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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2020, 07:56:30 pm »
well then he shouldn't blackmail him anyway!
What?!? This was and always is an option in the game so yeah this won´t be changed.
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if you don't want to change it,it's fine but it doesn't make  any sense!
It´s not perfect but an improvement over the previous places. SM Haven is for many reasons stupid. Of course the obvious vampire stuff which Wesp already mentioned and nobody is that dumb to blackmail a stranger and say put the money in my mailbox which gives the victim a clear clue who he am and where he lives. Second place was behind the plant in the apartments where Mercurio lives. But this was too random.
I see it like Acleacius already mentioned that the player is that good in that skill (in this case Intimidation) so Malcolm won´t call the police because he is that afraid. Or maybe he doesn´t want to call the cops for $150. :laugh:

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well some of them don't make sense and no one can discuss them if he can't speak German.
Sorry, first i only speak for myself of course. I am sometimes too lazy (especially after work) so i prefer to discuss with Wesp in German. And why not?
Does it really matter that you can´t understand these discussions? I don´t think so because Wesp has to decide on his own what he uses from German feedback and what not. He is the patcher and he explains and therefore translates to you all the "important" changes.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2020, 08:42:44 pm by Wesp5 »

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2020, 08:59:06 pm »
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"What?!? This was and always is an option in the game so yeah this won´t be changed."

i mean if we want to see it that way!


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"I see it like Acleacius already mentioned that the player is that good in that skill (in this case Intimidation) so Malcolm won´t call the police because he is that afraid. Or maybe he doesn´t want to call the cops for $150."

and that is my Point! if player is that good then he shouldn't be afraid to give him his real address! if he doesn't or he doesn't know then he should know that returning to hospital is dangerous for him. if we are going for Rl then my point stands unless we want to go for game logic wise which then why would we change the original anyway? cause it make sense since is a game :D
i am just saying if we are trying realism my points should be taken into consideration but it's not my patch and i am just trying to give some insight.

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"Sorry, first i only speak for myself of course. I am sometimes too lazy (especially after work) so i prefer to discuss with Wesp in German. And why not?
Does it really matter that you can´t understand these discussions? I don´t think so because Wesp has to decide on his own what he uses from German feedback and what not. He is the patcher and he explains and therefore translates to you all the "important" changes."
i have nothing against speaking in german! just the points that you make are often interesting and important so i always try to read your posts which i do without any problem using translator but since i guess English to german translation is not as good as the reverse and using it is some sort of disrespect i am not posting anything in there. i just think i can give some feedbacks which are also helpful as i mentioned one of them earlier  regarding Mercurio's health.
and again it's not my patch, i am just trying to help.

 
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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2020, 08:59:31 pm »
It's the same with Intimidate, he wouldn't call the police or tell his wife, as Wesp mentions.
The problem with Malcolm is that the player does not need to use any special powers. Also I think it would be very easy for him to send some friends to the player's place if he doesn't dare contact the police, while it's much harder to get those into the clinic. And Mercurio's place was explained to me as a bad choice as the corridor full of blood would lead anyone to Mercurio who wouldn't like this at all!

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(Sorry I don't know the story about the 5 in your name. So I always want to call you Wesp, cause your the one and only Wesp!  :) 
No problem, I always have to append 5 or 55 because "Wesp" usually is already taken ;). And 5 is my favourite number.

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As I mentioned, I've already sold the stake.
That's also not possible in the original game so you must have changed the item yourself.

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Here's the dialog file from the newest patch, not changed. Seems I'm not the only working on autopilot from sleep deprivation!  :vampwink:
This is not what is in 10.8, the second line is there so you must have looked at the original version.

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Lol, what? He took his valuables? He has valuables? Wait what, do you mean he takes his porn!??
Carson takes his laptop, his tape recorder and the poster of Imalia ;)!

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2020, 09:04:08 pm »
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i have nothing against speaking in german! just the points that you make are often interesting and important so i always try to read your posts which i do without any problem using translator but since i guess English to german translation is not as good as the reverse and using it is some sort of disrespect i am not posting anything in there.
Just use Google translate if you want, you might have noticed that I fix stupid details whenever I see them here anyway, so I would probably fix these posts up in a way that we Germans can understand them :)!

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2020, 09:08:12 pm »
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and that is my Point! if player is that good then he shouldn't be afraid to give him his real address!
Minimize risk of course. You don´t tell your victim where you live and more important sleep.
To be honest i am ok with Malcolm´s office but my first idea was the parking garage.
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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2020, 09:33:03 pm »
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Intimidate, he wouldn't call the police or tell his wife
All of our powers are Mystically Divine, afaik. Do any humans have the skills to Intimidate or Seduce a Vampire?
Afaik, he has no thoughts of going back on his word to give money, nor does he care where the player lives or would he think about sending friends.
I really don't think, VtM gives humans those abilities, at least they didn't back when this game was being made.

