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Offline [archive] Drewtah

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Re: Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
« on: October 29, 2002, 09:52:00 AM »
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  •                 When did Tremere diablerise Saulot (BC or AD)?
     What was Tremere before this (a hermetic mage?)?
     (approximately) How many Salubri are in existence around the time the start of the computer game is set (1200s)?
     Are they all wiped out by the modern day?
     What parts of the world would you find Salubri in the dark ages?
     
     Please tell me your sources (ie what book I can find the info in).
     
     Oh yeah, off the topic, but whats the deal with fae creatures?                        

     

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    Re: Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
    « Reply #1 on: October 29, 2002, 06:59:00 PM »
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     The Fae:
     
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    Offline [archive] Archangel18468368

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    Re: Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
    « Reply #2 on: October 30, 2002, 09:34:00 PM »
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     1) Tremere diablorised Salout in the dark ages, around the time that Redemption is set in, which is why the others clans don't particularly like them.
     2) Tremere was a mage of the order of hermes, as were most of the original tremere vampires.
     3) I don't know how many Salubri there were in the dark ages, but I beleive (and don't hold me to this) there are 7 in modern day times, and there always will be 7, because when a Salubri reaches Golconda, he sires a childe and the child then diablerises him, so that then his soul can go on to the afterlife (I think...)
     Thats what I heard anyway, but a friend of mine has found almost all things VTM somewhere online, so I think it's right.
     Once again, though, don't hold me to it, I may not be as accurate as I should be, I'm not sure.                        

     

                                                      

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    Re: Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
    « Reply #3 on: November 01, 2002, 11:32:00 AM »
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    Archangel posted:

     1) Tremere diablorised Salout in the dark ages, around the time that Redemption is set in, which is why the others clans don't particularly like them.
     
     <blue>Yeah, I think the year is 800 or so.</blue>
     
     2) Tremere was a mage of the order of hermes, as were most of the original tremere vampires.
     
     <blue>Cabal of Hermites who found a sleeping Methuselah, (if I remember correctly), and found the secret of immortality, but destroying it in the process.</blue>
     
                           

     

                                                      

    Offline [archive] Hobonegro

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    Re: Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
    « Reply #4 on: October 17, 2004, 02:46:00 PM »
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  •                 When did Tremere diablerise Saulot (BC or AD)?
     What was Tremere before this (a hermetic mage?)?
     (approximately) How many Salubri are in existence around the time the start of the computer game is set (1200s)?
     Are they all wiped out by the modern day?
     What parts of the world would you find Salubri in the dark ages?
     
     Please tell me your sources (ie what book I can find the info in).
     
     Oh yeah, off the topic, but whats the deal with fae creatures?
                           

     

                                                      

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    Re: Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
    « Reply #5 on: December 01, 2004, 11:16:00 PM »
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    Drewtah posted:

     When did Tremere diablerise Saulot (BC or AD)?
     What was Tremere before this (a hermetic mage?)?
     (approximately) How many Salubri are in existence around the time the start of the computer game is set (1200s)?
     Are they all wiped out by the modern day?
     What parts of the world would you find Salubri in the dark ages?
     
     Please tell me your sources (ie what book I can find the info in).
     
     Oh yeah, off the topic, but whats the deal with fae creatures?

     
     It's a common mistake many people make...the Tremere did not diablerize Saulot to first gain their powers, although they did do this later on.
     
     In 1022, they slew a Tzimisce elder, and vivisected two apprenctice magi who were Embraced.  From these foul experiments, Tremere created a potion that allowed him, and 7 others, to become vampires.
     
     Realizing they were still weak, they hunted down the easiest kill they could find...Saulot, the founder of the Salubri bloodline.  They diablerized him in his sleep, but, Saulot did not resist, even though his third eye gazed at them as they drank his blood.
     
     The Salubri, in the Dark Ages, live in monastaries or convents.  They also live among the Jews, Muslims, Templars, and Manichaeans.  Some choose to be alone, feeding off of animals.  They often wear hoods and veils, to cover their third eye.
     
     After Tremere destroyed their leader, and lied about the true ways of the Salubri, they were forced to scatter all across Europe.
     
     7 survived until modern times.                        

     

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    Re: Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
    « Reply #6 on: December 02, 2004, 11:16:00 PM »
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     And not the same 7. When one would be embraced, her sire would willingly be diablerized by the childe.
     
     On a side note, later on Saulot took control of Tremere's body, which forced him into the body of Goratrix, and Goratrix into a mirror.
     
     Fun stuff, that diablerie.                        

     

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    Re: Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
    « Reply #7 on: December 03, 2004, 06:28:00 PM »
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  •                 I think the year the Tremere diablerized Saulot was 1088.  Not sure if it's in Clanbook:Tremere or the House of Tremere book.  I don't have any of my books with me now or I'd check.
                           

     

                                                      

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    Re: Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
    « Reply #8 on: December 13, 2004, 12:52:00 AM »
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     There are also Salbri antitribu among the Sabbat.  They resemble the warrior Salubri and are mostly of higher generation.                        

     

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    Offline [archive] Barbarossa33279234

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    Re: Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
    « Reply #9 on: January 24, 2005, 09:34:00 PM »
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     Trememe chose Saulot because he was in torpor and therefore an easier target.  His generation at the time was fifth or fourth already.  As we learned from the example of Mithras, consuming an extremely powerful elder can lower a weaker Cainite several generations.  So if an 11th generation can become 6th from diablerizing a methuselah, how much more so for diablerizing an antedeluvian?                        

     

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    Re: Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
    « Reply #10 on: July 07, 2005, 04:02:00 AM »
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     then there's the HUGE jump into Dark Ages Fae, which make them more powerful than mages....and destroys all changeling storyline...gar.                        

     

                                                      

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    Re: Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
    « Reply #11 on: January 20, 2005, 12:47:00 AM »
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     I thought the Tremere ate the Elders to get enough power to take on an Antediluvian in order to become a clan and thus accepted by other kindred and powerful enough to fend them off (Especially the Tzimisce because of the blood theft).
     Can't remember where I got this from - I read it 3-4 years ago.
     
     Regarding Fae - They're called Changelings/Kithain/Faeries.
     Do a google search on changelings and World of Darkness (I think it was) and you should get a White-wolf page with some PDFs about them. They apparently existed ages ago and gave people dreams and creativity. When banality or mechanical knowledge came about they lost power or something and some dream city was shut off to them. That's how I read it anyway, could be wrong though.                        

     

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    Salubri, Saulot and Tremere
    « Reply #12 on: September 07, 2005, 06:00:00 PM »
                    I think that "only seven at a time" stuff only goes up for the ascentionites. You allso have preachers, redeemers and the more ass kicking purifiers..