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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #75 on: December 24, 2006, 01:23:00 am »
                cl im afraid im alightly unclear as to my target. am i after the vampire who commited the breach in the tennants, or am i after the human who witnessed the breach?                        

 

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #76 on: December 24, 2006, 01:31:00 am »
                Actually, I'm a little lost too.
 
 I understand that a vampire was killed outright in the streets, and as such it shocked the public, and there were dozens of Kine witnesses who gathered round and saw a vampire for the first time.
 
 Am I correct in this?
 
 Also, did the vampire end his own life, or was there someone responsible for killing him in the streets? A Hunter, or a Kindred, or what?
 
 I'm really lost here. And as soon as this is cleared up, i'll edit my part of the story to fit.                        

 

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #77 on: December 24, 2006, 08:25:00 am »
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 Bingo. I thought I made that bit clear? I guess I suck.
 Anyway, there was an unsanctioned turning and the "victim" got so freaked out that he ran outside into the dusk and fried on the spot. As a result, a few people saw it and will most likely make it the hottest Youtube item this month. Right now, the Council is busy discussing *everything* even remotely related to the incident and have used their seperate sources to cover it up.
 
 Nathan Brown has sent two of his contacts to interrogate and execute the offender while the other contacts fix the less messy bits like media manipulation and the like.
 
 Of course, in this day and age it's impossible to halt the spreading of the material but it is still possible to direct the way the event is presented to the unknowing sheep of the world. Hunters know what they see when they see it, though and that's something that has to be dealt with as soon as possible.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #78 on: December 24, 2006, 12:08:00 pm »
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 Unsanctioned turning. How does this work in your story? I am just curious to know how long the turning took....i'm picturing, thhe victim and his sire down an alley, he gets bitten, "turns" immediately (with the pain and ecstacy and whatnot), but then freaks out, runs out into the street and dies in the setting sun.
 
 Is this correct? I really need the scenario to be clearer as I am spotting a flaw in my part of the story. My character is a witness to the scene (if you don't already know), but she witnessed it from high up in her apartment. Furthermore she is a vampire and she can spot auras - which is why I need you to clarify things because I've written things about the scene my character witnessed, which I'm not entirely sure is correct with what your scenario of the turning is.                        

 

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #79 on: December 24, 2006, 01:00:00 pm »
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 I'm not sure but didn't I say that it works just like vanilla VtM? All she would have seen would be a terrified person running out from a ground floor apartment into the light and bursting into flame in front of a small number of people that would react accordingly (as in excited yelling, watching in apathy or taking cellphone pictures/videos).                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #80 on: December 25, 2006, 03:42:00 am »
                Right. Thanks for clearing that up. It wasn't too clear in your initial discussion, which is why I'm asking now.                        

 

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #81 on: January 02, 2007, 06:46:00 pm »
               
 I know people are busy but I'm waiting for you...                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #82 on: January 02, 2007, 11:43:00 pm »
                Okay....I understand what you explained earlier. The problem I have now is I have no idea who Azrael is after, and...Drahauk's portion I can grasp, but apart from that, I'm a bit...lost.
 
 Oh god, this is terrible. I've never felt so useless in an RP before LOL!
 
 I think I'll stay in the shadows until I see a point in the story where I can fit in.                        

 

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #83 on: January 02, 2007, 11:45:00 pm »
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Valoris posted:

  I have no idea who Azrael is after
 

 
 no worries, neither do i.                        

 

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #84 on: January 03, 2007, 12:23:00 am »
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 The point right now would be for you to describe what happens in your own little microcosmos as the news of this incident spreads and how you react to these things. What do you do with this knowledge?
 
 As for the person Azrael is after, it's in the folder and I'll bring it up when possible. But I guess personal details aren't what anyone wants so tell me, what's unclear?                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #85 on: January 03, 2007, 12:33:00 am »
                Uhh....did you read my portion of the story so far? I already described my character was witnessing the scene. She was not amongst the Kine crowd down the street however. She saw it from her apartment balcony, and she is Kindred.
 
 I even went as far as to include a hint that she witnessed the "culprit" (the one who turned the victim), but apparently no-one seemed to catch the clue.
 
