreso than the mind itself but they can be easily distorted and manipulated by people and events. As such, little remains of Lucas' past memories of mortal life. The basics are still there but the real problem comes from the time following his rebirth into darkness.
 
 These memories may lead to his eventual undoing because despite all efforts to surpress and forget, the past haunts him at every moment. Lucas is traumatised, to say the least. The years seem so distant and still always so close.
 
 At one time, he worked at his father's so called insane asylum, tending to the lost souls within. He quickly became enamored with the workings of the human mind and made many efforts to learn from his patients. Back in those days, treatment of the ill was brutal and in many ways barbaric, defying all humanity. Lucas was appaled by this but still watched them suffer in silence.
 
 One night, a new specimen arrived to the building. A woman this time. Her eyes betrayed no sign of emotion as the guard led her into the cell and she sat down on the floor peacefully as the steel door closed in front of her. Her exotic appearance stirred something within Lucas and he found himself spending more time with her than with most other patients. She wasn't like the others. Not a raving, howling beast or catatonic vegetable.
 
 She seemed sensible, intelligent and reasonable. Utterly insane, yes, but still pleasant to be around and her insanity turned her into a dangerous beauty. Lucas' journal soon filled up with dreamlike passages, likening the exotic woman to a poisonous flower and notions of a life together outside the walls of the asylum as well as nightime dreams of her enchanting voice, charming smile and deep, sea green eyes. He became obsessed with helping her. To rescue the woman from her demons and heal her wounds. To one day hold her in his arms with no fear and make her happy. This made it all the more difficult to see her suffer the "treatment" the asylum offered.
 
 As the weeks passed, Erica seemed to be wasting away in her cell, never even touching the food he offered. Self starvation wasn't part of her disorder and needless to say, Lucas grew more and more concerned for her well being. Eventually, this led to Erica escaping, leaving Lucas behind on the floor of her cell, gasping for air as he bled out from a horrifying neckwound. In the end, he found out all too late that she had told him the truth about everything...
 
 He spent the months that followed in a cell, seemingly afflicted by the same strange illness that the newly escaped lunatic had shown. In turn, Lucas' father became obsessed with curing him. In his cell, Lucas fed on rats whilst listening to the mournful wailing of the patients around him. There was no way to shut it out and it seemed impossible to silence the voices.
 
 He found that he could hear them at all times. Sometimes he could even see what they saw. Twisted images and hallucinations tore away at his sanity and they kept on dancing behind his eyelids even when they were sleeping.
 It was weak at first. Whispers and distant cries and then a crecendo of voices, calling out. The voices grew stronger and eventually he could distinguish between them and communicate. Most were incoherent but some realised what was happening and pleaded for release. Soon, he joined their twisted song as his mind broke under the pressure from the trauma, tortured by their constant suffering and the memories of his deadly black rose...
 
 Eventually, Lucas repeated his former friend's feat of escaping and spent many years on the move.
 In the years that followed, Lucas grew more and more detached to mankind and he kept studying them from a distance, at first absorbing the wisdom of Freud and later Jung but dismissing them all in favour of the raw truth and insight of the human minds he gained by stepping inside them and living their hopes and fears.
 The suffering was always there. The whole of humanity boiled underneath the surface and while it was difficult, he learned to shut it out. The voices never grew silent but he could force their screams into whispers to allow himself some respite.
 
 Now he serves the Council as an interrogator and has no problem with breaking open even the most stubborn mind.
 By focusing on the voices, he can choose which one to listen to and hear their every thought. With his intimate understanding of human suffering, he can also punish disobediance by plunging others into their own personal Hell. He is still haunted by constant images and memories of his time in the asylum and afterward to the point of it distracting him from reality. Because of this, the Council chooses not to rely on him too heavily but still bribes him into their service with minor favours.
 
 For reference, compare his powers to Auspex 4, Telepathy, Dementation 2, Haunting and possibly Daimonion 1, Sense the Sin for practical purposes. Imagine having to listen to everyone on the street as they tell you everything they're thinking about and being able to turn it against them.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 08, 2006, 11:40:00 PM
                In Reply To #47
 Just a last check that Elizabeth is ok.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 08, 2006, 11:50:00 PM
                In Reply To #48
 
 I honestly don't know...
 I haven't really figured out what you want to do with her and what you had planned. Right now you have a collection of historical tidbits but I have no idea what you plan to do with them. If possible, I'd like you to revise the idea a bit or (maybe too harsh) make a new one. I don't know.
 This is probably attributed to my sleeplessness so I'm not in my right mind at the moment...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 08, 2006, 11:54:00 PM
                In Reply To #49
 
 First post woot. you're on councilman.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 09, 2006, 12:12:00 AM
                In Reply To #50
 
 It'll happen. I just need some rest. It's 4am and the world is slowly coming alive around me so I need to crawl back into my box. That first bit was a rewrite so It'll take a while to figure out a proper response. I do know Nathan's personality well, though so that won't be a problem. Getting in character and all that.
 Low bloodsugar too so it affects my writing. Atrocious, really but at least it's something. Like McDonald's "food".
 
 Good morning, folks.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 09, 2006, 12:17:00 AM
                interesting. myself an artist, i find i do my best work when my concious mind is weakened by fatigue and my subconcious can take manual conrol of my thoughts and motor functions. Produces some profound material. or indecipherable swill...on occasion.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 09, 2006, 12:26:00 AM
                In Reply To #49
 to be honest i didnt have anything special planed, but i will revise the idea when i can.
 
 really, she is just happy reading in her haven.... alone...                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 09, 2006, 12:48:00 AM
                In Reply To #53
 
 sounds dreadfully boring ari, surely you can come up with something better, more...original...                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 09, 2006, 12:58:00 AM
                In Reply To #54
 i can make it such, its just im busy with other things at the moment... speaking off i need to write up stuff on clan lasombra. she was basically an atempt at a simple character... once ive figured out how to write her in ill be reasoably active... but ill do a rehaul as soon as ive time.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on December 09, 2006, 04:17:00 AM
                Oh yeahs I just can t help its being awake for more than 25 hours problem be I ll eventiually need to get a real job n it just don t fit in me creative schedule ;p                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 09, 2006, 08:12:00 AM
                In Reply To #52
 
Azrael il Toreador posted:

 interesting. myself an artist, i find i do my best work when my concious mind is weakened by fatigue and my subconcious can take manual conrol of my thoughts and motor functions. Produces some profound material. or indecipherable swill...on occasion.

 
 Agreed. I know all too well the positive effects on artistic ability brought on by insomnia. My problem is that once I start, the mind derails and many of those great ideas turn into nonsense because of my lacking ability to fully understand the English language...
 Some of my greatest works have been created whilst surrounded by the hallucinations of sleeplessness.
 
 Still, most of my ideas are my own and result in what people call "junk art".
 An offensive term, sure but at times, I really agree with them. Like so:
 http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/293/lilithza1.jpg
 Anyway, my skull is bobbing up and down in the sea of madness right now and I'll have to wait for it to sink down to the tasty kelp of creativity. Then I'll write.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on December 09, 2006, 01:13:00 PM
                Nice writings on the story thread, Crazy locomotion appendixes,funny thingie!It sounds like a novelized maiden song!                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 10, 2006, 01:01:00 AM
                ari, gostro, CL, valoris, miyo, comeon and start on the thread...im kindof bored...                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on December 10, 2006, 01:58:00 AM
                Sorry matey been avin a bitch of a time fixin my 3d software,anyways I left yas peeps a lil treat theres =P                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 10, 2006, 04:52:00 AM
                In Reply To #59
 
 Working on the Sabbath!? A pox on thee!
 In all seriousness though, I'm working on my post at this very moment. A few minor details need to be taken into account. I should be done after lunch. Mmm... pizza...
 
 Also, I'd like for everyone to disable any sigbanner or similar things since it sort of ruins the mood...
 
