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Offline IanW

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Character sheet clan symbols: help?
« on: October 14, 2017, 03:53:22 pm »
I've been tinkering with the clan symbols as they appear in the top left corner the character sheet and the character info page.

Basically: They all have the same colour gradient, so I thought I'd see how it looked with the more official colour gradients, which differ for each clan. As a bonus, I was able to make better use of the space and make several symbols slightly larger/clearer than they originally appeared.

I created them as .tga files, converted to .vtf, and generated a .vmt. I have them all in the correct folder. I initially had the lighting settings wrong in the vmt, which affected how it looked in-game, but once I corrected that.... I'm getting the original unaltered clan symbols.

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Do I have to generate ttz/tth files (and if so, how)?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Character sheet clan symbols: help?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2017, 05:14:13 pm »
I created them as .tga files, converted to .vtf, and generated a .vmt. I have them all in the correct folder. I initially had the lighting settings wrong in the vmt, which affected how it looked in-game, but once I corrected that.... I'm getting the original unaltered clan symbols.
You need to convert .tga to .tth/ttz instead of .vtf, otherwise game won't recognize it.
Btw, Bloodlines SDK has windows context menu options for this.

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Re: Character sheet clan symbols: help?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2017, 04:32:13 am »
I created them as .tga files, converted to .vtf, and generated a .vmt. I have them all in the correct folder. I initially had the lighting settings wrong in the vmt, which affected how it looked in-game, but once I corrected that.... I'm getting the original unaltered clan symbols.
You need to convert .tga to .tth/ttz instead of .vtf, otherwise game won't recognize it.
Btw, Bloodlines SDK has windows context menu options for this.

Much obliged; I was monkeying with the options inside the SDK's ttz/tga viewer, and it only included vtf/vmt options. It didn't occur to me to do it from the context menu. Thanks!
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Re: Character sheet clan symbols: help?
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2017, 09:16:33 am »
Btw, Bloodlines SDK has windows context menu options for this.

Much obliged; I was monkeying with the options inside the SDK's ttz/tga viewer, and it only included vtf/vmt options. It didn't occur to me to do it from the context menu. Thanks!
Yep, I've only found that only by accident, too.
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Re: Character sheet clan symbols: help?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2017, 02:10:06 pm »
IanW, did you have any success in improving the symbols? I would like to release the UP 9.9 before Halloween and might use this if it looks better...

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Re: Character sheet clan symbols: help?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2017, 04:51:18 pm »
The gradients aren't an exact match, partly due to how the targa files were saved, and probably partly due to the ttz conversion process. Close enough, though.

Brujah:


Toreador:


Tremere:


You can see the gradient now matches the gradient used for the title text for each clanbook, giving more of a subtly distinct feel to each clan. The symbols are also slightly larger -- and in some cases slightly more detailed -- than they were originally, making better use of the space.

Attached files go in Vampire The Masquerade - Bloodlines> Unofficial_Patch> materials> interface> charactermaintenance
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Re: Character sheet clan symbols: help?
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2017, 05:48:59 pm »
Very nice!

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Re: Character sheet clan symbols: help?
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2017, 09:51:27 pm »
Awesome

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Re: Character sheet clan symbols: help?
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2018, 08:35:04 am »
Nothing to do with character sheets, but more tinkering with clan symbols. I don't want to create a new thread every time I have a dumb idea, so it was either post here or in my "main menu clan particle" thread. :)

LaCroix claims to have served in Napolean's armies when he was alive, and the Napoleonic Wars lasted from 1803-1815. Granted he may have served outside of the Wars themselves, but I'm just looking at a ballpark date here: he was probably Embraced during the Victorian period.

By the time of the late Victorian (1880-1897), a set of clan sybmols distinct to the era were already in use. This was the Ventrue symbol, and probably the one most familiar to LaCroix during his formative years as vampire. Winged lions on either side, with the X bars giving the impression of several of the rods of rulership used in the modern symbol.

So I tried incorporating that classic symbol into his chambers to reinforce the feel of the sort of old-world nobility he's going for:



I'll probably have to tweak the height of the embossing a bit so it doesn't stand out as much, but I think it works well.
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Re: Character sheet clan symbols: help?
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2018, 03:24:48 pm »
Really, really nice work there.

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Re: Character sheet clan symbols: help?
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2018, 03:11:21 am »
Really, really nice work there.

Thanks!
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Re: Character sheet clan symbols: help?
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2018, 02:33:00 am »
The gradients aren't an exact match, partly due to how the targa files were saved, and probably partly due to the ttz conversion process. Close enough, though.
Have you tried explicitly converting tga -> DDS RGBA8888? Those gradient artifacts seems like lossy DDS DXT5 compression artifacts to me.
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