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Offline Barabbah

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #150 on: May 20, 2019, 05:17:02 pm »
No way! That's the perfect place for that crap of Come Alive, small and insignificant!!



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Offline Wilhelm Streicher 19

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #151 on: May 20, 2019, 05:30:54 pm »
You can easily turn the radio off, which you normally can't do with background music playing.
What?!? Really?!?
I never thought that is would be possible well that change everything.
Is the radio still off when i reenter the Red Spot?

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Could be, but mustn't. There could be many stupid Americans talking like this :)!
Isn´t there any hint in the game files that could be Spicoli.

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Maybe the Darling song would be better in a club that way.
I am neutral on this but wouldn´t be on places like the Pier where the song can be heard at the first time?

Edit: So is every track even the unused in the game?
What about the alternative and unused Downtown Track?
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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #152 on: May 20, 2019, 06:02:20 pm »
@Wilhelm, you can turn on or off any radio in the game. Apart from the haven I know this to be true for Arthur's, Lucky Star and Red Spot. Don't recall if there are other radios in the game.

@Wesp: with a bit of scripting (or map editing in case of the music done as ambient_generic instead of sound_scheme) you can play one track at the first visit and another one on the second visit.

On another matter. Since you have included many options to give used quest items to various npcs, why not give Virgil Crumb's licence back to Knox after dealing with the asian vamp?
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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #153 on: May 20, 2019, 06:16:04 pm »
Don't recall if there are other radios in the game.

Where Yukie hangs out.

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #154 on: May 20, 2019, 06:23:27 pm »
@Wilhelm, you can turn on or off any radio in the game.

Except for the music only radios, like at the pier or the museum. And the normal ones stay off and there is no hint in the game files that the caller is Spicoli. After all several people voiced multiple characters...

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@Wesp: with a bit of scripting (or map editing in case of the music done as ambient_generic instead of sound_scheme) you can play one track at the first visit and another one on the second visit.

No need, I have decided for keep the song at the pier for now. As for unused Rik Schaffer pieces, these were not in the game, only all the licenced stuff. After all why would they pay and not include them ;)?

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On another matter. Since you have included many options to give used quest items to various npcs, why not give Virgil Crumb's licence back to Knox after dealing with the asian vamp?

That was suggested already, but there is no good dialogue for this and also I don't see why Knox should be wanting it back in the first place!
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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #155 on: May 20, 2019, 06:46:18 pm »
and there is no hint in the game files that the caller is Spicoli. After all several people voiced multiple characters...
Well its Brian Mitsoda who voiced Spicoli and also Caller 1 on Loop 4.
Its true that several people including Brian have voiced several people but this guy and Spicoli have the same manner.

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That was suggested already, but there is no good dialogue for this
What about:
821: "Yeah! Oh man!" , 831: "Nah." 841: "Thanks!", 851: "No way! Really?",  861: "[uncertain]I don't know." or 881: "That's cool!" ?
Couldn´t you use 841 or 881 for this dialogue?

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and also I don't see why Knox should be wanting it back in the first place!
Maybe as souvenir or as reminder that his nightmare is dead?

By the way is this track in the game?
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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #156 on: May 20, 2019, 07:06:04 pm »
Couldn´t you use 841 or 881 for this dialogue?

These are very generic lines that many NPC have. I still don't see the problem with placing this in your haven chest or dropping it somewhere!

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Maybe as souvenir or as reminder that his nightmare is dead?

You mean like evidence that he is connected to two murders ;)?

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By the way is this track in the game?

Yes, I restored it to the tutorial, as this takes place downtown.

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #157 on: May 20, 2019, 07:56:38 pm »
I have an even better idea: edit the dialogue so he doesn't gave you the licence at all but only show it to you, you can reply with something like "ok, now I saw his ugly face, thanks" and give it back. Free item slot!!



Ok, maybe not a solution for the UP but I bet it will great for any of the big mods ;)

A more serious solution would be in the dialogue you just add to a sentence "oh, by the way, I don't need it anymore". He will just ignore that last last in his next line
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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #158 on: May 20, 2019, 08:54:58 pm »
Free item slot!!