 (edit)
 
 First name basis, yes but Nathan is a "special" person and wouldn't want to degrade his lordship over others by adressing them in anything but a formal manner. Maybe he would make an exeption if he were in a more desperate situation but right now, he still believes that the situation is about as serious as a kankersore.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ChaoticDrahauk on December 12, 2006, 03:32:00 PM
                Name: Tuloskiv Nastrav
 Gender: Male
 Age: 235
 Appearance: Tall, gaunt and extremely pale, even for a vampire. Jet-black hair and blood-red, murderous eyes. A long, thin scar lines his throat which Tuloskiv makes as obvious as possible amongst fellow kine. He always wears combinations of black, purple and silver, normally in very long, flowing robes, to give an air of regality about him.
 Possessions: A katana and wakizashi, a very understated apartment except for one, dominating portrait of his wife. A hidden vault of gold used only for absolute emergencies. A Smith 'n' Western for times when close combat is far too dangerous.
 Personality: As lively and as vibrant as the day he was sired, always prepared for a fight, he leads by example, breaking as many necks and ripping off as many limbs as the next vamp, if not more. However, this liveliness is that of murderousness, not a positive outlook.
 History: In life Tuloskiv was always feared for how adept he was at killing, and was never content with just having a few means by which to do so. However, in death, he became a useful weapon by which the aims of his clan, of whom the name is still unknown. All that is known is that they relish in causing as much, if not more, chaos than there already is, and that he has recently attained a level of leadership within his clan. Recently his mate was slain by a group of vampire hunters and since then he has become somewhat crazed, siring as many people as he can and then forcing them into his service. He has been constructing a network by which he can track all the hunter's moves, and is hoping for the chance to find and sire the ones who murdered his mate.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 12, 2006, 04:48:00 PM
                In Reply To #62
 
 a few things. 1, its Called a "smith and wesson" becuase those were the two owners of the company. 2, you're awfully old for this rp...im just saying. three, wouldnt siring so many people call out the council? 4, you're of course aware that there are no clans in crazy leg's special universe here...                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 13, 2006, 12:05:00 PM
                In Reply To #63
 
 Yeah. What he said.
 Much too old, outrageous behaviour and a few other quirks.
 Feel free to rework the ideas when the mood strikes.
 
 Right now I'm working on a few details to enhance the overall experience but before I employ these measures who's function is disturbingly akin to a ribbed condom, I have some real life issues to deal with. Big scary issues with body odour.
 A new post should be up this weekend or so if all goes well...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 14, 2006, 02:08:00 AM
                wtf. your thread will die if no1 bumps it...                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 14, 2006, 07:02:00 AM
                In Reply To #65
 
 Impatient, are we? Well I guess that makes it everyone's responsibility to do so. I cant write anything today because I'm going to protest against the new government with a few hundred other leftist wackos. Wish me luck and that there won't be any use of teargas on either side...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ChaoticDrahauk on December 14, 2006, 02:37:00 PM
                In Reply To #63
 I'm only going to attack two things you have pointed out: 1: Well excuuuuuuuse me for not knowing the proper name of a type of weapon that is not my preffered course of action (melee weapons are my desired tool)
 
 4: I only said clan for lack of a better term. I wasn't meaning clan in the VtM sense, just the sense of a group of vampires brought together who have similar ideals. Nothing else. Not the type of clan where all the vampires have a common ancestor which links them all together.
 
 But I must ask, how is 235 old for a vampire? I just need things cleared up a bit, because I swear 235 is like 26 in human years or there-abouts.
 
 
 [added Dec 14 2006  9:52AM]
 
 In Reply To #66
 On a lighter note, Hooray for Lefty Nutjobs! You've become a man after my own heart C.L. Just not enough of you guys around.
 
 
 [added Dec 14 2006 10:09AM]
 
 In Reply To #64
 Oh, and here's a re-working:
 
 Name: Tuloskiv Nastrav
 Gender: Male
 Age: 95
 Appearance: Tall, gaunt and extremely pale, even for a vampire. Jet-black hair and blood-red, murderous eyes. A long, thin scar lines his throat which Tuloskiv makes as obvious as possible amongst fellow kine. He always wears combinations of black, purple and silver, normally in very long, flowing robes, to give an air of regality about him.
 Possessions: A katana and wakizashi, a very understated apartment except for one, dominating portrait of his wife. A hidden vault of gold used only for absolute emergencies. A Smith 'n' Wesson for times when close combat is far too dangerous.
 Personality: Lively and vibrant, always prepared for a fight, he leads by example, breaking as many necks and ripping off as many limbs as the next vamp, if not more. However, this liveliness is that of murderousness, not a positive outlook.
 History: In life Tuloskiv was always feared for how adept he was at killing, and was never content with just having a few means by which to do so. However, in death, he became a useful weapon by which the aims of his clan, of whom the name is still unknown. All that is known is that they relish in causing as much, if not more, chaos than there already is, and that he has recently attained a level of leadership within his clan. Recently his mate was slain by a group of vampire hunters and since then he has become somewhat crazed, siring many people who seem as adept at killing as he. He has been constructing a network by which he can track all the hunter's moves, and is hoping for the chance to find and sire the ones who murdered his mate.
 
 Tell me if there is anything else that needs to be re-worked so I can do a fully final edit.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 18, 2006, 10:51:00 AM
                In Reply To #67
 
 Murderous and chaos spreading would be two qualites not very practical when the city is trying to mop up a security breach of this kind. Sure, you can be violent and make things hard for the hunters by tearing off a limb or two when the situation calls for it but chaos? Nuh-uh.
 
 I'd also need an explanation as to how he obtained his exotic weaponry and I'm not sure about the clothing.
 Robes tend to stick out in a crowd, you know...
 
 Anyway, the reason I haven't written anything until now is because I'm very, very sick. Just checking in here before crawling back into bed. New stuff should be up within the week.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ChaoticDrahauk on December 18, 2006, 02:09:00 PM
                In Reply To #68
 Let's try just one last time:
 
 Name: Tuloskiv Nastrav
 Gender: Male
 Age: 95
 Appearance: Tall, gaunt and extremely pale, even for a vampire. Jet-black hair and blood-red, murderous eyes. A long, thin scar lines his throat which Tuloskiv makes as obvious as possible amongst fellow kine. He always wears combinations of black, purple and silver, normally in very long, flowing robes, to give an air of regality about him, when amongst his own kind. When amongst humans he wears a black evening suit with silver hems and cuffs.
 Possessions: A katana and wakizashi, which he "obtained" from a group of Japanese soldiers, a very understated apartment except for one, dominating portrait of his wife. A hidden vault of gold used only for absolute emergencies. A Smith 'n' Wesson for times when close combat is far too dangerous.
 Personality: Lively and vibrant, always prepared for a fight, he leads by example, breaking as many necks and ripping off as many limbs as the next vamp, if not more. However, this liveliness is that of murderousness, not a positive outlook. Although he will always find the time appropriate for exacting this murderous lust.
 History: In life Tuloskiv was always feared for how adept he was at killing, and was never content with just having a few means by which to do so. However, in death, he became a useful weapon by which the aims of his clan, of whom the name is still unknown, could be exacted. All that is known is that they are attempting to achieve recognition by the council as a useful tool to eliminate threats to their existence, and that he has recently attained a level of leadership within his clan. Recently his mate was slain by a group of vampire hunters and since then he has become somewhat crazed, siring many people who seem as adept at killing as he. He has been constructing a network by which he can track all the hunter's moves, and is hoping for the chance to find and sire the ones who murdered his mate.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 18, 2006, 09:51:00 PM
                i dont care if your dying CL, i just watched "Domino", and if i dont get to write about killing someone gangland style, im gonna come down to finland or whatever the fuck socialist thrid world euopean shithole you infest and do to you what modern medicine has been preventing!                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on December 19, 2006, 04:31:00 AM
                Cmon now crazys ye can always take over christmas like Jack Skellington dids!                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 21, 2006, 07:27:00 AM
                due to stuff happening and what not, im a little busy and probably wont have time to go over my character for a while.
 
 my apologies.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 23, 2006, 06:05:00 AM
                In Reply To #72
 
 A while is a long timeframe there, buddy. Care to elaborate?
 
