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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Signothorn on January 22, 2007, 08:18:00 AM
                This trivia episode is 3 part:
 
 1. Which clan(s) show up in Redemption, but are absent in Bloodlines?
 
 2. Which clan(s) show up in Bloodlines, but are absent in Redemption?
 
 3. Which clan(s) are absent in both games?
 
 And for extra credit, include any relevant bloodlines in your answer.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 22, 2007, 11:21:00 AM
                In Reply To #1
 1)Cappadocian
 Followers of Set
 Assamite
 
 2)none of the 13 major clans... so unless you count caitiff.
 
 3)ravanos, salubri
 
 there are lasombra in the sabbat hotel downtown, though im not sure if you want to count those 3.
 
 the bloodlines, there is prisha, the naga- something, i dont remember the spelling. it is the one that eats flesh. does not appear in redemption.
 
 if memory serves me, the shriff is a tzimisce offshoot from africa.
 
 are we counting gargouals as a caln... well, they are in both so it doesnt matter.
 
 tis possible i missed something
 
 
 [added Jan 22 2007  6:24AM]
 
 
 oh, i included the 7 camarilla clan's on the bloodlines count, as you can play them
 
 and im assuming that you are not including the cathayans                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on January 22, 2007, 01:47:00 PM
                Sheriff bes Nagloper (I think I heards it be an african bloodline o the tzimmies)
 Pisha be Nicktutu (as in Nick be wearing a Tutu!)
                       

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Skyra_to_Hollow on January 22, 2007, 02:14:00 PM
                So far so good, guys.  I could be suffering brain damage, but I don't remember any Lasombra in the Hollowbrook Hotel.  Do elaborate!
 
 Also, there is one clan or bloodline that I expect the vast majority of players to miss.
 ...which one, which one?                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Dante_Malice on January 22, 2007, 02:35:00 PM
                In Reply To #4
 
Skyra to Hollow posted:

 So far so good, guys.  I could be suffering brain damage, but I don't remember any Lasombra in the Hollowbrook Hotel.  Do elaborate!</quote>
 
 Could referring to the guy at the top of the stairs, not sure though...
 
 <quote by="Skyra to Hollow">Also, there is one clan or bloodline that I expect the vast majority of players to miss.
 ...which one, which one?

 
 Miss how? You mean forget about?
 
 Samedi, Daughters of Cacophany.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 22, 2007, 09:21:00 PM
                In Reply To #4
 heh, well, havent played in ages.
 
 but, i do remember that there is a large room with 3 teleporting guys. (didnt notice it myself as i tend to like sneaking up behind them and running them through.
 
 but i picked up the official walk through one day and was having a flip through... think i was board and waiting to meet someone, but i flipped to the hollow brook hotel and saw the word lasombra and started reading.
 so i went back and ran in to the room and sure enough these 3 guys would disappear in a kind of black cloud and be on the other side of the room whenever you got close to them. this power was explained of as shadow step (name?) the level 6 power that lets those that wield obtenebration use shadow as a mode of transport in the book.
 
 i was rather disappointed that the only fight three 7th gen lasombra put up was in the bit where they ran away.
 
 oh, and i do believe that gostro got the bloodlines mixed up. prisha is the nagloper. they eat flesh.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on January 23, 2007, 04:26:00 AM
                Oh yeahs,oopsies!hehehes
 
 There be some tzimmie bloodline o the ebony lands that I be thinkin the sheriff be comins froms!                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Skyra_to_Hollow on January 23, 2007, 04:01:00 PM
                In Reply To #6
 Fascinating.  Despite multiple playthroughs, I never saw them use Shadow Step...probably because my preferred weapon at that point was always the Steyr Aug.
 
 Pisha is Nagaraja, a bloodline rumored to have been accidentally created by the Euthanatos Mage tradition (ala the Tremere).  They also have connections with Wraiths and even Mummies.  I still think she's one of Troika's best-written characters, and one that stays very true to White Wolf's original vision of the bloodline.
 
