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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #90 on: January 03, 2007, 10:19:00 pm »
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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #91 on: January 03, 2007, 11:11:00 pm »
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 It's ok, Az. I'm a bit lost here as well.
 
 Sorry, but the Brujah in me is itching for some action to happen already. It's been weeks and the actual story thread has been stagnating. I know each of us have our separate scenes, but honestly, there is very little progression by way of the actual plot.
 
 I think it would be really helpful if we could all work out some kind of plot "goals"...at least for the time being. Who is doing what, at least, I feel has to be stated. We won't end up so clueless this way. If Az knows who he's after, I'm certain he can write more and move the story further a little bit. Drahauk is doing fine in his progression, whereas myself I'm just...well I know it's not my time yet, but again I feel like I'm sitting in the dark not knowing what the next point in the story is. sad
 
 Scip isn't really involved in this fiction but thanks for sorting out some vagarities here. We defnitely need a few more well-defined rules to progress, I feel. Reason why the PV club thread moves so quickly is because the rules are already there from WoD..and...ok I'll stop lecturing.                        

 

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #92 on: January 04, 2007, 03:02:00 am »
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 I'm not a very good storyteller. I guess I expect too much from people when it comes to creativity. Oh well...
 I leave a lot in the dark because much of it won't be used in this story.
 
 
Scipoten posted:

 Ok so bottom line is disallow it until you approve it. Are your vampires basically left to themselves to discover their powers or are there texts and documents? Remember, you are dealing with a VERY thorough Tremere.
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 The mental powers manifest on their own in those that have an affienty for it. More complicated powers would have to be learned from others. In that regard, yes, there would be documents and historical documents of stranger things happening.
 
 
 
Scipoten posted:

 When you mentioned silver, you said that it works like silver against werewolves, so I'm assuming you have werewolves in your story. Traditional vampire lore states that silver slows down vampires like an allergic reaction, but it does not kill them. Silver nails driven into a coffin will trap the vampire inside as well.
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 Hmm... my shitty English returns to haunt me.
 Werewolves are weak against silver in myth and so are vampires. That's what I meant. As for them being that in this story, I thought about it but haven't decided on it.
 
 
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 What about the Umbra, the spirit world? Demons, nature spirits, and Wraiths reside within it. You will have to at least include Wraiths considering Miyo lives in a haunted house. It can't exactly be "haunted" without a wraith.
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 I guess I misunderstood the bio there. I thought it said that people avoided the lair out of the rumour that it was haunted... I suck at comprehension...
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 So in a roundabout, circling-the-bush sort of way, you are saying vampires DO feel emotion?
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 I see no reason why they shouldn't.
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 You didn't answer my question. Will a baseball bat do a different kind of damage from a knife? What about fire and sunlight?
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 A baseball bat will break a bone, a knife will give a cut. Fire will hurt like fuck and sunlight kills you pretty much instantly.
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 You didn't answer my question. Would the physical sensations of getting drunk on alcohol, high on drugs, pain from poison (even if there is no actual damage) still take place?
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 Nope.
 
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 Like humans, vampires have a nose, and they will stick that nose in places that others may not want them to. And below that nose is a mouth. Anyone with any kind of connections would be able to find out and someone, somewhere will blab, loudly. It is a well known FACT that governments can't keep a secret to save their ass, let alone a secret that would be around this long. There is a saying: "Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
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 Call it the greatest coverup in history, then. Theories abound, naturally. These guys aren't the government. They're ancient vampires with centuries of secrets between them.
 
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 So basically, even if other factions exist, it is irrelevant to this particular chronicle.
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 Bingo and that goes for a lot of what I've written so far.
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 OMG... The political scene IS Elysium. Even in V:TM, the Prince and Primogen could do little against a united Elysium. Not every Elder will be a counsel member. They will come together to pool resources, make friends and enemies, etc. just like Congress or Parliament. The Counsel will have to deal with the Elders as peers due to their EXTENSIVE influence, resources, connections, etc.
 

