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Bloodlines Tech Support / Re: Problems with wine 3.6
« Last post by deicide on Today at 08:30:23 PM »
Seems like some libraries that were updated along with them are the culprit.
That's how I always felt.
I think the best turning point would be after learning about his desperate alliance with Ming Xiao. Either patch up his relations with Anarchs or blackmail him. Anarchs would have surely appreciated some extra firepower in retaking the Chinatown (at least PC, Sheriff and LaCroix himself) and two contenders less (Strauss will be undermined as a result). Should he remain unconvinced, he will seemingly agree yet still try werewolves.
More elaborate plot could involve double-crossing Ming by tricking her into thinking that assassination attempt against PC and Nines was successful.

By the way, the latter is what I've used for post-Bloodlines themed tabletop campaign where LaCroix was the baron of Chinatown, except PC's story haven't happened and LaCroix had came up with that by himself.
Bloodlines Tech Support / Re: Problems with wine 3.6
« Last post by chv on Today at 07:36:40 PM »
Hello everybody,

I should probably gvie an update on this.

As it turns out I am no longer able to reproduce the configuration in which the original vampire.exe is working with any wine version. Regardless of wine version (tested 1.6, 1.8, 3.0 and 3.6) and videomemorysize setting in wine it always runs out of opengl memory ("GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY"). I notice that the VSZ size of vampire.exe ist around 3.1 GByte and the RSS ist something like 300 MByte.

Anyway, something has changed on my machine as I can be sure from file creation times that it was working with jessie (wine 1.6) and directly after the upgrade to stretch with wine 1.8. After that there was a kernel and a compiler update. I tested the old kernel but without success and I see no way to downgrade the compiler.

This is of course extremly irritating and I am feeling a bit dumb for jumping the gun and assuming it was a wine version related problem alone :-)

But finally the good news: The modified vampire.exe with the LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE flag set in the header continues to work for me.
Interestingly it uses only VSZ 2.2 GByte and RSS 688 MByte (after successfull load). I might try to find out what exactly it loaded compared to the failing original vampire.exe.

Any ideas concerning this ?

For now you can probably assume it is an isolated problem.

Best Regards
Bloodlines Games General Discussion / Re: Alistair Grout's Wife
« Last post by DiamondBorne on Today at 05:04:59 AM »
Finding both Mr. and Mrs. Grout alive would still makes more sense than having her jump out and attack you.

In game explanation is that Mrs. Grout was long dead and that the measure Dr. Grout implemented to save her from her Illness was nothing more than an embalming fluid. the Illness was death and decay itself because Malkavian insanity makes him view them as such.

In my head-canon however they both survived and faked their deaths. the dust sprinkled bones in the master bedroom is just one of Grout's patient and 'Mrs. Grout' in a jar is a mannequin. Think about it, Grout already fully learned of his conditions and the man REALLY loves his wife, would he not turned her? And Malkavian Madness actually for once, gifted him with accurate prophetic vision, that means he foresaw his own death and his fortress wasn't enough to protect him, why would he still hide there?
A shame to the clan.
Doesn't know how to behave.

He's secretly an Anarch at heart  :rofl: Interesting theory eh? He obviously does not like his clan at all when we brings up his rebirth topic, Clan Ventrue takes pride in their lineage and shows off to everybody at any given opportunity, Surprisingly he has few words for them which is uncharacteristic for Ventrue as mentioned earlier.

About a way to non-lethally deal with Lacroix. If we goes by the 'classic' root of Troika-Black Isle RPG style. We actually COULD convince Lacroix to stop being stupid for once. Namely with persuasion and intimidation 10, we bluntly ask that he stop sending an unstopable terminator with inexplicable stat boost to die repeatedly and instead 'acknowledge' our capabilities and ask our permission to form an alliance. With the 'better man' at the helm of the relationship. (us players obviously  :smile:) and Voila! Lacroix happy ending route.

It's not that impossible or borderline fan-fiction at all. Lacroix is an obviously smart man. But He's just too young and has to go against many veterans such as Jack and all the crafty primogens. Nines who's much younger but with field experience going through the roof. and no less than three unknown variables: the Kuei-Jin, Beckett and the Nosferatu. He just can't take all the heat and too mentally broke down to think straight. I for one, pity his situation.
Bloodlines Tech Support / Re: Unofficial Patch 10.0 released!
« Last post by DDLullu on April 22, 2018, 11:28:49 PM »
Some pictures to show the differences:
Bloodlines Tech Support / Re: Unofficial Patch 10.0 released!
« Last post by Wesp5 on April 22, 2018, 10:00:42 PM »
It's me again, i have make some changes in some models that can be useful for the UP or for any mods using the patch.

Many thanks, I'll include most of them in the next patch release candidate!

First, Lacroix: his eyes poke through his skin, in the theatre it's very apparent. I push his eyes, problem solve.
Julius, same as Lacroix,  i push his eyes because they show trough the skin (it's difficult to see but when the fire light well his face we can see it.)
Carson and Yuki show some white when they speak. Repair the UV for them, look good now.

The curtains in the theatre, well yesterday i flat them (it was about time i do it) so it's more fun to walk in the catwalk.

Pretty much never noticed anything there, but included nevertheless!

I make the Pearl of Dubai and the ugly thing from the tsimisce animate when you look at them in inventory.

Wonderful, included!

I have include the texture for the cigar so it will light (no color) in the theatre.

Included, although I barely see a difference.

I have also include the mdl and texture for the cigar in the theatre.

That's the only thing I won't include because I don't like it.

Oh and last must but not least Venus: I dont know if you remember the video when they show a scene censored with her, well i restore it. When you will speak with her you will have a chance(or two) to see it in the patch.

Great! I restored her hand movement a long time ago, but the... reaction was never correct ;), now it is. Many thanks!
Bloodlines Tech Support / Re: Problems with wine 3.6
« Last post by chv on April 22, 2018, 07:39:00 PM »
Hello Wesp5,

yes, I am reasonably sure this is something new in wine. I just wanted to inform people about it as I assume most do not use wine, but if you do this is a bad surprise.

I have export WINEDLLOVERRIDES="dbghelp=n,b"
and run with "wine vampire.exe -game Unofficial_Patch -window", we already discussed this related to less obvious problems before :-) This is not the real loader, but I believe it catches the essentials. This is the same installation as it was some months ago (I will try the new version 10 of the Unofficial Patch of course in the near future).

As written in the wine bug report, it worked without a hitch with wine 1.6 and 1.8. Changing the binaries flags fixes the crash.

Thank you for your interest !

Best Regards
Bloodlines Tech Support / Re: Problems with wine 3.6
« Last post by Wesp5 on April 22, 2018, 04:46:00 PM »
Have you already tried the Unofficial Patch and if that didn't work as such, the linux loader script now to be found in the main game folder?
Bloodlines Tech Support / Re: Unofficial Patch 10.0 released!
« Last post by The Shadow Man on April 22, 2018, 04:25:41 PM »
Bloodlines really always has more things to fix, good work  Offline DDLullu. Venus had something censored?
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