 The Sheriff is most likely a Nagloper, which is a Laibon (Ebony Kingdom) legacy of the Eldest One and his descendents, the Tzimisce.  The cold war between the Ventrue and the Guruhi could easily have led an outcast Nagloper to seek shelter from the Guruhi by leaving Africa under the protection of an ambitious Ventrue (LaCroix).  Like all Laibon, the Sheriff is more or less unbound by the constraints of Humanity, making him the perfect man for the job.
 
 And since you guys are building upon one another's insights, I'll change the rules up a bit.  The trivia winner will be the person who identifies and places the one super obscure vampire clan or bloodline that shows up in one game, but not the other.  It's even mentioned by name, leaving no doubt as to its identity.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Dante_Malice on January 23, 2007, 05:06:00 PM
                In Reply To #8
 Baali? (I`m just gonna throw out Clan names until someone gets it)                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 23, 2007, 10:07:00 PM
                In Reply To #8
 i knew there was a j in there... i should have just checked a book.
                       

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on January 23, 2007, 05:10:00 PM
                PLease be it not the kyasid or those egyptian fellers o isis!                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 23, 2007, 10:19:00 PM
                In Reply To #8
 
 Redemption?
 The Assamite hiding out in the shape of a British Brujah (Pink), intending to assassinate that fat Giovannifellow?
 Not super obscure so I'm wrong but it was fun to guess.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 23, 2007, 10:41:00 PM
                In Reply To #12
 wait.... its not like the sabbat nosferatu from redemption is it. techinicaly he is of a bloodline, and they are not in bloodlines
 or is it the true brujah that they botched up in redemption?
 
 [added Jan 23 2007  5:45PM]
 
 
 orsi was pure ventrue yes?....
 then he joined the sabbat.
 
 gahhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
 im missing a character!!!!                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Skyra_to_Hollow on January 24, 2007, 02:45:00 PM
                In Reply To #13
 Dante: The Baali aren't in either PC game.  I see that as a good thing, since they are one of the bloodlines that are mangled (from a Storytelling standpoint) most often.
 
 Gostro: I think you're referring to the Children of Osiris, which don't show up either.
 
 Arathalion: Good guess about the Trujah, but that would be too obvious.
 
 A word on Antitribu: unless they have a Path of Enlightenment, a Discipline, or a clan weakness different from their parent clan, it's hard to justify calling them a distinct bloodline.  The one I'm talking about is one so "out there" that most Cainites would be incredulous about whether they existed at all.  The few Cainites who know about them wisely avoid them like the plague...unless of course they have some special arrangement from some ancient alliance.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Dante_Malice on January 24, 2007, 03:15:00 PM
                In Reply To #14
 
Skyra to Hollow posted:

 In Reply To #13
 Dante: The Baali aren't in either PC game.

 
 Shows how long it`s been since I played Redemption, I can`t even remember the later parts of the game at all.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on January 24, 2007, 03:47:00 PM
                Capadoccian the right answer be nots methinks...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 24, 2007, 11:10:00 PM
                In Reply To #14
 
 Pisha the Nagaraja?
 Naah... can't be. Oh well. I'll keep trying.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 25, 2007, 01:09:00 AM
                In Reply To #14
 avoid like the plague hay?
 
 now im thinking one of the plague bearers of the ninth circle in bloodlines.
 
 what where there clans again....
 
 meh, id have to play again.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on January 25, 2007, 03:57:00 AM
                If Kate-Caitiff?                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Skyra_to_Hollow on January 25, 2007, 11:19:00 AM
                Combine #16 and #18, and you're getting warmer.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Skinweaver on January 25, 2007, 11:39:00 AM
                In Reply To #20
 
 Samedi? No frickin' idea where they're mentioned, though...
 Doesn't matter since guessing is fun.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on January 25, 2007, 12:15:00 PM
                Bringers of Har har skulls?
  or the faithful of the red headed amorphpos god?
 