We need a backpacks, lots of backpacks, all the backpacks

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #159 on: May 20, 2019, 09:29:50 pm »
These are very generic lines that many NPC have.
But it could work.
Also this isn´t better or worse than Becketts "Excellent" ;)

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I still don't see the problem with placing this in your haven chest or dropping it somewhere!
I never dropped items in any games out of fear that it could crash the respective game.
Of course i could store it and this is currently my only eligible option but i diidn´t like
to store useless items. If i can i usually sell the stuff.

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You mean like evidence that he is connected to two murders ;)?
Even Knox isn´t that dumb to leve evidence behind. Also he gave it to the player in the first place.

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Yes, I restored it to the tutorial, as this takes place downtown.
Thanks and last track question. Where can i find the unused track Hollywood Explore Part 1?

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #160 on: May 21, 2019, 05:13:01 am »
From Soundtrack_info.txt somewhere in the extras folder of the UP

 Innocence once lost (Unused): Restored to Malkavian Exterior
 All that could ever be (Unused): Restored to Observatory
 Clean (Unused): Restored to Diner
 Dreamscape 1 (Unused): Restored to Cemetery
 Dreamscape 2 (Unused): Restored to Hallowbrook Atrium
 Edward's Theme (Unused): Restored to Ocean House
 Festival (Unused): Restored to Pier
 Hollywood Explore (Unused): Restored to Warrens Shortcut
 Poinsettia (Unused): Restored to King's Way
 Selfless Doubt (Unused): Restored to Beachhouse
 This World then the Next (Unused): Parking Garage
 Time Eternal (Unused): Restored to Malkavian Maze
 To Live Forever (Unused): Restored to Chateau Marmont
 Come Around (Unused): Restored to Public Library
 Downtown Hub (Unused Alternate): Restored to Tutorial
 Hollywood Hub Part 2 (Unused): Restored to Nosferatu Warrens
 Open Season (Unused): Restored to Blood Hunt
 The LaCroix Dream (Unused): Restored to Warehouse
 Tikal Jungle (Unused): Restored to Kamikaze Zen
 Vesuvius (Unused Alternate): Restored to Ground Zer0

Plus in the UP game files there are present also these two:
China Boss Battle (Unused).mp3 (I suppose that's placed on Ming fight)
Mission Impossible.mp3 (a restored extended version)
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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #161 on: May 21, 2019, 09:57:30 am »
I never dropped items in any games out of fear that it could crash the respective game.

I never had this happen in Bloodlines, rather the opposite, you get problems if your inventory is too full! Which is the only reason I finally made it possible with Knox. Malkav, can you please check the attached file for problems as this was a really stupid amount of work! While I was at it, I also made Luca take your invitations :)...

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Thanks and last track question. Where can i find the unused track Hollywood Explore Part 1?

As listed in the info that Brabbah cited, this should be audible in the Nosferatu warrens below Hollywood.

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #162 on: May 21, 2019, 12:21:13 pm »
Okay, I have checked it. You had forgotten some brackets. While I was at it I have also streamlined the conditions a bit and made cosmetic changes, i.e. moved the "not yet" lines below all the "it is done" lines.
I hope I haven't overlooked something. Maybe someone can doublecheck?
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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #163 on: May 21, 2019, 12:28:19 pm »
Okay, I have checked it. You had forgotten some brackets. While I was at it I have also streamlined the conditions a bit and made cosmetic changes, i.e. moved the "not yet" lines below all the "it is done" lines.

I kept them there to seperate the lines that I changed ;). Now I hope that with both of us it works as intended, thanks!

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Re: Unofficial Patch 10.3 released!
« Reply #164 on: May 21, 2019, 01:18:29 pm »
From Soundtrack_info.txt somewhere in the extras folder of the UP
Thanks a lot :)

I never had this happen in Bloodlines, rather the opposite, you get problems if your inventory is too full!
Maybe i was traumatize by some older RPGs like TES 2 Daggerfall where this wasn´t be a good idea.

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Which is the only reason I finally made it possible with Knox.
This is surprising but ok thank you too. :)
Well the only useless item left is the Brother Salvage card.
And i really don´t see any logical  reason to give this to someone. So this has to be the only store item.

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While I was at it, I also made Luca take your invitations :)...
I could have sworn that Luca already had taken the invitations because after the Giovanni they have disappeared.

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As listed in the info that Brabbah cited, this should be audible in the Nosferatu warrens below Hollywood.
This makes sense and would also explain why i am not that familiar with this track.
By the way is the track Mission Impossiblestill unused?
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