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Title: Weird bug at confession
Post by: VickiLeekx on February 08, 2019, 12:26:17 AM
EDIT: To everybody with this bug, @Wesp5 provided a fix here :
https://forums.planetvampire.com/bloodlines-tech-support/weird-bug-at-confession/msg142995/#msg142995 (https://forums.planetvampire.com/bloodlines-tech-support/weird-bug-at-confession/msg142995/#msg142995)
Don't forget that as any map edit you have to do it before your current character has visited the map or start a new game.

This bug occurs after you visited the Empire Arms Hotel and killed boris.
The first time you enter the confession club there's no bug when you dance, but the third time you enter the club after you did the boris quest, it usually happens, there must be some kind of glitch, people probably don't notice this bug cause they rarely dance after the boris quest...

It's simple : first time you enter the confession club, try to dance = no bugs
second time after you did the parking quest, try to dance = still no bugs

the third time you enter the club after the boris hotel quest = bug occurs with NPCs teleporting, their feet are clipping into the floor, they spawn, disappear etc






(https://i.imgur.com/NOEohsh.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/7J7Jk2E.png)
there's also a weird visual "glitch" everytime i'm opening a door and leaving a building in downtown , usually the outside looks black but now it's changing between white and black
(https://i.imgur.com/pcmo2Fm.png)

Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Wesp5 on February 08, 2019, 08:23:57 AM
I'm in confession and i noticed that when i try to dance, the animations of NPCs are skipping, and they immediately come next to me to dance and for all the NPCs look like they have their feet clipping into the floor , and my character looks "taller" than all of them, any reason why this is happening?

I can't reproduce the clipping feet so this must be a random bug, but the other dancers grouping around your character is actually a feature: They do this in all clubs, probably due to your special vampiric aura while dancing :)!
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: VickiLeekx on February 08, 2019, 08:32:14 PM
I'm in confession and i noticed that when i try to dance, the animations of NPCs are skipping, and they immediately come next to me to dance and for all the NPCs look like they have their feet clipping into the floor , and my character looks "taller" than all of them, any reason why this is happening?

I can't reproduce the clipping feet so this must be a random bug, but the other dancers grouping around your character is actually a feature: They do this in all clubs, probably due to your special vampiric aura while dancing :)!

are you sure that it's a random bug? Someone on discord told me that NPCs teleporting in confession is a well known bug, , i knew that the dancers grouping around your character is a feature, but they usually stop dancing when you hit the dance button, and then they walk to come near you, in my game they're "teleporting" around, and it's skipping the walking animation...should i reinstall maybe? i'll try to record a video to show you the bug.
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Wesp5 on February 08, 2019, 08:44:33 PM
are you sure that it's a random bug?

I would guess so. Sometimes you can see NPCs teleporting around hubs too, like they immediately go to their intestings points or similar...
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: VickiLeekx on February 08, 2019, 08:51:22 PM
are you sure that it's a random bug?

I would guess so. Sometimes you can see NPCs teleporting around hubs too, like they immediately go to their intestings points or similar...
You know, what's weird is that i finished this game like 10 times and never had bugs like this
here is a video showing the bug (sorry for bad quality i took the fastest option)
u can see at the ending that when i kill someone all NPCs disappear from the club and their feet are clipping in the floor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_FfrzPLEW0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_FfrzPLEW0)

Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Barabbah on February 08, 2019, 11:39:59 PM
here is a video showing the bug (sorry for bad quality i took the fastest option)
u can see at the ending that when i kill someone all NPCs disappear from the club and their feet are clipping in the floor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_FfrzPLEW0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_FfrzPLEW0)

Oh my fucking god D:
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: VickiLeekx on February 09, 2019, 03:24:15 AM
here is a video showing the bug (sorry for bad quality i took the fastest option)
u can see at the ending that when i kill someone all NPCs disappear from the club and their feet are clipping in the floor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_FfrzPLEW0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_FfrzPLEW0)