 Anyway, christmas has me busy and the sickness has a stranglehold on my whole family now. Great. Despite all this, I'll try to throw something together soon. Really soon.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on December 23, 2006, 06:28:00 AM
                In Reply To #73
 dont really like time, but i suppose that a while could be a long time, to be honest, i dont know.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 23, 2006, 06:54:00 AM
                In Reply To #74
 
 So we have a montnoir situation here, huh?
 Well don't worry. The story will go on and you can jump in when possible. Right now, I need to focus on writing. There's so much work to be done today! Geez...
 
 Anyhoo, the general idea right now is that while the council does their thing in seperate posts, the players do their thing and the hunters keep sharpening their stakes somewhere until I choose to introduce them.
 Once the poo hits the spinners I'll tie things together and we'll start coworking this thing into a coherent storyline.
 
 Drahauk, please edit your post. I'll bring in the hunters when the time comes. For now, just coast along.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on December 24, 2006, 01:23:00 AM
                cl im afraid im alightly unclear as to my target. am i after the vampire who commited the breach in the tennants, or am i after the human who witnessed the breach?                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on December 24, 2006, 01:31:00 AM
                Actually, I'm a little lost too.
 
 I understand that a vampire was killed outright in the streets, and as such it shocked the public, and there were dozens of Kine witnesses who gathered round and saw a vampire for the first time.
 
 Am I correct in this?
 
 Also, did the vampire end his own life, or was there someone responsible for killing him in the streets? A Hunter, or a Kindred, or what?
 
 I'm really lost here. And as soon as this is cleared up, i'll edit my part of the story to fit.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 24, 2006, 08:25:00 AM
                In Reply To #77
 
 Bingo. I thought I made that bit clear? I guess I suck.
 Anyway, there was an unsanctioned turning and the "victim" got so freaked out that he ran outside into the dusk and fried on the spot. As a result, a few people saw it and will most likely make it the hottest Youtube item this month. Right now, the Council is busy discussing *everything* even remotely related to the incident and have used their seperate sources to cover it up.
 
 Nathan Brown has sent two of his contacts to interrogate and execute the offender while the other contacts fix the less messy bits like media manipulation and the like.
 
 Of course, in this day and age it's impossible to halt the spreading of the material but it is still possible to direct the way the event is presented to the unknowing sheep of the world. Hunters know what they see when they see it, though and that's something that has to be dealt with as soon as possible.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on December 24, 2006, 12:08:00 PM
                In Reply To #78
 
 Unsanctioned turning. How does this work in your story? I am just curious to know how long the turning took....i'm picturing, thhe victim and his sire down an alley, he gets bitten, "turns" immediately (with the pain and ecstacy and whatnot), but then freaks out, runs out into the street and dies in the setting sun.
 
 Is this correct? I really need the scenario to be clearer as I am spotting a flaw in my part of the story. My character is a witness to the scene (if you don't already know), but she witnessed it from high up in her apartment. Furthermore she is a vampire and she can spot auras - which is why I need you to clarify things because I've written things about the scene my character witnessed, which I'm not entirely sure is correct with what your scenario of the turning is.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on December 24, 2006, 01:00:00 PM
                In Reply To #79
 
 I'm not sure but didn't I say that it works just like vanilla VtM? All she would have seen would be a terrified person running out from a ground floor apartment into the light and bursting into flame in front of a small number of people that would react accordingly (as in excited yelling, watching in apathy or taking cellphone pictures/videos).                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on December 25, 2006, 03:42:00 AM
                Right. Thanks for clearing that up. It wasn't too clear in your initial discussion, which is why I'm asking now.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 02, 2007, 06:46:00 PM
               
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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on January 02, 2007, 11:43:00 PM
                Okay....I understand what you explained earlier. The problem I have now is I have no idea who Azrael is after, and...Drahauk's portion I can grasp, but apart from that, I'm a bit...lost.
 
 Oh god, this is terrible. I've never felt so useless in an RP before LOL!
 
 I think I'll stay in the shadows until I see a point in the story where I can fit in.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on January 02, 2007, 11:45:00 PM
                In Reply To #83
 
Valoris posted:

  I have no idea who Azrael is after
 

 
 no worries, neither do i.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 03, 2007, 12:23:00 AM
                In Reply To #83
 
 The point right now would be for you to describe what happens in your own little microcosmos as the news of this incident spreads and how you react to these things. What do you do with this knowledge?
 
 As for the person Azrael is after, it's in the folder and I'll bring it up when possible. But I guess personal details aren't what anyone wants so tell me, what's unclear?                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on January 03, 2007, 12:33:00 AM
                Uhh....did you read my portion of the story so far? I already described my character was witnessing the scene. She was not amongst the Kine crowd down the street however. She saw it from her apartment balcony, and she is Kindred.
 
 I even went as far as to include a hint that she witnessed the "culprit" (the one who turned the victim), but apparently no-one seemed to catch the clue.
 
 I'm not sure I'm going to do anything yet. My character isn't one to poke her nose into things that don't concern her, and if she isn't aproached for help, she prefers to let things lie. It's just the way she is. In her point of view, she has absolutely no idea how much chaos this means for the Kindred society..remember that she herself was turned only a couple of years ago, so she's new to the experience, but not so new that she's a total neonate. It's just the politics and the entire fabric of Kindred society she has no idea of, since she lives in almost seclusion, and tries to live "normally" by working at a tattoo parlour.
 
 Hmm..maybe that didn't come through in my writing clear enough.
 
 I think you should tell us as much as possible what is going on with the plot, at least in this discussion thread. I know you want this to sort of unravel as we go along, but it's not really helping the actual RP-ing. We need to know the script at least a few scenes beforehand so we know what to do in our next posts. Correct me if I'm wrong.
                       

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 03, 2007, 01:09:00 AM
                In Reply To #86
 
 So she doesn't know the weight of the situation.
 Maybe a sense of uneasiness but then dismissing it as something that will be fixed and then she goes out for a snack? Live her life a bit. The problems will find her soon enough.
 
 What will happen now, if that's okay to tell, will be that I'll put the council in an endless debate, there will be some semi obvious turns for the worse and I'll introduce the hunters. That's all for now, folks.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Slaydin on January 03, 2007, 02:16:00 PM
                *EDIT
 
 Fuck it.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 03, 2007, 03:40:00 PM
                In Reply To #88
 
Scipoten posted:

 I'm starting to become interested in this thread because it levels the playing field. The problem is, NO ONE knows what it going on rather than at least a couple of gurus who have read through rulebooks who know what to do. I have read through every post here and in the main thread and have a rather feeble grasp of the setting. So I have a questions. A lot of them. What and how you answer will be very important to the cohesion of the setting (at least my my mind). I noticed that you have taken a position of V:TM with things cut out rather than starting from scratch...
 
 1. How connected is this pseudo-Camarilla to other cities? What I mean is, if you are a vampire fugitive in one, does it carry over to other cities as well like Masquerade or do the individual cities basically do their own thing apart from the others like Requiem (in my example, you escape one city and are free in another)?
 
 2. What kind of "flair" is allowed? For example, Thaumaturgy, Daimoinon, Obtenebration, Necromancy, Nihilistics, Protean, Melpominee, Vicissitude, etc.? Are you allowing it but we have to clear it with you first? I noticed everyone is primarily going for mental manipulation Disciplines.
 