 I'm not sure I'm going to do anything yet. My character isn't one to poke her nose into things that don't concern her, and if she isn't aproached for help, she prefers to let things lie. It's just the way she is. In her point of view, she has absolutely no idea how much chaos this means for the Kindred society..remember that she herself was turned only a couple of years ago, so she's new to the experience, but not so new that she's a total neonate. It's just the politics and the entire fabric of Kindred society she has no idea of, since she lives in almost seclusion, and tries to live "normally" by working at a tattoo parlour.
 
 Hmm..maybe that didn't come through in my writing clear enough.
 
 I think you should tell us as much as possible what is going on with the plot, at least in this discussion thread. I know you want this to sort of unravel as we go along, but it's not really helping the actual RP-ing. We need to know the script at least a few scenes beforehand so we know what to do in our next posts. Correct me if I'm wrong.
                       

 

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #86 on: January 03, 2007, 01:09:00 am »
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 So she doesn't know the weight of the situation.
 Maybe a sense of uneasiness but then dismissing it as something that will be fixed and then she goes out for a snack? Live her life a bit. The problems will find her soon enough.
 
 What will happen now, if that's okay to tell, will be that I'll put the council in an endless debate, there will be some semi obvious turns for the worse and I'll introduce the hunters. That's all for now, folks.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #87 on: January 03, 2007, 02:16:00 pm »
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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #88 on: January 03, 2007, 03:40:00 pm »
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Scipoten posted:

 I'm starting to become interested in this thread because it levels the playing field. The problem is, NO ONE knows what it going on rather than at least a couple of gurus who have read through rulebooks who know what to do. I have read through every post here and in the main thread and have a rather feeble grasp of the setting. So I have a questions. A lot of them. What and how you answer will be very important to the cohesion of the setting (at least my my mind). I noticed that you have taken a position of V:TM with things cut out rather than starting from scratch...
 
 1. How connected is this pseudo-Camarilla to other cities? What I mean is, if you are a vampire fugitive in one, does it carry over to other cities as well like Masquerade or do the individual cities basically do their own thing apart from the others like Requiem (in my example, you escape one city and are free in another)?
 
 2. What kind of "flair" is allowed? For example, Thaumaturgy, Daimoinon, Obtenebration, Necromancy, Nihilistics, Protean, Melpominee, Vicissitude, etc.? Are you allowing it but we have to clear it with you first? I noticed everyone is primarily going for mental manipulation Disciplines.
 
 3. What other creatures are in your world? You mentioned Inquisitors (that is screaming WoD) and Werewolves. What about Wraiths and Demons?
 
 4. Can vampires feel emotion or are they basically just distant memories?
 
 5. Is there a Humanity/Path scale?
 
 6. Merits and Flaws?
 
 7. Bloodpool/Willpower?
 
 8. Generation?
 
 9. Can vampires be blood bound?
 
 10. Is there a Bashing/Lethal/Aggravated wound damage scale?
 
 11. Can you use Blood Buffs?
 
 12. Can one commit Diablerie?
 
 13. Is there Frenzy or the Rötschreck?
 
 14. What about poisons or drugs? Can your vampires get drunk?
 
 15. What kind of history do your vampires have? Did it start with Caine? Vlad?
 
 16. Are there any other sects as in Sabbat vs. Camarilla but with different names?
 
 17. Are there Elysium rules?
 
 18. What about the Traditions? Do you have a basic set of rules which all vampires follow?
 
 19. Archons and Justicars? Scourges?
 
 20. Is there any form of Gehenna looming in the near-future or is this really an eternal thing?

 
 The cities have their own histories and circustance has shaped them and their inhabitants. I've kept a lot in the dark intentionally but basically it's like this:
 The Old World with Europe mostly has a very strong and organised vampire presence. More strict and controlled like a more opressive Camarilla but most vampires over there are very old and recognise the need for that kind of control. The Old World is ruled by the Council of Elders who are in essence, the eldest of their kind, hiding away in an undisclosed location in Eastern Europe.
 The cities in the New World are pretty much colonies for a budding immigration of suckers. It's a slow process and until the "colonies" are ready to be knit together into the web of control already established in Europe, the colonies/cities are individually controlled by relatively old vampires appointed as representatives by their European masters. Mini councils governing their seperate colonies under some common laws but as of now, they are pretty much self contained. However, if you fuck up and become wanted, you disappear. The cities remain in touch with each other and an offender is unlikely to be able to bounce between cities, raising hell.
 