 [added Jan 25 2007  7:16AM]
 
 The fatherless children of zapathazura
 
 The Kyasid be not I hopes...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 25, 2007, 08:28:00 PM
                In Reply To #22
 to make gostros post clearerer, harbingers of skulls... but i dont remember them being in there.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Skyra_to_Hollow on January 26, 2007, 06:47:00 AM
                Kyasidh: 300 years studying Fae lore will fuck you something fierce.
 
 Harbingers of Skulls: 600 years trapped in the Tempest will fuck you up even more.
 
 Samedi: great fun, but these fellas didn't show up in the games either.
 
 The bloodline in question makes all those guys seem downright mainstream by comparison.  Another hint: although the mystery group is called by name and you get to actually see one of their members, she (presumably female, it's hard to tell) doesn't deliver any lines, and I wouldn't even really call her a character either.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 26, 2007, 07:32:00 AM
                In Reply To #24
 oh dear... i really should know this. now ive got that nagging feeling that you get when you cant quite place something.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Kerensky-san on January 27, 2007, 01:16:00 PM
                In Reply To #25
 Laibon perhaps?  Or even more eldrich and unknown...Tlacique?
 
 Is that what you're looking for Skyra?  By the way, long time no see....good to see you're still keeping the faith.
 
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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Skyra_to_Hollow on January 27, 2007, 03:28:00 PM
                In Reply To #26
 Ah, the good old Tlacique (and I do mean OLD!).  They're a great concept, though it's a shame White Wolf took so long to recognize the need for a well-written Central American bloodline.
 
 On 3 occasions I've attempted to introduce the Tlacique into a chronicle: one online and twice in LARP.  The first two times they were shunned because the other players (ergo their characters) were ethnocentric dipshits and had no interest in interacting with "that Mexican guy, or whatever he is."  The third time it actually worked out pretty well.  A pair of theologically-minded American Malkavians took a trip down to Rio to study ritualistic ancient societies.  Their poking around attracted the attention of Tlacique elder who survived the Sabbat inquisition.  The elder sent his recently-embraced childe to contact the player characters, and they established relations.  After a few weeks of discussions about the history of the species, the 8th Neonate accompanied the Malkavians back to the US.  Despite being well educated, he had never left South America, so he ended up being a great "fish out of water" character: just the right amount of mirth and inquisitiveness.  But he also illustrated the dangers of the first world, making the characters (and players) recognize all of the things that they do to survive.  This forced them to acknowledge all of the aspects of humanity that they had lost, perhaps without realizing it.
 [/memorylane]
 
 But anyway, the Tlacique do not show up in either Redemption or Bloodlines.  That's probably a good thing, though: I can't think of any plausible contributions they could have made, given those games' story arcs.
 
 The one I'm looking for is...think of it as a (hopefully) extinct bloodline of a clan that is itself extinct for all practical purposes.  They were oddly guilible in their time.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 27, 2007, 10:05:00 PM
                In Reply To #27
 the salubri antitribu?
 
 that seems... when?                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] ElGostro on January 27, 2007, 11:19:00 PM
                OH they be showin ups in  the bookie a world o darkness fer VTM,but I don t be thinkins one any used ems!                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 27, 2007, 11:42:00 PM
                In Reply To #29
 hence my confusion.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Azraelthe7thMurderer on January 29, 2007, 04:39:00 PM
                All I can think of is Old Clan Tzimice or Laibon.  Although both are merely mentionned (to the best of my recollection).
 
