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"I have no valid reply" typical fixes not working
« on: December 04, 2010, 09:27:21 pm »
I posted this on the old PV forums and was directed here. Also, I hope I don't double post. I tried to post a minute ago, got an error and couldn't find my topic.

I just reinstalled Bloodlines to play though again since it has been a few years, and I've been slowly losing my sanity trying to fix this bug over the last several days. It's really frustrating, and as far as I can tell everything else is working fine. I'm hoping someone has an idea that may help me.

I'm stuck in the very beginning of the tutorial. The guy asks if I want him to help me out, and I'm only able to say "I have no valid reply". I've tried feeding and going back, and it's still the same. This is accompanied by some other oddities. My sire is checkered (missing texture?) and in the opening scene, my character and some guy in an orange punky looking hazmat suit have switched positions.

Win 7 64-bit
AMD Phenom II x4 940 3.01GHz
6GB DDR2 RAM
Nvidia GeForce GTX 260
Unofficial patch installed

I've tried reinstalling numerous times. I've already uninstalled Python, going on advice I found in a couple other posts. It did not work. I've also tried Win XP SP2 compatibility mode just for the hell of it. I'd appreciate any help I can get to have this game running properly again.

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Re: "I have no valid reply" typical fixes not working
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2010, 10:37:23 pm »
Unofficial patch installed

Just to check that you installed the patch correctly, do you see the Blood Heal discipline when using the plus version?

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Re: "I have no valid reply" typical fixes not working
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2010, 12:09:10 am »
Yeah. Blood Heal, Blood Buff, Obfuscate, Mass Hallucination, Hysteria, and Auspex.

Version 7.2 of the Unofficial patch -is- installed. I also tried it with an earlier version, 5 I think. That's the one I had before, if I remember correctly. Thought maybe the old one would work... Sadly it was another dead end. I also tried both Plus and Basic versions of the patch.

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Re: "I have no valid reply" typical fixes not working
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 07:27:52 pm »
Starting to look like I'm out of luck with this game. I always seem to get the odd bugs that no one ever encounters, or they've encountered but their fixes don't work for me. Thanks for trying at least.

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Re: "I have no valid reply" typical fixes not working
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2010, 07:00:30 pm »
Are you adding some kind of other mod? Honestly the only time this type of error comes up is if there is a problem with the dialog file. So either it's not getting installed correctly or it's corrupted. Sounds like your playing Malkavian is your PC a male or female, history or none?

Here's what I would try, reinstall the game and use only the Official 1.2 patch, see if you have the same error.

I need to test the tutorial for some changes to Malkavian dialogs, but haven't had the chance, though I usually play female.
Trust me, most of the names I have been called you can't translate in any language...they're not even real words as much as a succession of violent images.

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Re: "I have no valid reply" typical fixes not working
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2010, 12:38:14 am »
I'm not using any other mods. I wanted to play it as close to vanilla as I could with all the content working right.

I have tried this with a malkavian female, toreodor (spelling?) male and female. I also picked one male at random, think it was the bruha? The malkavian female is only the latest one I tried. All had the same bug.

I've gotten two varying results with just the 1.2 patch. The first couple of times I just got the blurry textures, which I didn't try going further than the menu before installing the unofficial patch. But now I can't seem to even run the game with just the 1.2 patch. I just get an "Available memory less than 15mb!!! -1" error. I'll try reducing my maximum memory to 3GB and see what happens if I can get it running.


Edit: Okay, apparently reducing the maximum memory via MSConfig does not matter. At least not in Win 7. Still got the "Available memory less than 15mb!!! -1" error even though Windows only recognized 3GB of usable memory.

Using only the 1.2 patch seems to be a no-go unless I can figure out why it worked with just blurry textures the first two times. I did nothing different in the installation. I think the only thing I changed is that I uninstalled Python after reading that it might be the cause of this dialog bug. Though, I think that only occurred with an older version.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 12:57:09 am by Mako »

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Re: "I have no valid reply" typical fixes not working
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2010, 06:28:08 am »
Ahh my bad, I missed your using win 7 OS and I have never used it so I won't be much help.

