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Title: Purple Regent
Post by: The Shadow Man on November 27, 2018, 10:24:31 pm
So I've been experimenting with modifying Strauss, the Tremere Regent. My main plan was to make him less gaudy, seriously the red outfit is ridiculous. I took inspiration from his rather different concept art. I'm not 100% sure about it, I wonder what others think about it.

Images of the modified Regent below (yes I got rid of his glasses):
https://imgur.com/a/5ELgk6N (https://imgur.com/a/5ELgk6N)

For those unfamiliar with the concept art, see it at the link below:
https://imgur.com/w66WFaj (https://imgur.com/w66WFaj)
 
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: deicide on November 28, 2018, 01:44:36 am
I apologize, but that not only even louder than before, more so, it looks really gay to me. At least the red outfit did not stand out that much against the room and orange lighting. First time didn't even notice that someone else was there.
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: Barabbah on November 28, 2018, 06:54:13 am
I apologize, but that not only even louder than before, more so, it looks really not enough purple to me. With all that orange lightning I cannot tell so much difference (specially I'm seeing those screenshots from my phone and without a comparison photo too
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: deicide on November 28, 2018, 11:36:53 am
...not enough purple and lacks a pimp hat...
That.
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: The Shadow Man on November 28, 2018, 05:18:51 pm
*Clears throat* Purple is a colour of royalty as well piety and religious faith. It is still used today by the British royal family and by the Roman Catholic Church. It also has a number of other uses and is used for all sorts symbolism but this would take to long to explain in full and would most likely be lost on you Decide.

As for it being 'really gay', your immaturity never ceases to amaze me Decide.

My intention was to make him look less gaudy and I've never gone for 'oh lets make him black because its gothic and cool' thing. If anyone has any productive feedback related to this I'm all ears, except Decide your opinion has been made all too clear.

As for a comparison picture:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/v__/images/e/e9/Maximillian_Strauss.png/revision/latest?cb=20150919224355&path-prefix=vtmb (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/v__/images/e/e9/Maximillian_Strauss.png/revision/latest?cb=20150919224355&path-prefix=vtmb)
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: Barabbah on November 28, 2018, 06:34:56 pm
My intention was to make him look less gaudy and I've never gone for 'oh lets make him black because its gothic and cool' thing.

As for a comparison picture:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/v__/images/e/e9/Maximillian_Strauss.png/revision/latest?cb=20150919224355&path-prefix=vtmb (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/v__/images/e/e9/Maximillian_Strauss.png/revision/latest?cb=20150919224355&path-prefix=vtmb)

1 point made :P
2 I'll watch them, one next the other, when I'll have my pc since in my phone I cannot put two pictures one next the other



...not enough purple and lacks a pimp hat...
That.


I didn't wrote a pimp hat :P
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: The Shadow Man on November 29, 2018, 12:42:27 am
1 point made :P
2 I'll watch them, one next the other, when I'll have my pc since in my phone I cannot put two pictures one next the other
Black outfits can look good but I feel some people just do it to be 'gothic and cool'.
There may be room for improvement or may completely scrap it, not sure yet.
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: deicide on November 29, 2018, 05:51:41 am
I'm well aware of this color symbolism, meant it does not look in the context like anything that was intended. For the first, it's of colder shade while the whole room is the opposite, which is not the case on the reference pic. The new regent feels out of place here.
Royal purple is supposed to be of different, warm shade, that one is more violet than what's usually considered the former (and purple in general). Another problem, not only out of pallete, it's obviously modern and synthetic, so stands out against vintagey furniture even more.
Purposefully used this word in it's dated meaning, suggesting that he does not look noble, yet even more showy than before, not to say pretentious. Granted, the joke in a bad taste.

The tone is alright by itself, but unless you intend to adjust room textures as well, it does not work to me. Alternatively, burgundy or something similar could fit better, probably.

I didn't wrote a pimp hat :P
Such as I didn't request moar purple either.
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: Barabbah on November 29, 2018, 08:37:44 am
I didn't wrote a pimp hat :P
Such as I didn't request moar purple either.


Sorry for the misunderstanding
I just "quoted" your answer as a citation for my answer, but since I never used the quote menu and seeing you using the quote menu and adding stuff I thought it was some joke so I joked myself
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: The Shadow Man on November 29, 2018, 03:49:01 pm
...

Ok that's more like it. Fair point on the shade however I do think the purple is less 'attention seeking' than the red and that a brighter purple would be even less subtle.  Regardless your opinion has been noted.
In any case the idea for purple comes from the concept art which I always thought looked better than the finished Regent.
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: deicide on November 29, 2018, 05:25:15 pm
Not brighter, less vibrant (dirtier, in other words). Like, 1-0-0 or 1-0-1 could be considered more vibrant, compared to, say, 18-12-6. Colors with more red component are visually brighter, so the brightness should be turned down in order to keep the same apparent brightness.
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: Barabbah on November 30, 2018, 02:26:34 pm
I tried to make it myself
First of all I gave a touch to his face to resemble more the original concept art, then I tested 3 differente purples. I wasn't satisfied with none of these, but nevertheless I've included all in the zip, at the end of the Deep Regent directory (lame pun, I know) along with the ugly pimp reskin. Hope you like em
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: Barabbah on November 30, 2018, 02:35:22 pm
PS someone knows how to change the fire to the purple light on the top outside of the chantry?
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: The Shadow Man on November 30, 2018, 02:55:03 pm
Nice work Barabbah. The pimp one made me laugh, its like a completely different person. I've given it another go myself, making the outfit a bit darker and clean it up a little.
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: Barabbah on November 30, 2018, 03:04:32 pm
Your dress actually worked way better mine (despite without the yellow scribble on the back), try to put the face I've added on the zip :D
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: The Shadow Man on November 30, 2018, 03:34:16 pm
Your dress actually worked way better mine (despite without the yellow scribble on the back), try to put the face I've added on the zip :D

You don't appear to have modified the face texture, unless your talking about the Pimp version.
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: Barabbah on November 30, 2018, 03:43:34 pm
The first picture, the eyebrows are a bit closer to the concept art
Okay, the difference is minimal :|
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: The Shadow Man on November 30, 2018, 04:17:55 pm
The first picture, the eyebrows are a bit closer to the concept art
Okay, the difference is minimal :|

Honestly I can barely see his eyebrows as it is.
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: Barabbah on December 01, 2018, 11:27:14 am
this pic sums my slight edit in his face, I hope it's more clear now (even if it was pointless)
Title: Re: Purple Regent
Post by: The Shadow Man on December 01, 2018, 01:03:18 pm
this pic sums my slight edit in his face, I hope it's more clear now (even if it was pointless)

Now that you mention it. I thought there was something different about his face, that's it, I see it now. Oh I meant I can barely see the eyebrows in my game.
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