 3. What other creatures are in your world? You mentioned Inquisitors (that is screaming WoD) and Werewolves. What about Wraiths and Demons?
 
 4. Can vampires feel emotion or are they basically just distant memories?
 
 5. Is there a Humanity/Path scale?
 
 6. Merits and Flaws?
 
 7. Bloodpool/Willpower?
 
 8. Generation?
 
 9. Can vampires be blood bound?
 
 10. Is there a Bashing/Lethal/Aggravated wound damage scale?
 
 11. Can you use Blood Buffs?
 
 12. Can one commit Diablerie?
 
 13. Is there Frenzy or the Rötschreck?
 
 14. What about poisons or drugs? Can your vampires get drunk?
 
 15. What kind of history do your vampires have? Did it start with Caine? Vlad?
 
 16. Are there any other sects as in Sabbat vs. Camarilla but with different names?
 
 17. Are there Elysium rules?
 
 18. What about the Traditions? Do you have a basic set of rules which all vampires follow?
 
 19. Archons and Justicars? Scourges?
 
 20. Is there any form of Gehenna looming in the near-future or is this really an eternal thing?

 
 The cities have their own histories and circustance has shaped them and their inhabitants. I've kept a lot in the dark intentionally but basically it's like this:
 The Old World with Europe mostly has a very strong and organised vampire presence. More strict and controlled like a more opressive Camarilla but most vampires over there are very old and recognise the need for that kind of control. The Old World is ruled by the Council of Elders who are in essence, the eldest of their kind, hiding away in an undisclosed location in Eastern Europe.
 The cities in the New World are pretty much colonies for a budding immigration of suckers. It's a slow process and until the "colonies" are ready to be knit together into the web of control already established in Europe, the colonies/cities are individually controlled by relatively old vampires appointed as representatives by their European masters. Mini councils governing their seperate colonies under some common laws but as of now, they are pretty much self contained. However, if you fuck up and become wanted, you disappear. The cities remain in touch with each other and an offender is unlikely to be able to bounce between cities, raising hell.
 
 The vampy powers manifest in many, many ways and the mental things are pretty much the stuff that usually manifests. Like a human learning to walk or speak. More exotic powers would be comparable to learning things outside nature like a child learning to read. I'd have to check and approve any exotic ideas, yes but we're talking supernatural beings here so creativeness could be okay.
 
 I don't know when I mentioned werewolves but the hunters operate out of the Vatican and are composed of everything from mercenaries to the classic nun with a gun. They're paid for each confirmed kill and move through the country, constantly looking for signs of the 'spawn of Satan'.
 Their talents vary from elite soldiers to beginners with a van and a stake. I wrote a rather complicated introduction to these things earlier but I can't be bothered to dig it up. 4+ pages. Suffice to say that they have their own ways of covering up their kills and they remain just as hidden as their immortal enemies.
 I don't know enough about the classic Wraith and Demon things to elaborate, though. If I find reason to include them, I can think of something.
 
 Emotions are complicated to define. Even detachment has basis in emotions and after studying so much psychology, I find it hard to imagine ambition, intriuge and motivation to unlive without any sign of human emotions. A being without emotion is a dead, stagnant being with no ability to exist and even vampires live.
 
 Humanity is a human thing. Who judges what is right and wrong and where does depravity turn into animal urges?
 A sentient being forms its own values but if the lack of 'humanity' endangers the safety of a city, the wicked one can expect a swift execution.
 
 You have your own merits and flaws. Or rather, they're in effect but they're all parts of the human the vampire once was. Mental, physical and social abilities carries over and like all other former humans, you were shaped by life.
 I've read these things and they all describe aspects of a being. You are who you are. The rulebooks are made to allow you to create another being with its own past, present and future. If you're empathic or cruel, walk with a limp or have a habit of solving arguments with your fists, it's just you.
 
 We don't use stats here. It's meant to be a story told cooperatively. You have as much blood in you as you borrowed last night and you're as headstrong as your background allows.
 
 I haven't planned anything generationwise.
 
 When it comes to blood bonds, I haven't considered it all that much. Sharing blood would be a thing done in trust and I guess it could have an intimate meaning and feeding always feels nice. But bonding? Haven't thought of a good reason to include it, to be honest.
 
 No damage scale. No stats. If you lose a finger, you lose a finger. Vampiric strength inspires confidence when fighting puny mortals and regeneration is a bonus, though so the vampire usually has an edge over the human every time.
 
 Diablerie could exist in theory but it'd be rare just as human cannibalism. Like those other things, I'd need a good reason to include it before making up rules for it.
 
 Frenzy does exist but is based in the desire to feed. A starved vampire loses more and more control until it reverts to the animal stage, hunting until well fed. At that point, sanity returns but they might have to live with the guilt of having turned a small apartment into a slaughterhouse...
 
 Rötschreck... well fire has been a classic vampire bane for centuries so they'd naturally fear it just like any human. The panic that is Rötschreck seems a bit hard to implement, though considering the problems I've seen already in vanilla VtM.
 
 Vampire bodies are dead so poison wouldn't do much to them.
 Alcohol tastes like it always did so you could enjoy it but it doesn't compare to blood.
 
 The Elder Council knows the origin of vampirism but keeps it a secret to avoid paranoia, egoism, panic or just plain confusion. They are the eldest and have by all accounts been around since before the Dark Ages at least but humans have been talking about vampires for thousands of years...
 Vampire society at large lacks the maturity to deal with the truth at this point.
 
 Sabbat, Anarchs and such could exist in theory but I'd need a reason to include them. Hawkport is a 'cammie' city and whatever passes for anarchs were either executed or chased off decades ago. Wether or not their ideas have prevailed somewhere else remains to be seen, I guess.
 
 Elysium could exist. No one really get close enough to harm the Council but general safe havens for vampires could exist. Still, I'd need a reason to include it in the story.
 
 The first Tradition is common sense.
 Number three, four and six are in effect as well but in a different wording.
 
 Political positions exist but works differently. Each Council member has a representative that handles the surface of things while the Council is pretty much the inner circle that makes the major decisions.
 The scourge is composed of hitmen like Azrael's character.
 Each member has someone to do the dirty work.
 
 And you don't have to worry about any sort of Gehenna right now, at least.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Slaydin on January 03, 2007, 09:48:00 PM
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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on January 03, 2007, 10:19:00 PM
                ...Traditions?                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on January 03, 2007, 11:11:00 PM
                In Reply To #91
 
 It's ok, Az. I'm a bit lost here as well.
 
 Sorry, but the Brujah in me is itching for some action to happen already. It's been weeks and the actual story thread has been stagnating. I know each of us have our separate scenes, but honestly, there is very little progression by way of the actual plot.
 
 I think it would be really helpful if we could all work out some kind of plot "goals"...at least for the time being. Who is doing what, at least, I feel has to be stated. We won't end up so clueless this way. If Az knows who he's after, I'm certain he can write more and move the story further a little bit. Drahauk is doing fine in his progression, whereas myself I'm just...well I know it's not my time yet, but again I feel like I'm sitting in the dark not knowing what the next point in the story is. sad
 
 Scip isn't really involved in this fiction but thanks for sorting out some vagarities here. We defnitely need a few more well-defined rules to progress, I feel. Reason why the PV club thread moves so quickly is because the rules are already there from WoD..and...ok I'll stop lecturing.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 04, 2007, 03:02:00 AM
                In Reply To #90
 
 I'm not a very good storyteller. I guess I expect too much from people when it comes to creativity. Oh well...
 I leave a lot in the dark because much of it won't be used in this story.
 
 
Scipoten posted:

 Ok so bottom line is disallow it until you approve it. Are your vampires basically left to themselves to discover their powers or are there texts and documents? Remember, you are dealing with a VERY thorough Tremere.
 </quote>
 
 The mental powers manifest on their own in those that have an affienty for it. More complicated powers would have to be learned from others. In that regard, yes, there would be documents and historical documents of stranger things happening.
 
