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Re: Some questions
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2022, 10:01:07 pm »
You are wrong about Brainwipe. It's actually quite a useful discipline and can be used successfully in some stealth missions. For example, in the Sabbat warehouse, with its help, you can completely drain the enemy without raising the alarm and without losing bonus experience points for stealth. Or in the parking lot, you can use this discipline on two opponents standing next to each other and quickly drain them both.  :cheesy:
In that case the description doesn't match the effects. Description says that people who have seen you will forget your presence, but once you have been seen the bonus is gone.
So it's actually someting like obfuscate light? You can come close to people unnoticed for a short time?
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Re: Some questions
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2022, 10:52:33 pm »
Let's figure it out. The description says: "All enemies within a small radius will think you've disappeared", nowhere does it say that the enemy must first see us in order to take us for invisible. They won't see us for a while, but they can hear us, as if they heard a noise somewhere. So yes, it will be possible to get close to the enemy for a short time and not be seen. In my opinion, everything is in order with the description of the discipline, it's just that some players greatly underestimate this discipline, because of which they may perceive it incorrectly.

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Re: Some questions
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2022, 02:22:03 pm »
Well, in my understanding "think I have disappeared" means they must have been aware of my presence.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2022, 02:42:21 pm by Wesp5 »
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Re: Some questions
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2022, 08:07:13 pm »
Resistance to feeding is useless in the tutorial since the enemies there are vampires. But you can change the script so that players should use the first level even if they have the second one.

For adding a posession-like level I'd suggest you remove Vanish, make Horror Vision level 3, and add Posession as level 4.
After all Brainwipe is one of the most useless disciplines, especially since using this doesn't help in missions where you get extra xp for not being detected.
How do you plan the target selection for Horror Vision and Nightmare? Everyone around the player (like presence), everyone in a cone in front of the player or everyone in an area around a main target (like Mass Suicide/Bedlam)?


I hope I can rework this soon (very probably this weekend....)
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Re: Some questions
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2022, 10:43:19 am »
I am back  :smile:


Sadly I had to remove Horror Vision: its fleeing feature caused NPCs to jump outside solid walls or replacing dialogs with default idles  :undecided:  So I picked the basic version of Dominate and started modding a test V2 from it....



Enchant
same as vanilla Trance
Vanish
same as vanilla Brainwipe
Mesmerize
moved to the 3rd slot, gives "hacking" penalties to enemies and the social bonuses to the vampire
Fear
like vanilla Possession but to more targets in a small cone radius
Nightmare
like vanilla Mass Suicide but in a cone radius


I hope to release it soon (maybe when Wesp will release the non-rc version of the UP 11.2)  :wink:
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Re: Some questions
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2022, 07:55:48 pm »
I've switched levels 4 and 5 and renamed the now 5th as Con Art. It's really fun to have a small army of goons fighting other goons  :razz: :razz: :razz:
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Re: Some questions
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2022, 08:29:42 pm »
Are you sure about the name? Ususally a con artist is someone who tricks people to get their money. How about something on the lines of "Betrayal"?
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Re: Some questions
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2022, 04:07:02 am »
Or perhaps "Formation", "Festival", "Shared Psychosis", "Folie a Deux", "Conscription", "Battalion" "Level the Field" "Strength in Numbers"

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Re: Some questions
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2022, 09:03:52 am »
Right. I'll have to change it. How about "Master Trickster"?
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Re: Some questions
« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2022, 11:06:22 am »
I like  "Conscription" best. But of course it's your descision.
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Re: Some questions
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2022, 01:23:23 pm »
I wanted something to reflect the deceiving side of the Ravnos. But the other names can be applied to some of the other levels  :chinscratch:
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Re: Some questions
« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2022, 01:44:22 pm »
I like  "Conscription" best. But of course it's your descision.


I ended up with this  :razz:  and the patch is uploaded, thanks for all the feedback and the help
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Re: Some questions
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2022, 07:47:06 pm »
I am once again resurrecting this topic. Sorry everybody  :tongue: :azn:


Recently I was looking again at the list of AI Schedules and I found out one unused level of Thaumaturgy.


I'm referring to the one which makes the target bleed from its eyes (and paralizing it in agony). Really cool effect.


I was thinking on using it on Mortis on my mod but I was wondering some stuff.... Have any of you already tried it? Does it have any weird side effects? As far as I have seen it doesn't end neither if you attack the agonizing target (but maybe it can be fixed somehow).
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Re: Some questions
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2022, 09:03:03 pm »
Have any of you already tried it? Does it have any weird side effects?
The Unofficial Patch plus already uses this as effect for enemies that are partially immune to Blood Purge.

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Re: Some questions
« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2022, 02:58:14 am »
Nice, didn't know about that :P


Nevertheless I will try to use it as a main effect  :grin:
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