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Offline Pumma

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Re: Seriously, lvl 1 dominate still makes people dance?
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2019, 06:59:27 PM »
I looked into this again and it seems the duration can be enhanced, so I have increased Brainwipe to 15 seconds now, like most other Dominate or Dementation disciplines...

That's good to hear. I thought that the duration is hard-coded or you were able to get around this.

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Re: Seriously, lvl 1 dominate still makes people dance?
« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2019, 07:52:33 PM »
That's good to hear. I thought that the duration is hard-coded or you were able to get around this.

This was at first a mistake of my own. I prolonged the duration and tested it on a normal NPC, which after 5 seconds went her usual way, so I assumed that it didn't work longer. Of course in reality the discipline was still active, she just didn't see me!

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Re: Seriously, lvl 1 dominate still makes people dance?
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2019, 04:07:17 AM »
That's good to hear. I thought that the duration is hard-coded or you were able to get around this.

This was at first a mistake of my own. I prolonged the duration and tested it on a normal NPC, which after 5 seconds went her usual way, so I assumed that it didn't work longer. Of course in reality the discipline was still active, she just didn't see me!

I see. Just the "animation" is 5 seconds but all other is OK. Not a big problem but could confuse someone when using it.

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Re: Seriously, lvl 1 dominate still makes people dance?
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2019, 07:44:23 AM »
I see. Just the "animation" is 5 seconds but all other is OK.

No. There is no special animation! They just don't see you...

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Re: Seriously, lvl 1 dominate still makes people dance?
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2019, 03:32:37 AM »
I don't see a problem there. Compared to Brainwipe it should work fine on many more supernaturals!
Are you certain? It can't even effect Jezebel, that fight is hard for malks(most boss fights are harder when playing as malk, but this one especially).
Imo lvl 2 dementation should works on all things except those without a clear mind, such as zombies and Tzimisce creations, which they also ignore obfuscate because they are coco!

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Re: Seriously, lvl 1 dominate still makes people dance?
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2019, 06:32:06 AM »
I see. Just the "animation" is 5 seconds but all other is OK.

No. There is no special animation! They just don't see you...

With "animation" I mean certain NPC's behavior which indicates that the discipline is active. I didn't have time to check the duration of Sleep but I hope this change do not make Sleep useless.

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Re: Seriously, lvl 1 dominate still makes people dance?
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2019, 07:25:13 AM »
With "animation" I mean certain NPC's behavior which indicates that the discipline is active.

That's the main problem with Brainwipe. You don't get any hint that it's working besides the particles on the target's heads.

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I didn't have time to check the duration of Sleep but I hope this change do not make Sleep useless.

Sleep normally lasts forever, so this is pretty much the best sneaking discipline :)!

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Re: Seriously, lvl 1 dominate still makes people dance?
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2019, 07:26:37 AM »
I don't see a problem there. Compared to Brainwipe it should work fine on many more supernaturals!
Are you certain? It can't even effect Jezebel, that fight is hard for malks(most boss fights are harder when playing as malk, but this one especially).

According to the file it should work fine. Only as it just lowers some combat attributes you don't really notice that it works in the first place...

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Re: Seriously, lvl 1 dominate still makes people dance?
« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2019, 07:25:36 PM »
According to the file it should work fine. Only as it just lowers some combat attributes you don't really notice that it works in the first place...
Hmm, it definitely has no effect on Jezebel, because she is having that disorient animation, which only happens when a dominate/dementation ability is resisted.

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Re: Seriously, lvl 1 dominate still makes people dance?
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2019, 08:02:07 PM »
Hmm, it definitely has no effect on Jezebel, because she is having that disorient animation, which only happens when a dominate/dementation ability is resisted.

She should be affected. Maybe the Mass Hallucination effect looks like the resist effect? Neither EntenSchreck nor myself changed anything there...