 
 
Scipoten posted:

 When you mentioned silver, you said that it works like silver against werewolves, so I'm assuming you have werewolves in your story. Traditional vampire lore states that silver slows down vampires like an allergic reaction, but it does not kill them. Silver nails driven into a coffin will trap the vampire inside as well.
 </quote>
 
 Hmm... my shitty English returns to haunt me.
 Werewolves are weak against silver in myth and so are vampires. That's what I meant. As for them being that in this story, I thought about it but haven't decided on it.
 
 
Scipoten posted:

 What about the Umbra, the spirit world? Demons, nature spirits, and Wraiths reside within it. You will have to at least include Wraiths considering Miyo lives in a haunted house. It can't exactly be "haunted" without a wraith.
 </quote>
 
 I guess I misunderstood the bio there. I thought it said that people avoided the lair out of the rumour that it was haunted... I suck at comprehension...
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 So in a roundabout, circling-the-bush sort of way, you are saying vampires DO feel emotion?
 </quote>
 
 I see no reason why they shouldn't.
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 You didn't answer my question. Will a baseball bat do a different kind of damage from a knife? What about fire and sunlight?
 </quote>
 
 A baseball bat will break a bone, a knife will give a cut. Fire will hurt like fuck and sunlight kills you pretty much instantly.
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 You didn't answer my question. Would the physical sensations of getting drunk on alcohol, high on drugs, pain from poison (even if there is no actual damage) still take place?
 </quote>
 
 Nope.
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 Like humans, vampires have a nose, and they will stick that nose in places that others may not want them to. And below that nose is a mouth. Anyone with any kind of connections would be able to find out and someone, somewhere will blab, loudly. It is a well known FACT that governments can't keep a secret to save their ass, let alone a secret that would be around this long. There is a saying: "Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
 </quote>
 
 Call it the greatest coverup in history, then. Theories abound, naturally. These guys aren't the government. They're ancient vampires with centuries of secrets between them.
 
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 So basically, even if other factions exist, it is irrelevant to this particular chronicle.
 </quote>
 
 Bingo and that goes for a lot of what I've written so far.
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 OMG... The political scene IS Elysium. Even in V:TM, the Prince and Primogen could do little against a united Elysium. Not every Elder will be a counsel member. They will come together to pool resources, make friends and enemies, etc. just like Congress or Parliament. The Counsel will have to deal with the Elders as peers due to their EXTENSIVE influence, resources, connections, etc.
 

 
 Okay. I'm a twit.
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 So it identical to the V:TM Camarilla Inner Circle with their Justicars only on a city-scale instead of global.
 

 
 I suppose so.
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 You have rolled the duties of Sheriff and Scourge into one when they were kept separate for a reason. The Sheriff is a public figure used to make examples of lawbreakers and to deter others from breaking vamp law by his mere intimidating presence. The Scourge, on the other hand, is completely unknown and is the silent assassin that makes people just disappear, almost always for political reasons.
 

 
 Yeah I mess up a lot, it seems.
 
 What i meant about Gehennastuff is that there's no use for it here in this story and I'll likely not use it.
 
 [added Jan  3 2007 10:07PM]
 
 In Reply To #92
 
 Traditions:
 
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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Slaydin on January 04, 2007, 03:59:00 AM
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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on January 04, 2007, 04:39:00 AM
                In Reply To #93
 
Crazy-Legs posted:

 In Reply To #90
 
 I'm not a very good storyteller. I guess I expect too much from people when it comes to creativity. Oh well...
 I leave a lot in the dark because much of it won't be used in this story.

 
 PLEASE. Don't say that. *sighs* It's YOUR story. Well, at least you were the one whom the idea came off of anyway.
 
 I think we're all pretty enthusiastic about the story, and you should be too. Thing is, it's a little hard for us to keep up the pace if you keep too much to yourself.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on January 04, 2007, 05:09:00 PM
                ive been under the assumption that i was more of a sheriff than a scourge...and miyo DID say the hauntedness was rumors generated by her presence in the house, so there neednt be and demons. and stop going on about stats. its not an rp like that, so much as an interactive story (if im understanding CL correctly) and C-L, take it from me, your a just fine story teller...i'm thinking about writing an actual short story for my character i like him so much.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Slaydin on January 04, 2007, 08:48:00 PM
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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on January 05, 2007, 02:20:00 AM
                Ya knows I don t be likins ta say this but teh seceny so far from what yer headbuttin valse with Scippy has led me to discerns (if I can anything at alls!) that evens with a possible lack of concious thouht ya be usin a lot of stuff from the requiem take at the blood bouquet world,Mad motional extremities!
 
 Why not gives it a lookie?
 Me or Scyps or the ancient one,ayes,that unnameable entity sittin behinf each and every written n mistyped word and/or cryptogram in existence can supllies ya the bookies!                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on January 05, 2007, 06:51:00 PM
                In Reply To #97
 
 i AM a writer scip, and regardless what right have you to say i cant have an opinion of the quality of anothers work? pompous son of a ....                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Slaydin on January 06, 2007, 02:52:00 AM
                *EDIT
 
 Fuck it.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 05, 2007, 08:34:00 PM
               
 Will read and reply to new posts when I can.
 Molto occupato to say the least... voi voi...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 08, 2007, 04:41:00 AM
                In Reply To #94
 
 
Scipoten posted:

 RESISTANCE AND HEALING TIMES. Bashing damage (like from a bat) will bruise but the damage is cut in half. Lethal (like a knife) is suffered as normal. Aggrivated (like fire and sunlight) cannot be resisted at all unless you have Fortitude. Bashing is easy to heal, Leathal is medium, Aggrivated is hard.
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 Jeez... no need to scream.
 Your body takes damage like that of a human but unlike the living, the injuries aren't that likely to kill you since you are already dead. Five shots to the chest will hurt a lot but with no bodily functions you're not very likely to die from it. With the loss of a limb, a large cut or similar injuries you'll bleed and grow weak. Possibly succumbing to the mummification process described on page 1. Death arrives on swift wings if you take enough damage like being cut in half by a roadsign and losing the head is a beloved classic.
 
 You heal up relatively quickly but the hurt will make things difficult. If you're hit by a car and shatter the spine you'll be unable to move and in great pain until the sun comes up and fries you. A lost arm regrows in a week, roughly. Broken bones take about a day and cuts, bruises and gunshots to soft parts close in a few hours.
 Fire leaves mostly superficial injuries that heal like all others but it's really painful and it does have a strong psychological effect. You know, the typical "oh fuck, I'm burning!" effect...
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 Umm... Just how big is the rift between the Elders and Neonates? There is a little term called Ancella. The Ancella would find out from the Elders and Neonates would find out from the Ancella. The Ancilla is the usual go-between for the Elders and Neonates. And if you decide not to have Ancella, you will have even greater problems because evey Neonate will be the childe of an Elder, which would need even further explinations (or excuses). Or is the origin of vampires irrelevent? Are there Ancella?
 
 At least tell us if it is a blood-borne curse or it is demonic possession. BTW, is the vampiric powers a result of the power of the strange vitae, or something more along the lines of something closer to demonic possession?
 
 More on the food/drink/drugs. If you drink the blood of a drunk or high mortal, will you feel the effects? And do you puke if you partake of mortal food? Or does it sit in your stomach and do nothing?
 
 Since you haven't ansered what I said about blood bonding other vampires, am I correct to assume that one can bond them?
 
 Considering Azrael's smash-and-crash style, he is a Sheriff and not a Scourge.
 
 And for the factions. It DOES matter in your chronicle. What is the reason for this pseudo-Camarilla? Who do they fight? Why do they exist? Any orgianization without competition will collapse from the inside. If there is no one else, then there would most definately have been an Anarch Revolt, probably several of them by now.