I would reinstall Python. You might try Searching if you haven't for Win 7 in this forum and possibly google "win 7 bloodlines" as it's probably a common issue with the new OS.

Oh I found it, microsoft says 64 bit is not compatable, sorry mate. You got a bootable 32 bit or Win XP partition?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/Windows-7/en-us/Details.aspx?type=Software&p=Vampire%3a%20The%20Masquerade%20-%20Bloodlines&v=Activision&uid=&pf=1&pi=8&c=PC%20Gaming&sc=Action%20%26%20Adventure&os=32-bit
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Re: "I have no valid reply" typical fixes not working
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2010, 09:55:28 am »
At least not in Win 7.

Hm, is the Win 7 file protection on? In that case Win 7 probably didn't allow the Unofficial Patch to replace several dlls.

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Re: "I have no valid reply" typical fixes not working
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2010, 10:08:55 pm »
Figured out why I got the "Available memory less than 15mb!!! -1" error. I forgot to put it in Win XP sp2 compatability mode. That was a derp moment. Now v1.2 just alternately crashes after clicking new game, or shows me a black screen instead of a menu. Progress! Sigh.

File protection is always on in win 7. The only way to turn it off is to edit the registry. Unless you're talking about data execution prevention. I turned that off when I installed the OS. But, I set all the folders and files within the bloodlines folder to full access for all users, and unchecked read only. Even ran the unofficial patch in administrator mode.

Are the DLL's that the patch replaces available stand alone, in a zip or rar archive?

I suppose it might be a 64-bit compatibility issue. I didn't realize that the source engine didn't support 64-bit until a year after Bloodlines was released. I don't have a 32-bit win installation right now, just running Ubuntu (Lucid Lynx) beside win7. I could probably get away with stealing a bit of space from the win 7 partition and installing XP, but I think I'll wait until I have more reasons to do so... I get the feeling it will screw with my boot loader and don't really feel like sorting it out right now.

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Re: "I have no valid reply" typical fixes not working
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2010, 09:13:51 am »
File protection is always on in win 7. The only way to turn it off is to edit the registry. Unless you're talking about data execution prevention.

I don't really know as I don't have Win7, but the patch installer needs to replace some dlls and if the OS doesn't allow this there will be trouble.

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Are the DLL's that the patch replaces available stand alone, in a zip or rar archive?

Just install the patch into an empty directory and you can access them manually.

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I suppose it might be a 64-bit compatibility issue.

I think there are people out there running Bloodlines in 64-bit, but again I never did this.

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Re: "I have no valid reply" typical fixes not working
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2010, 04:35:20 pm »
Ooops, I had posted the link saying 32 bit would work. Here's the link saying that 64 bit will NOT work.
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Re: "I have no valid reply" typical fixes not working
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2010, 07:14:07 pm »
Ah, ok. I thought it might not write the files if it did not detect the directory or files it was replacing.

Windows 7 file protection is kind of like a retarded version of the superior root/su setup linux has in that it sets certain files (usually those in the /windows directory) to only be modifiable by a user group known as "TrustedInstaller". You can take permissions on any of these files manually though if you have administrator privileges, and realistically it doesn't protect much since it can be disabled via the registry, which seems to make a convenient back door for any potential viruses. It's a bit of a nuisance.

Anyway, I just now manually placed all the patch files into the bloodlines directory and made sure everything was overwritten. It's still giving me the same bug. At this point I can only assume it's nothing wrong with the bloodlines/unofficial patch files themselves, but how they are interacting with something else in my system.

Edit: Tried disabling my antivirus as well as Spybot S&D. No luck.

Also, that windows compatability page is just repeating what activision told them. The base game with the 1.2 patch doesn't necessarily work with 64-bit "out of the box" so to speak, but I know people have gotten this game running on 64-bit, and even win 7 64-bit. With far less trouble than I'm having even.

As frustrating as this is, I get the horrible feeling that the solution will end up being something really stupid just sitting under my nose. I hope...
« Last Edit: December 10, 2010, 07:35:57 pm by Mako »

 

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