Oh my fucking god D:

Did u get this bug too ?
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Barabbah on February 09, 2019, 05:10:45 AM
No, I just saw the video and was shocked, it was crazy. I hope there's a solution....
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Malkav on February 09, 2019, 10:23:40 AM
People teleporting around in confession is implemented in the map. I don't know why Troika did it, but it's a feature, not a bug. I think i disabled that in camarilla edition, but I'm not sure because it has been so long since I last worked on the mod.
Wasn't the floor problem solved when the map was recompiled?
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Wesp5 on February 09, 2019, 12:58:18 PM
People teleporting around in confession is implemented in the map. I don't know why Troika did it, but it's a feature, not a bug.

I'm not aware of that. If you fixed it, please tell me how?

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Wasn't the floor problem solved when the map was recompiled?

The map was recompiled because of the invisible player dancer...
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: VickiLeekx on February 09, 2019, 05:48:33 PM
People teleporting around in confession is implemented in the map. I don't know why Troika did it, but it's a feature, not a bug.

I'm not aware of that. If you fixed it, please tell me how?

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Wasn't the floor problem solved when the map was recompiled?

Mainly the map was recompiled because of the invisible dancer issue...

I use custom music files, could this be the reason of the bug? they are mp3 128 kbps files, that's all i changed in my game, and sometimes i'm playing with NPCs models like Jeanette or Tourette, i tried doing a clean install to see if it still does the same when i don't play with any custom content...i also sometimes remplace the music files of clubs like Asylum or whatever, in "Vampire\sound\music\licenced" and i don't start a new game after remplacing the song, i just continue with my current save, could this be the reason?
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Barabbah on February 09, 2019, 06:19:34 PM
It's very improbable for custom audio files or standard vanilla models to give problems to the engine (which I suspect is where the problem originates)
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Wesp5 on February 09, 2019, 06:47:24 PM
I use custom music files, could this be the reason of the bug?

I doubt it. I moved the interesting place marker for the dancers over the floor now, but nevertheless this doesn't happen on my system. Did you play a long session by any chance?
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: VickiLeekx on February 09, 2019, 08:31:01 PM
I use custom music files, could this be the reason of the bug?

I doubt it. I moved the interesting place marker for the dancers over the floor now, but nevertheless this doesn't happen on my system. Did you play a long session by any chance?
i never play more than 1 hour and a half each session, the bug was still present even after i restared my game or tried to go to an older save before it occured, even after this it still seemed to randomly come back, it always happens after i do the parking lot venus quest , it doesnt happen the first time i enter the confession but it usually happens the second time, pretty strange.
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Wesp5 on February 09, 2019, 09:18:46 PM
it doesnt happen the first time i enter the confession but it usually happens the second time, pretty strange.

Maybe this is a save game problem then, like the state of the dancers is not saved correctly...
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: VickiLeekx on February 10, 2019, 02:22:28 PM
it doesnt happen the first time i enter the confession but it usually happens the second time, pretty strange.

Maybe this is a save game problem then, like the state of the dancers is not saved correctly...

I PM'd @Malkav to ask him how he fixed the bug and he told me this :
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You have to edit the map but you don't need hammer. Use vpk tools or VTMBEdit to open the entity list, search and remove every instance of this line:
"teleport_move_timer" "10"

As any map edit you have to do it before your current character has visited the map or start a new game. And if you use VTMBEdit keep in mind that the program extracts and reimports the entity lists of every map in the directory. So if you want to edit only one map you have to move the file out of the game and then copy the edited one back.
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: VickiLeekx on February 10, 2019, 05:22:13 PM
Aight so i just tested the game without any custom content aside from the plus patch, and the bug still happens, it actually occurs after the Empire Arms Hotel quest after you killed boris, and not after the parking quest like i said, you should test it for yourself @Wesp
The first time you enter the confession club there's no bug when you dance, but the third time you enter the club after you did the boris quest, it usually happens, there must be some kind of glitch, people probably don't notice this bug cause they rarely dance after the boris quest...