 
 The chain of information would exist but isn't all that relevant to the story. It won't affect the players all that much. The eldest are in charge, the middle aged have their positions and uses and the young u'ns are the peasants of the system. Their creators have a responsibility to monitor their activities for a while after creation and generally keep an eye on them afterwards just in case.
 
 The origin that is kept secret is meant to stretch back a few millenia. In those days, vampirism was a bit more widespread and disorganised, giving base to the old mythology. The origin won't play a part in the story, nor will much of this info but it's pretty neat that I make all this crap up... I was think of making the first vampires into entirely inhuman, supernatural beings giving their 'gift' to humans, making the first typical undead suckers.
 
 Alcy or druggie blood tastes of the drug itself and becomes something of an aquired taste and delicacy for some. The rush isn't there, though. The basic consumption of blood is more than enough. Eating mortal food would be like stuffing a burger into a corpse. Doesn't do anything. If you miss pizza, take a bite and spit it out or you'll have decaying food inside you. Get rid of it by puking if you have to.
 
 If I find it nessecary to include blood bonds, I will.
 
 Opposition to the 'cam' exists but it won't be relevant to the story. I don't know how else to put it...
 
 [added Jan  7 2007 11:43PM]
 
 In Reply To #101
 
 Mmm... yes. I've made dozens of other roleplays following different themes but the WoD crowd is a tough audience and requires more thought and planning. I'm not good at that. I'm more of an idea person...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on January 08, 2007, 05:04:00 AM
                Keeps it ups mad motional larger bones!
 We av faith n all that in yas!                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on January 08, 2007, 11:26:00 PM
                When you're done with working out the finer points of the story's rules, could you possibly make a new list out? This will make it easier for the players to check against while they write their portions. I think we will need a new list and all that cuz this isn't like WoD and...yeah..we don't really know the ground rules all that much.
 
 Not that I don't grasp what you're discussing but I'd like to get on with the story.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 10, 2007, 05:25:00 AM
               
 Azrael, I've been working on a post but the past few days have been utter hell in all aspects so I haven't gotten around to finishing it. The goal is for it to be a piece of the interrogation and then a minor introduction of the hunters. Patience...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Slaydin on January 10, 2007, 04:49:00 PM
                *EDIT
 
 Fuck it.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on January 15, 2007, 12:41:00 AM
                C-L! um...how about that post, before i qualify for social security checks?                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Slaydin on January 15, 2007, 04:01:00 AM
                I was thinking about joining up but I have a personal issue with C-L so I'm not and I'm retracting my offer to help. (nothing to do with RP)                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 16, 2007, 08:03:00 PM
                In Reply To #108
 
 Sorry to hear that. Personal issues can be such a bitch and stands in the way of so many good things...
 I don't care what you might think of me, I would have appreciated your insight and participation...
 
 [added Jan 16 2007  3:04PM]
 
 In Reply To #107
 
 I don't know if I've clearified it but real life is in the way right now. Bigtime.
 Like a huuuge effin' wall I need to climb to get anywhere. Patience...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on January 22, 2007, 06:46:00 PM
                STOP FEELING BAD ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS AND DEVLOP THIS PLOT! I NEEEEEED IT! you dont need your legs to type.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 23, 2007, 05:25:00 PM
                In Reply To #110
 
 Need it? Very well. When I'm done watching the documentary about compulsory masturbation or when I'm back from my acupuncture session (whichever comes first) I'll think of something. I've actually had some ideas floating around for a while but haven't acted on them. Your bolded writing expresses a desperation I can't possibly force you to endure...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on January 24, 2007, 01:43:00 AM
                                       

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on January 24, 2007, 04:20:00 AM
                acupuntury!
 
 Be it trues that if buncha painfully electrified needles in the male's pride be pinned an alternative most economic that pill azure can be founds?                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] roolegion on January 24, 2007, 10:13:00 AM
                May this somewhat bored Aussie join in this little chat session ??                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 24, 2007, 09:10:00 PM
                In Reply To #113
 
 Not really. I'd guess that it hurts like hell. And how would you do dirty things with another person when your willie is covered in spikes? Hmm... I guess some people would enjoy it...
 
 None of that going on in my case, though.
 But on that note, I have the pain threshold of a corpse so I don't really feel much of it. I just recognise the feel of it as yet another kind of pain and adapt to it.
 
 As for the bored Aussie, since people aren't posting much I'd like to know your character concept if you're willing.
 Now I'll get to typing. Won't be anything special because the brain is on a hungerstrike but at least things will happen...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on January 24, 2007, 10:59:00 PM
                In Reply To #115
 
Crazy-Legs posted:

 In Reply To #113
 
 As for the bored Aussie, since people aren't posting much

 
 LOL! That's because we're waiting for your input on the story thread! We can't move unless you place in the next scene.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 24, 2007, 11:29:00 PM
                In Reply To #116
 
 Well the next scene will come eventually.
 I have a character of my own to develop, you know. The story and its progress is all in my greasy brain and I'll squeeze out some for you eventually. Story or brain? You decide while I get the salted biscuits... mmm...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on January 24, 2007, 11:32:00 PM
                In Reply To #117
 
 Well don't blame us for not posting much then, if you're going to take time to develop your character.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 25, 2007, 12:06:00 AM
                In Reply To #118
 
 It's all part of the greater plan. The events in my new post will play a part in a coming plot twist (that people will see coming from the other side of space but who cares?).                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on January 25, 2007, 12:35:00 AM
                In Reply To #119
 
 I honestly think you should work out some plot details for us players. I mean...Az and Drahauk are great storytellers, but even they will fail to push the story forwards much if all of us don't have a clue what our characters are meant to do - at least for the next few scenes.
 
 While I respect your wish to keep your plans for the entire plot secret so you can dictate how it all eventually pans out, the actors - that is, us - are struggling because we don't have a script, metaphorically speaking. We should be able to openly discuss this, at least on this thread. But I don't see any discussion of the sort around here. We're all playing by ear.
 
 In my PV Club thread, there are 1 or 2 major plot-movers (Slayden and Azrael predominantly), but this can change depending on the scenario that's happening. Covering Tracks, however...I feel as if we're still left in dark. And it's very hard to come up with our scenes if we don't know what we're expected. It doesn't have to be a point-by-point list of our actions even.
 
 I'm sorry if I sound ignorant of the plot, but I'm still very unclear.
 Who is Mr Brown?
 Who is Katie?
 
 I can play out my own scene but I feel like i'm going around in a circle. I'm not going anywhere with my character. If this keeps up I'm going to have to pull out.
 
 *sigh*
                       

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 25, 2007, 12:41:00 AM
                In Reply To #120
 
 So what would you like to know, then?
 Right now it's the calm before the storm. I'll try to explain whatever it is you want to know but I can only go so far before I spoil the fun...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on January 25, 2007, 12:43:00 AM
                In Reply To #121
 
 Forget it. I'm not in the mood anymore.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 25, 2007, 12:52:00 AM
                In Reply To #122
 
 Well... that was unexpected.
 I'm trying to understand here. Tell me what you need and I'll provide it.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on January 25, 2007, 01:28:00 AM
                if i cant count on you for a plot advancement every three days at LEAST, im gonna get creative on my own, for the sake of poor valoris's sanity, and mine.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 25, 2007, 02:36:00 AM
                In Reply To #124
 
 Oh sure. It's not like I have a life.
 By the way, that wasn't sarcasm...
 
 I'll see what I can do but I'd need to know what you people need to know.
 
 (edit)
 
 So basically, the Council is doing what they can on all fronts to prevent stuff from getting out. Unfortunatly, they weren't quick enough. They've had it easy for much too long and have effectively failed in their duties when it comes to keeping the city safe. The hunters know what's going on and are on their way. Once they arrive and suckers start dying, the ineffectiveness of the Council will be made clear. The hunters will use this to their advantage to eliminate some higher ups and that's all I'll reveal at this time.
 
