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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2020, 05:47:40 pm »
I see you posted while I was typing, if you want to test your fix this is how to test it. I tried many variations on what it sounds like you tried but none of them worked, maybe you found the secret combination!
I canceled both the rant chooser scripts and all the lines and it seems to work just fine. When he is walking or striking a pose!

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In the Ming Xiao fight if you fail the fight and have to reload a save from in the her boss fight arena area the key can fall to the floor when you do finish the fight.
Ah, I didn't even know that. I will use your solution, but it's a bit illogical that it still floats. Any magic connected to Ming should have been gone by then :)! BTW, any idea how to fix that Ming is invulnerable to the flamethrower after loading?
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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2020, 08:43:08 pm »
I canceled both the rant chooser scripts and all the lines and it seems to work just fine. When he is walking or striking a pose!

Cool! I look forward to seeing how it works.

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Ah, I didn't even know that. I will use your solution, but it's a bit illogical that it still floats. Any magic connected to Ming should have been gone by then :)! BTW, any idea how to fix that Ming is invulnerable to the flamethrower after loading?

When magic or mystic are involved I never think if any of it makes sense  :smiley:  How about this - the key itself is magical (I think a character may even say this?) and her magic keeps is hidden from view, only when she dies does it's floating magical nature reveal itself  :wink:

I never knew this about the flamethrower. My mod is modified for lots of the Ming stuff, to where the original ending is not even possible so I don't know how it compares.

I had the opposite problem, she dies instantly to 1 point of damage from the flametrower. I hate it and it is very hacky but I made her take 1 point of damage on dialogue end and it somehow seems to workaround the issue. But at some point I just had to bite the bullet and get the mod released.

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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2020, 01:28:40 am »
I seem to be having trouble installing this mod


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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2020, 02:00:57 am »
I have no idea what i doing wrong


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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2020, 03:06:36 am »
I have no idea what i doing wrong

Can you explain the trouble area? Are the installation instructions on the Nexus page not clear, and if not what part is not clear? Are you having trouble with the 7Zip archive? Are you having trouble with the CMD file that installs the mod and creates the desktop shortcut?

In general:
  • Unzip the archive into some VTMB directory where a Unofficial Patch is already installed, there will be a Vampire.exe file in this directory.
  • When the archive is extracted there will be a Undisciplined Caitiff Install.cmd file in the directory where you extracted the archive to, double click on it and it will run the installer.
  • Answer any questions the installer asks and resolve any errors it reports. Run the installer CMD file again when the errors are resolved.
  • Launch the mod from the Desktop shortcut it creates.

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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2020, 09:48:51 am »
I just extracted the zip file to where i have the UP and the installer could not be extracted i get this error "Cannot open output file : Access denied


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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2020, 10:06:02 am »
I just extracted the zip file to where i have the UP and the installer could not be extracted i get this error "Cannot open output file : Access denied
Looks like a windows permissions... are you administrator? try extracting files into a temporal folder...

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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2020, 11:11:07 am »
@Norrwin: The changelog says something about NPCs giving you info about the story progression. How do you do that without new voice-overs?

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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2020, 03:28:02 pm »
I just extracted the zip file to where i have the UP and the installer could not be extracted i get this error "Cannot open output file : Access denied
Looks like a windows permissions... are you administrator? try extracting files into a temporal folder...

Good advice and I think likely correct. I would encourage always having VTMB installed in user created folders as the UP frees us from all ties to Steam (or other system access issues). My entire Steam library is also in user folders but it is nice that the UP makes VTMB entirely portable.

@Norrwin: The changelog says something about NPCs giving you info about the story progression. How do you do that without new voice-overs?

I looked in the VTMB Mod Dev Guide for Output options and I thought option 4 was the only decent choice so I used that.

Edit: It is supposed to be for min/maxers so they can know what the Story_State is ingame. Although watching Twitch streams I see players using the console liberally, one had notarget on and was saying how sad the combat was. Which I totally don't understand but oh well, it's an option and a choice.
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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2020, 05:43:30 pm »
I looked in the VTMB Mod Dev Guide for Output options and I thought option 4 was the only decent choice so I used that.
You mean they start with a small spoken sentence and then you attach whatever you want after? I found an example with Mercurio, but how does the result look? Is the Story State displayed in the top titles?

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Although watching Twitch streams I see players using the console liberally, one had notarget on and was saying how sad the combat was.
You mean you gave the player a way to use the console from inside the dialogue or what?
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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2020, 06:58:07 pm »
You mean they start with a small spoken sentence and then you attach whatever you want after? I found an example with Mercurio, but how does the result look? Is the Story State displayed in the top titles?
No I don't think so, the idea is to use the console hack to execute the "say" command and display some predefined text message in the upper left corner of the screen. I'm not sure what this area is called, is it top titles?, you get messages like lockpicking failed and such there. You can also set up some variables to make it look like a particular person said the line and such as well.

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You mean you gave the player a way to use the console from inside the dialogue or what?
No I only gave them a way to find out what value G.Story_State is from ingame.

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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2020, 07:12:00 pm »
I'm not sure what this area is called, is it top titles?
I call it top titles, I don't know if this is the official name :)!

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No I only gave them a way to find out what value G.Story_State is from ingame.
It wouldn't help them much without a list of what Story State means what even though...

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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2020, 07:31:30 pm »
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It wouldn't help them much without a list of what Story State means what even though...


It could help them, in my mod... in this case. The player never knows what the number is (G.Story_State) and it is up to them to determine how to use the information productively, it is a puzzle of sorts. If they know it is G.Story_State and try to use it thinking that way they will probably fail.


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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2020, 11:04:21 pm »
This is the problem i get when i doubled clicked it




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Re: The Undisciplined Caitiff Mod Released
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2020, 10:43:50 am »
This is the problem i get when i doubled clicked it

Edit: Thanks to your report I have uploaded a small hotfix to the mod Nexus page that should correct these issues.

Thank you for providing feedback and I am sorry for the difficulty. The problem is everything done in that directory structure needs to be elevated to run at Administrative Privileges. At this moment I don't have a fix for this but it is fairly easy to get around the problem.

But first I can not tell if the archive is extracted into the right place as I do not recognize the path structure. If the Undisciplined Caitiff Install.cmd file is in the same directory as Vampire.exe then it is in the correct place. If not, this will need to be corrected before moving on.
  • From the directory where Vampire.exe is, find the Undisciplined_Caitiff\pack011_v7.vpk file and copy it into the Vampire directory, then rename it to pack011.vpk, should end up as Vampire\pack011.vpk
  • Find the Desktop Shortcut to launch the UP and make a copy of it. Then edit (RMB->Properties) the Target: field and change Unofficial_Patch to Undisciplined_Caitiff
  • Probably will want to change the name of the shortcut to reflect this change as well.
  • Now the mod should run from the new Desktop Shortcut you created.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2020, 07:15:43 pm by Norrwin »

 

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