It's simple : first time you enter the confession club, try to dance = no bugs
second time after you did the parking quest, try to dance = still no bugs
the third time you enter the club after the boris hotel quest = bug occurs
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Wesp5 on February 10, 2019, 05:35:43 PM
I still have no idea other than that the map state is not saved correctly. Just to be sure I implemented Malkav's suggestion for 10.3 though...
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: VickiLeekx on February 10, 2019, 05:49:42 PM
I still have no idea other than that the map state is not saved correctly. Just to be sure I implemented Malkav's suggestion for 10.3 though...
What could be the reason of the map not saving corretly? is it coming from my computer? i talked with someone from discord and they had the same issue, so i doubt i'm the only one :
(https://i.imgur.com/k29PDOR.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZmcMqL1.png)
I mean, it's not like this bug has a very big impact on the game but it definitely ruins the immersion for me, and i really love going to the confession club so it makes me sad lol
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Ghanima_Atreides on February 10, 2019, 07:51:30 PM
I just wanted to say I noticed this bug in my game too. Exactly the same as VickiLeekx described it.
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Wesp5 on February 10, 2019, 08:50:02 PM
To everybody with this problem, please replace the Confession map with the one attached and try again...
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: VickiLeekx on February 11, 2019, 07:32:43 AM
To everybody with this problem, please replace the Confession map with the one attached and try again...

Just tested it with a new save and...the NPCs don't seem to be teleporting around anymore after i shoot them or dance with them, animations run more smoothly, problem solved i guess. It worked for me, thx a lot!
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Wesp5 on February 11, 2019, 08:09:01 AM
Just tested it with a new save and...the NPCs don't seem to be teleporting around anymore after i shoot them or dance with them, animations run more smoothly, problem solved i guess. It worked for me, thx a lot!

Cool! I found two more maps with a similar parameter and no teleport destinations, so I fixed them as well :).
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Ghanima_Atreides on February 11, 2019, 08:36:03 AM
Well, for me it didn't work. They are all standing still and not dancing at all now, and when I entered Confession the message "AI disabled" flashed on the screen.

Is it because I don't have the latest patch? :/ I had already started a playthrough and couldn't update...


...I really hope I haven't destroyed my save now. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Wesp5 on February 11, 2019, 04:02:13 PM
Well, for me it didn't work. They are all standing still and not dancing at all now, and when I entered Confession the message "AI disabled" flashed on the screen.

That's normal. I think I didn't include the ain (AI nodes) file which the game creates new then. Enter again and everything should be fine!
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: VickiLeekx on February 11, 2019, 04:36:47 PM
Well, for me it didn't work. They are all standing still and not dancing at all now, and when I entered Confession the message "AI disabled" flashed on the screen.

Is it because I don't have the latest patch? :/ I had already started a playthrough and couldn't update...


...I really hope I haven't destroyed my save now. :facepalm:
I replaced the map files in both /vampire/maps and unofficial patch/maps and it worked perfectly, i didn't know which one to replace so i replaced both, you have to do it before your current character has visited the map or start a new game, otherwise it's not gonna work
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Ghanima_Atreides on February 12, 2019, 04:15:14 PM

I replaced the map files in both /vampire/maps and unofficial patch/maps and it worked perfectly, i didn't know which one to replace so i replaced both, you have to do it before your current character has visited the map or start a new game, otherwise it's not gonna work

Aha, I see. Well I guess I'll just have to live with it for now, until I am ready to start a new game anyway.

Thanks for the fix, Wesp!
Title: Re: Weird bug at confession
Post by: Malkav on February 13, 2019, 02:46:55 PM
Changes like this always in the /unofficial_patch folder. Any changes to the /vampire folder are ovewritten by the files in the mod folder.