 Or are you speaking of Lucretia?  Although, I don't think she was what you'd call "a vampire".                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 29, 2007, 10:42:00 PM
                In Reply To #31
 lucrica says stuff, so no                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Skyra_to_Hollow on January 30, 2007, 07:38:00 AM
                In Reply To #32
 Lucretia was a Follower of Set.  She was a horribly cliched, horribly dressed, undisciplined, unbelievably bad example of what a Setite elder should be.  I mean come on...who the fuck hisses when they talk!?!  And...a brothel?  I'm not even going to get started on that one.  I'm pretty sure she was the undead inspiration for Lisping Lisa.  Oh wait...there already is an undead version of Lisping Lisa (aka "Thundercunt").  But...what about her makes you wonder whether or not she was a vampire?                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 30, 2007, 08:13:00 AM
                In Reply To #33
 ... oh, no i was thinking of labussa, yeah, settitesa hiss when the speak, says so on page 1/0 of how to fuck up your  characters.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] rumenpi on January 30, 2007, 02:31:00 PM
                In Reply To #34
 Hi, It's been years since I last posted here!
 
 Would that be the Lamia? There was this key to Mercurio's room in Garinol's layer, but that one was hardly a character. Otherwise, Lamia are a Cappadocian bloodline.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Skyra_to_Hollow on January 30, 2007, 03:12:00 PM
                In Reply To #35
 DING DING DING!!  And rumenpi steps out of the mists of morpheus to correctly answer this brain-buster.
 
 I tried dropping hints here and there, such as...
 - "avoid them like the plague" (they're virulent disease carriers)
 - "oddly guilible in their time" (that's how Christof described their parent clan)
 - "most Kindred would be incredulous of their existence" (Christof laughed and commented "what manner of beast wore this skull upon its neck?")
 - "is mentioned by name" (Garinol wrote in his journal that he could crack the seal on Mercurio's haven using his annointed skull of the Lamia)
 - "isn't really a character, and has no lines" (it's dead)
 - "can't tell if it's male or female, but probably female (again it's dead, but most Lamia were female)
 
 There were a lot of good guesses thrown in there; we got to talk about quite a few obscure factions and bloodlines happy                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Javokis on January 30, 2007, 03:39:00 PM
                In Reply To #36
 
 I knew that from the first page.... urm... I just wanted someone ELSE to say it. :P                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 30, 2007, 10:45:00 PM
                In Reply To #37
 lol
 ahh, nice question their. i never even thought about that.                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Azraelthe7thMurderer on January 31, 2007, 12:00:00 AM
                In Reply To #38
 
 Funny that, I thought "Lamia" and typed "Laibon".
 
 It appears that sleep is indeed good sometimes.
 
 And I thought of Libussa but remembered only Lucretia.
 
 It's been ages since the last time I played Redemption.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] arathalion_5 on January 31, 2007, 12:18:00 AM
                In Reply To #39
 the labion are a gangrel offshoot yes?                        

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] Azraelthe7thMurderer on February 02, 2007, 12:32:00 AM
                In Reply To #40
 If I remember correctly, they started out as a Gangrel bloodline, but the name then became the common name for African Kindred.
 
 Then again, I can't confirm this due to my giving away my copy of Kindred of the Ebony Kingdom some two years ago.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: [archive] viivrabe on March 23, 2007, 07:12:00 PM
                In Reply To #1
 with out looking at anny one elses ansers
 
 1.assimite,  worshipers of set and capadotions
 
 2um i cant think of anny
 
 3salubri ravinous
 
 forgive the spelling
 
 
 
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  um it just hit me
 
 maby thinbloods,
 do kui-jin count
                       

 

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Title: Re: Official PlanetVampire Trivia Episode 5 - "Brujah and Ventrue, and Malks, Oh My"
Post by: Rick Gentle on September 05, 2011, 09:48:34 AM
Awww... I was guessing "Tal'Mahe'Rah" all throughout the obscure bloodline quiz, though I suppose that's more of a super-secret organization than an actual bloodline.

As a note, a lamia is also an "actual" mythological creature, not just a Masquerade bloodline. Persian/Middle Eastern monster. Also helps explain the shape of the skull, as the Cappdocian Lamia were all humanish. (One shows up in Dark Ages: Cappadocian as Constancia's bodyguard.) It'd be a little anachronistic for a Cappadocian to have a Lamian skull, anyway - they only turn cannibalistic after they Embrace the Giovanni and suffer the Feast of Folly.
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