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Offline apollosarrow

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NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« on: August 08, 2019, 03:09:30 AM »
friends!

So I have two problems. I recently completed the missing Nosferatu quest after the King's Way mansion. I'm back in Hollywood after touching base with Isaac. I went to go complete the Chastity quest for VV and I find that the ATM patron doesn't leave! He's stuck--I hacked the ATM and all.

In my futile efforts, I also went to restore blood points in the graveyard. But Romero wasn't there! I even entered G.Romero_Boink and got an output of 3, so I have no idea what's happening. I reloaded old saves with no avail--I really don't wanna do the Nosferatu quest again.

Is there a way to spawn/reset NPCs? Hollywood is giving me a headache.

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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2019, 03:30:45 AM »
Errors like this are usually due to playing the game for long without a break. If this is the cause try to save, exit and re-enter the game.
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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2019, 03:43:17 AM »
Thanks for your prompt response!

Yes, I did try that but it didn't work. I even left the map and came back to it--no avail. I rebooted the game, rebooted the computer, and loaded an earlier save but it all has the same problem.

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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2019, 04:01:00 AM »
For me it's 5 in the morning, I hope to be capable to help :P goddamn insomnia

By memory the patron not moving is a common error. I never experienced it but I've read a solution is to pay his boot twice. No idea, maybe this will end his animation, make him check new commands and blah blah....

Regarding Romero, I remember some version of the UP (AT is built on an UP) hides him once his quests are complete (specially when you take him a prostitute (like they're still busy).
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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2019, 07:57:34 AM »
Barrabah is right on both accounts. I think Romero is actually only back in his shack after the quest if you play the plus patch!

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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2019, 08:06:57 AM »
Barrabah is right on both accounts. I think Romero is actually only back in his shack after the quest if you play the plus patch!

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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2019, 03:10:24 AM »
Okay! I'm about to try the Chastity quest, but I haven't seen Romero after the installation of the Plus patch, maybe I will reload and see.

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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2019, 03:36:32 AM »
NPC in Chastity quest doesn't move when I try the double pay thing. :(

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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2019, 08:33:18 AM »
I hope you haven't tried to continue an old save after installing the plus patch. If so, npcs not moving is most probably the least of your problems.
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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2019, 10:33:40 AM »
Okay! I'm about to try the Chastity quest, but I haven't seen Romero after the installation of the Plus patch, maybe I will reload and see.

As Malkav points out, this is a know problem.
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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2019, 11:14:43 AM »
I’m even wondering what version of UP you have. It seems to me, perhaps this is something from the old versions, where there really was a whole bunch of problems (It happened with us - a person downloaded the old version of UP and found in it those problems that had long been fixed in recent updates ...).
Therefore, I think that there may be a problem not only in the old saves, but also in the patch version. (For example, the long-suffering "TruePatchGold", where a whole bunch of all kinds of glitches, etc.).
That's not all. Among the Russian fans of this wonderful game were those who put mods on top of UP, which led to even greater consequences ...
And then everyone was amazed at "why can't I go through this quest? I did everything right."
I don’t hint at anything, I just somehow came across such unusual options.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2019, 11:22:18 AM by Avadonica »

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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2019, 11:35:47 AM »
Well, adding one mod on another and then wondering why there are all kinds of bugs is not a russian only phenomenon. I've seen millions of questions and bug reports on this matter over the years. Especially before we had the mod loader.
And then there is the problem with GoG users who don't deactivate the auto update. At least half the bug reports on the forum there boil down to Galaxy has updated while the player had a game in progress.
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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2019, 01:54:32 PM »
Well, adding one mod on another and then wondering why there are all kinds of bugs is not a russian only phenomenon. I've seen millions of questions and bug reports on this matter over the years. Especially before we had the mod loader.
And then there is the problem with GoG users who don't deactivate the auto update. At least half the bug reports on the forum there boil down to Galaxy has updated while the player had a game in progress.

This is probably why I don’t use GoG, but download the latest version of UP from trusted sources.
And, yes, many thanks to all those who created the mod loader. This is a really awesome thing! =)

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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2019, 12:12:28 AM »
Now I'm confused. Is there any way to fix the stuck NPC in this save? I only have the UP and haven't installed Plus based on what's been discussed here. I did the double pay thing in the peep show as advised and it didn't work.

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Re: NPCs Stuck/Missing?
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2019, 06:15:10 AM »
Plus is not a problem, adding major mods on top of the patch it is.

Which clan you are? If you don't mind cheating a bit open the console, try to give yourself temporarily domination, made him sleep, kill the hunter and use the console again to remove domination.
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