 The vampy powers manifest in many, many ways and the mental things are pretty much the stuff that usually manifests. Like a human learning to walk or speak. More exotic powers would be comparable to learning things outside nature like a child learning to read. I'd have to check and approve any exotic ideas, yes but we're talking supernatural beings here so creativeness could be okay.
 
 I don't know when I mentioned werewolves but the hunters operate out of the Vatican and are composed of everything from mercenaries to the classic nun with a gun. They're paid for each confirmed kill and move through the country, constantly looking for signs of the 'spawn of Satan'.
 Their talents vary from elite soldiers to beginners with a van and a stake. I wrote a rather complicated introduction to these things earlier but I can't be bothered to dig it up. 4+ pages. Suffice to say that they have their own ways of covering up their kills and they remain just as hidden as their immortal enemies.
 I don't know enough about the classic Wraith and Demon things to elaborate, though. If I find reason to include them, I can think of something.
 
 Emotions are complicated to define. Even detachment has basis in emotions and after studying so much psychology, I find it hard to imagine ambition, intriuge and motivation to unlive without any sign of human emotions. A being without emotion is a dead, stagnant being with no ability to exist and even vampires live.
 
 Humanity is a human thing. Who judges what is right and wrong and where does depravity turn into animal urges?
 A sentient being forms its own values but if the lack of 'humanity' endangers the safety of a city, the wicked one can expect a swift execution.
 
 You have your own merits and flaws. Or rather, they're in effect but they're all parts of the human the vampire once was. Mental, physical and social abilities carries over and like all other former humans, you were shaped by life.
 I've read these things and they all describe aspects of a being. You are who you are. The rulebooks are made to allow you to create another being with its own past, present and future. If you're empathic or cruel, walk with a limp or have a habit of solving arguments with your fists, it's just you.
 
 We don't use stats here. It's meant to be a story told cooperatively. You have as much blood in you as you borrowed last night and you're as headstrong as your background allows.
 
 I haven't planned anything generationwise.
 
 When it comes to blood bonds, I haven't considered it all that much. Sharing blood would be a thing done in trust and I guess it could have an intimate meaning and feeding always feels nice. But bonding? Haven't thought of a good reason to include it, to be honest.
 
 No damage scale. No stats. If you lose a finger, you lose a finger. Vampiric strength inspires confidence when fighting puny mortals and regeneration is a bonus, though so the vampire usually has an edge over the human every time.
 
 Diablerie could exist in theory but it'd be rare just as human cannibalism. Like those other things, I'd need a good reason to include it before making up rules for it.
 
 Frenzy does exist but is based in the desire to feed. A starved vampire loses more and more control until it reverts to the animal stage, hunting until well fed. At that point, sanity returns but they might have to live with the guilt of having turned a small apartment into a slaughterhouse...
 
 Rötschreck... well fire has been a classic vampire bane for centuries so they'd naturally fear it just like any human. The panic that is Rötschreck seems a bit hard to implement, though considering the problems I've seen already in vanilla VtM.
 
 Vampire bodies are dead so poison wouldn't do much to them.
 Alcohol tastes like it always did so you could enjoy it but it doesn't compare to blood.
 
 The Elder Council knows the origin of vampirism but keeps it a secret to avoid paranoia, egoism, panic or just plain confusion. They are the eldest and have by all accounts been around since before the Dark Ages at least but humans have been talking about vampires for thousands of years...
 Vampire society at large lacks the maturity to deal with the truth at this point.
 
 Sabbat, Anarchs and such could exist in theory but I'd need a reason to include them. Hawkport is a 'cammie' city and whatever passes for anarchs were either executed or chased off decades ago. Wether or not their ideas have prevailed somewhere else remains to be seen, I guess.
 
 Elysium could exist. No one really get close enough to harm the Council but general safe havens for vampires could exist. Still, I'd need a reason to include it in the story.
 
 The first Tradition is common sense.
 Number three, four and six are in effect as well but in a different wording.
 
 Political positions exist but works differently. Each Council member has a representative that handles the surface of things while the Council is pretty much the inner circle that makes the major decisions.
 The scourge is composed of hitmen like Azrael's character.
 Each member has someone to do the dirty work.
 
 And you don't have to worry about any sort of Gehenna right now, at least.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Covering Tracks Discussion
« Reply #89 on: January 03, 2007, 09:48:00 pm »
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 Fuck it.                        

 

                                                  

 

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