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No problem, I always have to append 5 or 55 because "Wesp" usually is already taken ;). And 5 is my favourite number.
Good, I don't need to worry about offending you, when I call you Wesp, Wesp.  ;)

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That's also not possible in the original game so you must have changed the item yourself.
Yes, that's why I was trying to find the chewing gum text file to change it to sell.
As I mention I didn't want the items in my inventory, nor did I want to Exploit Copper.

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This is not what is in 10.8, the second line is there so you must have looked at the original version.
It is whats in my 10.8 rc2.1 I downloaded from the link you provided.
As I mentioned this is a new win 10 install (first time using) and new install of Bloodlines.
What could have happened is I copied that line over when using WinMerge.
So if you say it's no longer used, I'll remove it. Thanks.

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Carson takes his laptop, his tape recorder and the poster of Imalia ;)!
Omg, a little warning with the Spoilers!  j/k
It would still fit if there was dialog OR he could leave a note for the player to feel free to use his pad, cause he is getting out of town to recover *somewhere.   :vampwink:

Ooc, can someone remind me when Knox shows up inside Asylum? I thought it was after Ocean House but I'm headed to Gallery Noir and he's still not there.
Trust me, most of the names I have been called you can't translate in any language...they're not even real words as much as a succession of violent images.

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2020, 09:43:00 pm »

nge
Just use Google translate if you want, you might have noticed that I fix stupid details whenever I see them here anyway, so I would probably fix these posts up in a way that we Germans can understand them :)!
okey that's good thanks.




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Minimize risk of course. You don´t tell your victim where you live and more important sleep.
Too be honest i am ok with Malcolm´s office but my first idea was the parking garage.


well for that player can also not go around his office again or something but that can't be implanted.so anyway moving on i guess.

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2020, 11:37:34 pm »
Nm I found Knox.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2020, 06:26:22 am by Acleacius »
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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2020, 09:19:42 am »
All of our powers are Mystically Divine, afaik. Do any humans have the skills to Intimidate or Seduce a Vampire?
You didn't understand, you don't need any special lines to blackmail Malcolm...

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2020, 05:27:13 pm »
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You didn't understand, you don't need any special lines to blackmail Malcolm...
Or I understand because it WAS a Green line I chose $150. But, I could still be wrong, because you removed it and I added back with WinMerge without realizing.
Just like the line that said "Drop my simoleons in the place of pawns" ?  I'm not really sure how you could get rid of a line like that, it was pretty snappy!   :vampwink:

Besides, Malcomb doesn't have any friends. He's a ER Dr who works most of the time and when he's not, he sleeps around on his wife.
Not to mention the expression on his face, clearly says he does not want his wife to find out. 

That was a really great idea to move Knox there, but was really annoying finding out the hard way. I had finished the whole zone and was trying to speak to Tung.
After the warehouse the line about his ghoul wasn't showing up. I had to check the Tung.dlg, Quests Santa Monica and Santa Monica.py since I alter that quest.
As a reward success, after we expose Knox and Tung admits we helped him get rid of a spy without revealing him.

Oh I did have a odd bug, but probably not because of BUP. When I couldn't find the proper chewinggum text file I dumped the gum in Copper's Chest.
Now I can't get it out, it's stuck in the chest. It will probably work ok, on the next game I start.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2020, 05:39:12 pm by Acleacius »
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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2020, 07:12:58 pm »
Or I understand because it WAS a Green line I chose $150.
You can Intimidate him for more money, but you always get the normal amount without special lines.

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When I couldn't find the proper chewinggum text file I dumped the gum in Copper's Chest.Now I can't get it out, it's stuck in the chest. It will probably work ok, on the next game I start.
Sadly this is a known issue that can't be fixed and is caused by the Ming weapon used for it...

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« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2020, 09:30:17 pm »
Think I recall in the past you mentioned the trash in the hallway of the hospital downtown cleared after meeting Pisha.
Did that change? I've met her and come back for the quest items update but all the items are still in the halls.
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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2020, 07:48:10 am »
Think I recall in the past you mentioned the trash in the hallway of the hospital downtown cleared after meeting Pisha.
I don't think I ever did that...

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.8 released!
« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2020, 11:26:30 am »
i do remember something about clearing the way too

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« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2020, 02:08:20 pm »
I think I did something there a long time ago, but the other way around. I prevented some debris from magically disappearing ;)!

 

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