 The city will turn very unsafe, very fast and the players (whoever is still posting) will have to work together to survive. Aside from being actively hunted, they will have to deal with other troubles that emerge as a result of this. The police will act as a neutral force, providing an obstacle to hunter and vampire alike.
 
 [added Jan 24 2007 11:21PM]
 
 In Reply To #120
 
Valoris posted:

 I'm sorry if I sound ignorant of the plot, but I'm still very unclear.
 Who is Mr Brown?
 Who is Katie?
 
 I can play out my own scene but I feel like i'm going around in a circle. I'm not going anywhere with my character. If this keeps up I'm going to have to pull out.
 

 
 Mr Brown is Nathan Brown. One of the Council members.
 He has sent Azrael and myself to take care of the one responsible for the initial breach, the one who turned the vampire who commited suicide. That responsible party is Kate. Why would Nathan send both at the same time? Well that will become clear later. As for your own side of this, the vampiric community is shaken by the hunter threat. The city has been untouched since the 30's and many younger vampires have no idea on how to react to this. Each part of the city will call it's vampiric citizens to an emergency meeting and that's where I plan for the first hunter strike to occur. Normally, things would happen faster but like I said earlier, the security of the city has stagnated. The hunters have the advantage here.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on January 25, 2007, 10:59:00 AM
                Kate turned someone, a woman(?), into a vampire because she was jealous that the latter was in love with the man Kate adored?
 
 I read your scene but I am still unclear. Though it sounds to me a very shallow reason...what would Kate have to gain by turning her rival into an undead?                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] roolegion on January 25, 2007, 11:05:00 AM
                **I meant "bored", as in my life is boring.  I find this all terribly exciting.  Try selling computers for a living ..!**
 
 Name: Marcus Vettori
 Gender: Male
 Age: 34 (Embraced for 5 years)
 Appearance: Drawn and ghastly, sunken cheeks and an unhealthy pallor with eyes that seem to glint in the dark. Lank blonde hair that drape the skull like last night clothes on the floor.  Thin and taut build, a coiled spring about to explode.
 Possessions: A cramped subway storage closet; a old crowbar ; clothes found by scavenging.
 Personality: Bitter and resentful; waiting for the time to pass the revenge back onto his sire ... oh, I have been putting my time to good use, oh you can bet on that!
 History: It all started as a good deed, to impress that girl .. what was her name again ??  Shelly, Kelly ??  Bloody do-gooder.  
 "Go out, see the real world, do something decent in your life."  
 
 Thanks.  
 
 Mind you, it also seemed like a good idea to my editor as well, sending me undercover, Fletch-like.  Oh well, bonus pay cheque and some quick loving after the deed - got to be happy with that !  Hah.  
 
 I raided the local St. Vincent's rag bin to find my "Bum of the Year" outfit, spent a few days without shaving or showering and headed down to the abandoned subway complex.  The idea was to see how the homeless were coping and what we could do to help them out, all from a bum's perspective.
 
 The hardest part was trying to get their confidence, as I was the "newbie" and why was I here and not somewhere else.  I spun them some tale about spiralling into alcoholism, ex-wife demanding more alimony and those bloody expensive school fees !!  Lost my only job, then contact with my kids - but I could always count on my best mates : Jack, Johnnie and Jim, The Three "J's".
 
 After about a week, I began to hear rumours of abandoned parts of the subway where they refused to go and stay, especially in the rain and cold.  I asked a few questions - the sheer terror in their eyes, as they mentioned the "thing" almost had me convinced that they were right.  Piffle, what would bums know, with their brains swimming in cheap booze and battling senility !  Still, the idea of a "monster" stopping them could be a metaphor of how the homeless are the "thing in the closet" we do not want to open the door to confront.
 
 I am still impressed by that analogy.  Not much makes me smile these nights.
 
 So, I trundled on down, pass the caved in sections and climbed over the broken rafters.  The area, for a bum, was certainly quite good - solid roof, no wind, couple of old storage closets to store your crap in.  Those same closets now store me.  Stupid bums ...
 
 That night I stayed there, to show them that if they could confront this they can move on and help themselves.  Sidling up into an alcove, I sipped on my whiskey bottle (actually, it was a protein shake) and slowly nodded off to sleep.
 
 What was it that made me wake up in the middle of the night, I am still not sure.  Perhaps it was that reptilian part of my brain that is always on alert for danger.  I opened my eyes, wondering at what noise or what thing slithered over me again.  
 
 Then it opened its eyes at me.
 
 "Oh, for Christ's sakes !!  Shit, fucking shit !!!"  I do not know what it was out there in the darkness, about three feet from me but the only thought in my mind was : "Bums are not so stupid after all".  Reptilian brain kicking in, I threw my bottle at it and scrambled up.  A small chuckle was all that I heard before that sweet - so sudden and life changing - kiss descended onto me.  And as I lay there, dying for the first time, it still giggled and smirked at me.  As a final act of desperation, I gave it the finger and said : "Fuck you, you twisted son of a bitch!", before ... emptiness.
 
 A dribble down my neck soon became a sip and then a suckle on the wrist.  Sweet nectar of the gods !!  And then it spoke to me : "I am tired of this life; you had the courage and balls to stand up to me.  For the first time in over fifty years, someone came to me !!"  A laugh echoed out the alcove.
 
 "Now, it is your turn to rule the darkness beneath, Mr Reporter Man !!!"
 
 Five years later, and I still do that, feeding on the same people that I wanted to help, so I could bang that broad and brown nose my boss.  The "thing" still exists but I am now it.  Hard to see me in the dark, reaching out with my mind to find you out there.  A closet as a home to rest, the world thinking that I am dead.  For fuck's sake,  I will get that son-of-a-bitch who made me and I will make him pay.
 
 Meanwhile, the bogeyman still haunts the darkness beneath ...
                       

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 25, 2007, 11:48:00 AM
                In Reply To #126
 
 Who she did isn't as important as what she did.
 The point being, as I was going to explain in one of Lucas' later moments of contemplation, that she fell in love with a mortal who was later wooed by another mortal from Kate's former social circle so she turned the poor guy in a desperate attempt to get him all for herself.
 So he freaked out and fried himself.
 Of course, that's not relevant when compared to the damage this did to the city and Kate is dead anyway...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on January 25, 2007, 12:33:00 PM
                In Reply To #128
 
 Of course it's fuckin' relevant!! We as the actors and players of this story need to know the details of the plot, the background, so we won't keep stumbling around writing the wrong things in our scenes!
 
 One fine example: I had been under the impression that the culprit was a MALE, and not female, and that he had been running for his life down the alley after his victim ran out onto the street and died. THAT'S WHY I wrote my first scene the way I did. Nobody bothered to correct me on this. Nobody is coming out with what's going on. Oh no...it's all secret and so hushed up that we're all expected to sit around in our trailers and do our hair, and be expected to improvise in this movie without a script discussion!
 
 I'm just about a hair's breadth from removing myself from this tale.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on January 25, 2007, 05:10:00 PM
                In Reply To #128
 
Crazy-Legs posted:

  Kate is dead anyway...</quote>
 
 muhuhahahahahahahaaa!
 
 [added Jan 25 2007 12:11PM]
 
 In Reply To #129
 <quote by="Valoris">
 
 
  we're all expected to sit around in our trailers and do our hair

 
 um, sorry, but you can NEVER have enough time to do your hair.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on January 25, 2007, 06:17:00 PM
                In Reply To #130
 
Azrael il Toreador posted:

 um, sorry, but you can NEVER have enough time to do your hair.

 
 N that be precisely the reasons never do I combs!                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] roolegion on January 27, 2007, 12:30:00 PM
                I guess I am not that good in this life either.  No comment at all on my fiction as above ??  
 