 
 Okay. I'm a twit.
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 So it identical to the V:TM Camarilla Inner Circle with their Justicars only on a city-scale instead of global.
 

 
 I suppose so.
 
 <quote by="Scipoten">
 You have rolled the duties of Sheriff and Scourge into one when they were kept separate for a reason. The Sheriff is a public figure used to make examples of lawbreakers and to deter others from breaking vamp law by his mere intimidating presence. The Scourge, on the other hand, is completely unknown and is the silent assassin that makes people just disappear, almost always for political reasons.
 

 
 Yeah I mess up a lot, it seems.
 
 What i meant about Gehennastuff is that there's no use for it here in this story and I'll likely not use it.
 
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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #93 on: January 04, 2007, 03:59:00 am »
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    Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
    « Reply #94 on: January 04, 2007, 04:39:00 am »
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    Crazy-Legs posted:

     In Reply To #90
     
     I'm not a very good storyteller. I guess I expect too much from people when it comes to creativity. Oh well...
     I leave a lot in the dark because much of it won't be used in this story.

     
     PLEASE. Don't say that. *sighs* It's YOUR story. Well, at least you were the one whom the idea came off of anyway.
     
     I think we're all pretty enthusiastic about the story, and you should be too. Thing is, it's a little hard for us to keep up the pace if you keep too much to yourself.                        

     

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    Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
    « Reply #95 on: January 04, 2007, 05:09:00 pm »
                    ive been under the assumption that i was more of a sheriff than a scourge...and miyo DID say the hauntedness was rumors generated by her presence in the house, so there neednt be and demons. and stop going on about stats. its not an rp like that, so much as an interactive story (if im understanding CL correctly) and C-L, take it from me, your a just fine story teller...i'm thinking about writing an actual short story for my character i like him so much.                        

     

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    Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
    « Reply #96 on: January 04, 2007, 08:48:00 pm »
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    Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
    « Reply #97 on: January 05, 2007, 02:20:00 am »
                    Ya knows I don t be likins ta say this but teh seceny so far from what yer headbuttin valse with Scippy has led me to discerns (if I can anything at alls!) that evens with a possible lack of concious thouht ya be usin a lot of stuff from the requiem take at the blood bouquet world,Mad motional extremities!
     
     Why not gives it a lookie?
     Me or Scyps or the ancient one,ayes,that unnameable entity sittin behinf each and every written n mistyped word and/or cryptogram in existence can supllies ya the bookies!                        

     

                                                      

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    Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
    « Reply #98 on: January 05, 2007, 06:51:00 pm »
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     i AM a writer scip, and regardless what right have you to say i cant have an opinion of the quality of anothers work? pompous son of a ....                        

     

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    Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
    « Reply #99 on: January 06, 2007, 02:52:00 am »
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    Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
    « Reply #100 on: January 05, 2007, 08:34:00 pm »
                   
     Will read and reply to new posts when I can.
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    Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
    « Reply #101 on: January 08, 2007, 04:41:00 am »
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    Scipoten posted:

     RESISTANCE AND HEALING TIMES. Bashing damage (like from a bat) will bruise but the damage is cut in half. Lethal (like a knife) is suffered as normal. Aggrivated (like fire and sunlight) cannot be resisted at all unless you have Fortitude. Bashing is easy to heal, Leathal is medium, Aggrivated is hard.
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     Jeez... no need to scream.
     Your body takes damage like that of a human but unlike the living, the injuries aren't that likely to kill you since you are already dead. Five shots to the chest will hurt a lot but with no bodily functions you're not very likely to die from it. With the loss of a limb, a large cut or similar injuries you'll bleed and grow weak. Possibly succumbing to the mummification process described on page 1. Death arrives on swift wings if you take enough damage like being cut in half by a roadsign and losing the head is a beloved classic.
     
