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Offline tarulu

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Unanswered Storyline Questions
« on: December 31, 2019, 12:09:56 PM »
since bloodline 2 is coming out soon there is going to be a lot of talk about bloodlines 1 and perhaps in meantime we can contact the people behind the first version of the game and ask them some questions.

its highly possible that we don't get any answers but all the same it wont hurt to try so i already asked Wesp to do us all a Favour and if he got any chance to talk he asks some questions which may help to restore & recreate content.

so what questions do you have from first version?and i mean more than just who was the "Friend" sending you emails,i mean about Plot,Characters,Quests,etc...

i start first...why zombies in Hollywood were rising? perhaps it was because Gehenna but why hollywood then?necromancers can raise zombies so maybe it was a Giovanni thing.

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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2019, 12:26:50 PM »
Maybe they are trying to make a protest.
"We want our fair share of our movies sold in DVD!" or sh*t like that....
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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2019, 03:38:49 PM »
Why was Jack helping Cain ? What did he gain ? Did he believe there was a bond or some loyalty he had to acquiesce to ?

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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2019, 05:49:08 PM »
The real question is why Cain helped Jack. Maybe he's after all a symphatizer of the anarch's cause, who knows?
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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2019, 05:59:02 PM »
The real question is why Cain helped Jack. Maybe he's after all a symphatizer of the anarch's cause, who knows?

I thought it was the other way around... it seemed like Jack was helping Cain. In the end Jack says that everything went as he (meaning Cain) predicted. So clearly Cain was calling the shots there.

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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2019, 06:24:57 PM »
That's another good point of view
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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2020, 12:37:42 AM »
My interpretation is that Caine did this as a test to see if the Kindred are worth saving in Gehenna. Like will they destroy each other or work together if something like the sarcophagus  happens! Jack goes with is as he is known to love making trouble in Camarilla cities...

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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2020, 01:27:37 AM »
What makes me wonder is was Jack even involved when the information was provided to Johansen in Turkey (where Cain was habituating in a cave).  The games sures seems to allude to Jack meeting the cab driver in LA ("I just met this guy ---").  It may be that Jack was recruited into the scheme late. 

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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2020, 01:57:49 AM »
What makes me wonder is was Jack even involved when the information was provided to Johansen in Turkey (where Cain was habituating in a cave).  The games sures seems to allude to Jack meeting the cab driver in LA ("I just met this guy ---").  It may be that Jack was recruited into the scheme late.

A good point... but I find it deeply unlikely considering how Jack is conveniently there at the beginning to hold your hand and guide you through the very first stage of being a kindred. That dude was in it from the start.

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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2020, 10:06:13 AM »
What makes me wonder is was Jack even involved when the information was provided to Johansen in Turkey (where Cain was habituating in a cave).

This will be answered in the Prelude mod, and yes, both is kind of true :)!

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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2020, 12:04:31 AM »
i guess you don't get jack and Caine scene if you go with stratuss or eastern vampires so in that case their plan didn't work at all.

here are some more:
what was the deal with Carl?he only has few lines but it seems there was a bigger plan for him.

whats the deal with empty or unused Santa monica buildings? it seems it has the most unfinished ones which is strange since santa monica is the first hub in game and they had more time to work on it.

i have to say i was really disappointed with the room that has gaming machines when i first played i thought there would be something like pinball mini game but the room has no use at all and thats another thing that puzzles my mind.

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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2020, 12:49:32 AM »
i guess you don't get jack and Caine scene if you go with stratuss or eastern vampires so in that case their plan didn't work at all.

i have to say i was really disappointed with the room that has gaming machines when i first played i thought there would be something like pinball mini game but the room has no use at all and thats another thing that puzzles my mind.

Yeah, I thought that too or at least a joke, like seeing the three stooges with chainsaws (as per the later Jack statement).  But then, Troika had a reputation of having trouble finishing projects often making severe changes late in the cycle so they were under constant pressure to finish.  They likely didn't have time. 

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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2020, 10:24:51 AM »
what was the deal with Carl? he only has few lines but it seems there was a bigger plan for him.

Who is Carl?

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whats the deal with empty or unused Santa monica buildings?

Which do you mean? I added maps for all that are mentioned on the bus stops, the others are just scenery!

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i have to say i was really disappointed with the room that has gaming machines when i first played i thought there would be something like pinball mini game but the room has no use at all and thats another thing that puzzles my mind.

I think I read somewhere that they did indeed plan minigames in the arcade, but cut this early on...

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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2020, 10:43:03 AM »
I supposed they had some ideas for madame Liotta too, she was mencioned several times and finally, is not present in the game.

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Re: Unanswered Storyline Questions
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2020, 10:57:59 AM »
Carl is the bartender in The Asylum

yes i know you did that,that's great but i mean what troika wanted to do with them?i am mostly interested in fortune teller in pier which i always thought that would be a mage since we have ghosts,vampires,ghouls,eastern vamps,werewolfs and zombies and i guess the only thing missing is a mage.


well that's too bad...the room is empty and you can't even destroy machines in there.


who is liotta?

 

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