 It is okay, I guess I will go back to my mundane life again.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on January 27, 2007, 12:36:00 PM
                In Reply To #132
 
 Actually, Mick, I thought your character biography was brilliant. However, since I am not personally heading this piece of fiction, I felt I had no say. I do think you write excellently though, and look forward to your contribution, if this story moves along at all.
 
                       

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 28, 2007, 12:21:00 PM
                In Reply To #132
 
 Actually, I found it innovative and well written.
 Very nice compared to my own crap. I haven't been able to read the forum much because I'm having serious physical problems to deal with. I'll make a real post when things clear up...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] roolegion on January 29, 2007, 09:22:00 AM
                Oh okay then !!  I came into this discussion after it had been going for awhile - did not read the dates, not realizing how slow it moves !!
 
 Okay then, well, I will keep floating in here then. :-)                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 30, 2007, 02:06:00 PM
                In Reply To #135
 
 Actually, this is the pace I'm used to. I can't keep up with the other stories at all but I might join the club scene someday soon unless it's full.
 
 As for the misuderstanding with the suicide and the mess that came out of it, I'm entirely to blame. I've been stressing myself over this ever since I started and haven't been reading the posts the players have made. Well I've read them but not *properly*. Hence, my own screwup.
 I really want this story to work and I'll try to help in any way I can to make things clearer. Just help me help you and hopefully we'll get someplace where everyone can appreciate the story.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on February 01, 2007, 02:56:00 AM
                YYYYEEEEAAHHHHH BBBOOOOYYYYYY!!!!!!
 
 BASE! How low can you go??                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on February 02, 2007, 05:49:00 AM
                In Reply To #137
 
 And what's that supposed to mean?                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on February 03, 2007, 12:05:00 AM
                its supposed to mean that your players are losing interest in your stagnating snails pace story!                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on February 04, 2007, 08:16:00 AM
                In Reply To #139
 
 Big surprise. Sadly, this is the pace I'm used to and have been using for my other 10+ stories so far. Oh well...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on February 04, 2007, 12:37:00 PM
                Well, you know what, I bet I'm not the only one pretty pissed about committing so much effort into creating our characters for the story, and to have it stagnate to the point of non-existence.
                       

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on February 04, 2007, 09:32:00 PM
                ARRRRR.... MUTINY!                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on February 08, 2007, 04:59:00 AM
                Hi,
 
 I won't be able to carry on with my involvement in Covering Tracks. I'm not happy with the pace it is progressing at, that is to say, I don't even mind if people couldn't post due to a busy schedule or if they were having writer's block (happens to all of us at some point), but even then, I don't get the feeling that my participation is really necessary. I am/was a willing player, but I don't see cohesion or cooperation in this story. Sorry for comparisons but in my thread, players jump in to discuss, rant or, in Az & Slayd's case, banter each other on the pros & cons of the plot so far. I don't see this happening at all here. Heck..I don't see anything happening here at all. I'm disappointed, because I put so much effort into creating my character Mei for this story, yet I get the feeling that nobody's making an effort to include me in so far. But I guess that's my problem to worry about.
 
 Hope there's no hard feelings. I'm sure you can all carry on the story well enough without my character involved anyway.
 
 Cheers.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on February 08, 2007, 01:13:00 PM
                In Reply To #143
 
 I haven't seen much involvement since the start and compared to my other creations so far, I'm quite shocked to see the lack of enthusiasm for the story. I'm used to people PMing me ideas, actively discussing their own ideas for plot development and other things I just havent' seen here. I see roleplays as a group activity that takes commitment and when it comes to the pace, it just works that way. I expect people to write long posts, telling their own little stories to be woven into the plot and including their own characters in their own way.
 
 My own disappointment is beyond anything I can express in words since I've attempted to start this story in two seperate forums with vastly different results. To compare, it worked over there but people were too slow even for my taste, taking weeks to write 10 sentences.
 
 I took the responsibility here to create my own little universe but soon came to realise that demands were much higher among this audience. Probably because I was misusing an already established and beloved concept...
 I see people using terms like Kindred and Embrace out of habit and I accept it.
 
 Everyone is nessecary and I'm really sorry to see you go but I guess it was inevitable. Personally, I'm mentally constipated in a bad case of writer's block despite having many, many pages of ideas tucked away. With people's interest fading, I'm thinking about letting this die off since I'll probably lose all my players before the block loosens up. No amount of pages of ideas or planned plot twists can save a story with no players.
 
 If I were to see any signs of people wanting to present their own input and ideas, I'd be happy to discuss the development but with this silence, it's not possible.
 We could discuss on how to include Mei in a good way, how to handle the hunter situation and even come up with new plot ideas since I value everyone's input. I might even scrap my old story for something everyone would enjoy more.
 I want to run a working story but I need more than "I don't know what to dooo!" if I am to help.
 
 The seemingly chaotic (and outrageous) Clantest a while back was a good example of player cooperation. We PM'd each other ideas, talked about future developments that were never realised (sadly) and adapted to suit each other's ideas. I get the feeling that people aren't enjoying this story enough to care for that kind of thing and if I could save it on my own, I would...
 
 No hard feeling at all. I know why you feel this way and I have no doubts I'd feel the same way in your situation. I screwed up with your ideas earlier and that would make me feel widely ignored and insulted. I wish you the best of luck with your own story and if I ever manage to get this thing running, you're welcome to join in if you feel like it.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Vongetta on February 08, 2007, 01:41:00 PM
                Lack of enthusiasm? Excuse me? I believe Azrael and I were the ones who put up more than a few posts demanding to know why the story hasn't been moving. If that's not enthusiasm in your players, then I don't know what is.
 
 How can you expect us to be involved when you're not even making us feel involved? All you do is say you can't write, and that was about a week or two ago. fine if you're having writer's block or if you're busy or ill. But even before that the story had been stagnating for almost a month. The point is to keep the story afloat. Even if you feel shitty, there are some times when you have to write something..it doesn't matter how small the scene is, or even if it's just filler, it keeps the story going so the rest of us can contribute our part and have fun. I am actively involved in my Club thread but I've not written much so far on my Thief story, yet I know that by the end of this week At LEAST I have to get my lazy ass up and think of something, even if it's just a stupid little inconsequential scene about the 3 thieves.
 
 I think your players are or were willing to be active in discussion, but you weren't laying down the finer points of the plot for us to follow. Hell, you weren't laying down anything for us to follow except for the basic rules. We have no idea what the short-term goals are for the story. We have no idea who is going to do this or that, or at which point in the story timeline we're supposed to do something to trigger an event or whatever. I made a fuss over it because I felt like you were just throwing your portion of the story at us in bits and expecting us to understand what you want us to do, which we obviously don't.
 
 I never received any PMs from you, the author and storyteller of the thread, regarding the story, so I am not surprised that I did not receive any from the other players.
 
 And you complain about our lack of enthusiasm. If I wasn't enthusiastic about the story I wouldn't have bothered with all of this.
 
 I'm outta here.                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on February 08, 2007, 02:14:00 PM
                In Reply To #145
 
 I knew I'd cause an outrage with that statement...
 I admit that my way of handling this could have been better but let's learn from that and work together.
 A new beginning. I urge everyone to share their ideas in the thread and hopefully we'll get somewhere.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on February 08, 2007, 04:53:00 PM
                In Reply To #146
 
 nah im bored with this if vals leaving and slayd boxy and gos arent in it. Tony would make a swell lasombra...                        

 

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Title: Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on February 09, 2007, 10:20:00 AM
                In Reply To #147
 
 I guess it's dead, then.
 I guess I'll just have to focus on the version I got to work...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Covering Tracks Discussion
Post by: [archive] roolegion on February 09, 2007, 10:43:00 AM
                I thought it was fun - did not participate as much as the others though.                        

 

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