     You heal up relatively quickly but the hurt will make things difficult. If you're hit by a car and shatter the spine you'll be unable to move and in great pain until the sun comes up and fries you. A lost arm regrows in a week, roughly. Broken bones take about a day and cuts, bruises and gunshots to soft parts close in a few hours.
     Fire leaves mostly superficial injuries that heal like all others but it's really painful and it does have a strong psychological effect. You know, the typical "oh fuck, I'm burning!" effect...
     
     <quote by="Scipoten">
     Umm... Just how big is the rift between the Elders and Neonates? There is a little term called Ancella. The Ancella would find out from the Elders and Neonates would find out from the Ancella. The Ancilla is the usual go-between for the Elders and Neonates. And if you decide not to have Ancella, you will have even greater problems because evey Neonate will be the childe of an Elder, which would need even further explinations (or excuses). Or is the origin of vampires irrelevent? Are there Ancella?
     
     At least tell us if it is a blood-borne curse or it is demonic possession. BTW, is the vampiric powers a result of the power of the strange vitae, or something more along the lines of something closer to demonic possession?
     
     More on the food/drink/drugs. If you drink the blood of a drunk or high mortal, will you feel the effects? And do you puke if you partake of mortal food? Or does it sit in your stomach and do nothing?
     
     Since you haven't ansered what I said about blood bonding other vampires, am I correct to assume that one can bond them?
     
     Considering Azrael's smash-and-crash style, he is a Sheriff and not a Scourge.
     
     And for the factions. It DOES matter in your chronicle. What is the reason for this pseudo-Camarilla? Who do they fight? Why do they exist? Any orgianization without competition will collapse from the inside. If there is no one else, then there would most definately have been an Anarch Revolt, probably several of them by now.

     
     The chain of information would exist but isn't all that relevant to the story. It won't affect the players all that much. The eldest are in charge, the middle aged have their positions and uses and the young u'ns are the peasants of the system. Their creators have a responsibility to monitor their activities for a while after creation and generally keep an eye on them afterwards just in case.
     
     The origin that is kept secret is meant to stretch back a few millenia. In those days, vampirism was a bit more widespread and disorganised, giving base to the old mythology. The origin won't play a part in the story, nor will much of this info but it's pretty neat that I make all this crap up... I was think of making the first vampires into entirely inhuman, supernatural beings giving their 'gift' to humans, making the first typical undead suckers.
     
     Alcy or druggie blood tastes of the drug itself and becomes something of an aquired taste and delicacy for some. The rush isn't there, though. The basic consumption of blood is more than enough. Eating mortal food would be like stuffing a burger into a corpse. Doesn't do anything. If you miss pizza, take a bite and spit it out or you'll have decaying food inside you. Get rid of it by puking if you have to.
     
     If I find it nessecary to include blood bonds, I will.
     
     Opposition to the 'cam' exists but it won't be relevant to the story. I don't know how else to put it...
     
     [added Jan  7 2007 11:43PM]
     
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     Mmm... yes. I've made dozens of other roleplays following different themes but the WoD crowd is a tough audience and requires more thought and planning. I'm not good at that. I'm more of an idea person...                        

     

                                                      

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    Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
    « Reply #102 on: January 08, 2007, 05:04:00 am »
                    Keeps it ups mad motional larger bones!
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    Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
    « Reply #103 on: January 08, 2007, 11:26:00 pm »
                    When you're done with working out the finer points of the story's rules, could you possibly make a new list out? This will make it easier for the players to check against while they write their portions. I think we will need a new list and all that cuz this isn't like WoD and...yeah..we don't really know the ground rules all that much.
     
     Not that I don't grasp what you're discussing but I'd like to get on with the story.                        

     

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    Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
    « Reply #104 on: January 10, 2007, 05:25:00 am »
                   
     Azrael, I've been working on a post but the past few days have been utter hell in all aspects so I haven't gotten around to finishing it. The goal is for it to be a piece of the interrogation and then a minor introduction of the hunters. Patience...                        

     

                                                      

     

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