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Offline Motherdragon64

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Yukie's shortcut during "Ming Must Die!" isn't working
« on: December 09, 2017, 01:02:18 pm »
So after I kill all of Ming-Xiao's goons in the temple exterior, Yukie initiates dialogue saying that she's leaving, and there's a persuasion dialogue option asking her if she can use her "hunter magic" to help me find Ming-Xiao. The thing is, when I try to select this option it simply causes a brief animation to play and then nothing happens. I've been told it's supposed to teleport you to the end of the level, similar to the shortcut in the Nosferatu Warrens. If that's the case then it's not a big problem for me as I wouldn't want to skip any gameplay anyways, but I thought I'd post this here in case anyone's reading who works on the Unofficial Patch.

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Re: Yukie's shortcut during "Ming Must Die!" isn't working
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2017, 06:56:09 pm »
The thing is, when I try to select this option it simply causes a brief animation to play and then nothing happens.

Hm, she is supposed to open a portal to Ming in front of the big temple, because this is the most probable place where you end up with her. If you talked with her elsewhere, check this location out!

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Re: Yukie's shortcut during "Ming Must Die!" isn't working
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2017, 07:19:29 pm »
The thing is, when I try to select this option it simply causes a brief animation to play and then nothing happens.

Hm, she is supposed to open a portal to Ming in front of the big temple, because this is the most probable place where you end up with her. If you talked with her elsewhere, check this location out!

Ah. I just checked and yes, it does appear, I just didn't see it because I was inside the building at that point. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Re: Yukie's shortcut during "Ming Must Die!" isn't working
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2017, 08:31:41 pm »
Ah. I just checked and yes, it does appear, I just didn't see it because I was inside the building at that point. Thanks for clearing that up.

Good. I changed the dialogue to give some hint that the shortcut will be in front of the big temple!

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Re: Yukie's shortcut during "Ming Must Die!" isn't working
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2017, 08:57:26 am »
So after I kill all of Ming-Xiao's goons in the temple exterior, Yukie initiates dialogue saying that she's leaving, and there's a persuasion dialogue option asking her if she can use her "hunter magic" to help me find Ming-Xiao.

This is new to me. How do you even meet the prerequisites for this to happen?

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Re: Yukie's shortcut during "Ming Must Die!" isn't working
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2017, 04:50:41 pm »
So after I kill all of Ming-Xiao's goons in the temple exterior, Yukie initiates dialogue saying that she's leaving, and there's a persuasion dialogue option asking her if she can use her "hunter magic" to help me find Ming-Xiao.

This is new to me. How do you even meet the prerequisites for this to happen?

It's a new option as of 9.9+. From the changelog:

+Provided shortcuts to skip most endgame fighting, see walkthrough.

Most of Bloodlines is very Deus Ex-like, in the sense that there are often multiple different solutions for problems. Due to Bloodlines' abbreviated development, the endgame has what I've been calling a "combat funnel": solutions more and more require you to be combat-focused and to slog your way through a bunch of enemies.

So Wesp has provided workarounds. If you're clever and skilled enough in other arenas, there are shortcuts. You still need to fight bosses, but not the hordes of minions. Is it the sort of solution that Troika would have done if they'd had the time? Probably not, but given the limitations we have to work with, I think this is a fairly elegant solution.

You can find a hidden entrance in the Hallowbrook Atrium which skips to Andrei. You can ride the Venture Tower elevator from the foyer directly to the Sheriff.

In this case, if you've done the previous Yukie mission and have her available to help you fight the Kuei-jin at endgame, and you have decent Persuasion, you can choose to bypass the fighting through several levels of the basement and skip right to Ming Xiao.
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Re: Yukie's shortcut during "Ming Must Die!" isn't working
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2017, 05:51:10 am »
+Provided shortcuts to skip most endgame fighting, see walkthrough.

That right there might be a valuable hint. I already accidentally discovered the Atrium shortcut; finding out the others might be worth it as well. Where do I find it, though?

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Re: Yukie's shortcut during "Ming Must Die!" isn't working
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2017, 09:29:15 am »
I already accidentally discovered the Atrium shortcut; finding out the others might be worth it as well.

I made this harder to find by accident now!

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Where do I find it, though?

The walkthrough is in the Extras folder...

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Re: Yukie's shortcut during "Ming Must Die!" isn't working
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2017, 07:07:43 pm »
The walkthrough is in the Extras folder...

I don't get it. I have no such folder...

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Re: Yukie's shortcut during "Ming Must Die!" isn't working
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2017, 09:48:31 pm »
You need to check "Patch Extras" in the installer to get the stuff.
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Re: Yukie's shortcut during "Ming Must Die!" isn't working
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2017, 05:46:26 am »
You need to check "Patch Extras" in the installer to get the stuff.

Thanks. Apparently I didn't. Can I fix this by (finding and) running the installer again, or do I need to make a fresh install of Bloodlines altogether?

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Re: Yukie's shortcut during "Ming Must Die!" isn't working
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2017, 08:50:50 am »
If you don't have any savegames you still want to play, you can just install over the existing version.
Or you can install the patch into an empty directory, copy what you need to your bloodlines folder and delete the rest.
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