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Offline Sabbat_stalker

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Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« on: October 29, 2015, 01:43:20 PM »
At least paradox are planning on doing something with white wolf IP
Who knows maybe they will allow project vaulderie  :vampwink:
In my mind this is good news I mean it can't be as worse as CCP right ?
What are your thoughts ?

source : http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/10/29/paradox-white-wolf/

Offline Michael

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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2015, 01:59:27 PM »
Still can't believe this actually happened ...  :cometome:
Paradox Interactive is a great publisher and I'm sure they'll make good use of the IP.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2015, 07:31:13 AM by Michael »

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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2015, 02:07:31 PM »
At least paradox are planning on doing something with white wolf IP
Who knows maybe they will allow project vaulderie  :vampwink:
In my mind this is good news I mean it can't be as worse as CCP right ?
What are your thoughts ?

source : http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/10/29/paradox-white-wolf/

I'm of mixed feelings.

On one hand, Paradox Interactive's focus has been on historical strategy games, which is not what I'm looking for from a vampire game. On the other hand, they have many smaller companies they publish games for and have good relationships with so maybe a decent single player vampire game could come our way.

On one hand, it'll be nice to play another quality vampire/wod single player story. On the other, this just isn't where gaming should be.

At the end of the night, though, I guess it's a good thing the IP is at least back out there in the world with the chance that someone will use it to make a game once again, even if it's not the game I want.
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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2015, 02:20:36 PM »
This was my first stop after reading the news on RPS. I have only known about VTM since February, but lurking here for all these months and reading all the despondent threads about the canceled projects has made me feel very connected to every new twist and turn. I sincerely hope everything works out for the best.
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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2015, 02:51:06 PM »
I'm of mixed feelings.

On one hand, Paradox Interactive's focus has been on historical strategy games, which is not what I'm looking for from a vampire game. On the other hand, they have many smaller companies they publish games for and have good relationships with so maybe a decent single player vampire game could come our way.

On one hand, it'll be nice to play another quality vampire/wod single player story. On the other, this just isn't where gaming should be.

At the end of the night, though, I guess it's a good thing the IP is at least back out there in the world with the chance that someone will use it to make a game once again, even if it's not the game I want.

Vampire Dark Ages is better than none and it was fun in VTMR. That said I do hope they will try to do modern nights.. after all they do have access to the talent needed to produce these kinds of assets.

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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2015, 03:03:29 PM »
All I can say is: HELL YES!

I'm very optimistic about this news, however I really hope that they drop this MMO nonsense, and make a solid single player rpg in the style of Bloodlines, but spanning through several historical periods like in Redemption.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2015, 03:07:18 PM by Saphrax »

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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2015, 03:32:09 PM »
All I can say is: HELL YES!

I'm very optimistic about this news, however I really hope that they drop this MMO nonsense, and make a solid single player rpg in the style of Bloodlines, but spanning through several historical periods like in Redemption.

Who knows, for singleplayer adventure games nowadays people expect something with a production value of Assassin's Creed, Deus Ex :HR or Skyrim etc .. That is not easy to do successfully and requires even more investment than MMO I think..

I just hope they won't be like CCP,  even if they release something that is imperfect, as long as it is good game-play and highly modifiable I think the community would be happy.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2015, 03:42:34 PM by Radical21 »

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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2015, 04:15:47 PM »
Considering how much disappointment we've seen under CCP's ownership, I'm having a hard time seeing any downside with Paradox taking the reigns.

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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2015, 04:25:45 PM »
This is great news and as Paradox’s VP of Acquisition & Portfolio Strategy Shams Jorjani said, it's "gonna be great to give it some fresh blood". I've really enjoyed playing with the mods, but they can only add so much and Bloodlines is notoriously difficult to mod. I don't know what this will lead to, but it sure is a lot better than CCP's squatting behavior, neither doing something themselves or letting anyone else do something with the IP's. As it happens, I'm also Swedish, just like Paradox, so that's an additional nice surprise (as a Ventrue, I claim some of the credit/bask in the glory for that reason :P).
« Last Edit: October 29, 2015, 04:33:23 PM by Ventrueloquist »

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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2015, 04:48:09 PM »
With Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity published by Paradox chances should be good that Paradox approaches Obsidian for a possible sequel to Bloodlines? I mean, fucking KOTOR 2 and Fallout: New Vegas should be prove enough that Obsidian can do First Person/Third Person RPGs like VTMB?
Also, Tim Cain.

Another developer that could pull it off (imho) would be CDPROJEKTRED, but they probably are too focused on getting their Cyberpunk RPG done over the next few years.

And if anything, at least the Vaulderie guys should be able to continue with their Overhaul project.

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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2015, 05:05:47 PM »
We live in interesting times it seems. My personal hope would be they could do like Redemption did have a SP game with a community attached to set up your own RPG using their tools. I had some great multi player sessions before the plug was pulled

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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2015, 05:21:29 PM »
I'm personally ecstatic with this news, I really do hope Paradox make good on their promises in the press releases to engage with the communities of WOD. I'm currently preparing a newsletter to send out to the forum members via email. EDIT: Sig's done it already!
We live in interesting times it seems. My personal hope would be they could do like Redemption did have a SP game with a community attached to set up your own RPG using their tools. I had some great multi player sessions before the plug was pulled
It is still possible to play online using Tunngle and selecting 'lan' instead of 'Internet' in the game multiplayer menu. I personally play each week on a Friday night on a chronicle that has been running since the days of WON.NET, courtesy of Tom Rogers, a very devoted storyteller. There's not many games released in this day and age that have that option for when an official online service dies, I would hope Paradox would take note here if/when releasing remasters!
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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2015, 05:28:15 PM »
This is nothing but good news.  Even if the whole thing was bought for under $10 million, which is what it looks like, a company (especially one the size of Paradox) doesn't spend that kind of money without having some plan in place to make it back.

Project Vaulderie? No, that's not gonna happen (it was an ill-conceived idea from the start, to put it kindly). An MMO? Probably not.

Single player cRPG's? Hell yeah! The market needs some, especially now that The Witcher has wound down and Fallout 4 is about to launch. This might be a great window for a developer to sneak a few AA titles out into the marketplace.

And at this point, I think moddable games have proven their popularity, so I'd be surprised if whatever titles come out don't include a version of the dev toolkit to help modders keep the game going. My head is still shaking from conversations I've had with certain members of the 'the community' who refuse to accept that lack of a proper toolkit is what keeps Bloodlines (and Redemption) from having larger mod communities.
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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2015, 05:30:02 PM »
With Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity published by Paradox chances should be good that Paradox approaches Obsidian for a possible sequel to Bloodlines? I mean, fucking KOTOR 2 and Fallout: New Vegas should be prove enough that Obsidian can do First Person/Third Person RPGs like VTMB?
Also, Tim Cain.

Another developer that could pull it off (imho) would be CDPROJEKTRED, but they probably are too focused on getting their Cyberpunk RPG done over the next few years.

And if anything, at least the Vaulderie guys should be able to continue with their Overhaul project.

I'd rather anyone but Obsidian. Until they get something else, I consider New Vegas their 'fluke'. KotOR 2 was a good game, but very unfinished, just like Neverwinter Nights 2. Still, an unfinished but moddable game is better than the "no game of any kind" that's been released under CCP.
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Re: Paradox buys White wolf from CCP
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2015, 05:35:56 PM »
With Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity published by Paradox chances should be good that Paradox approaches Obsidian for a possible sequel to Bloodlines? I mean, fucking KOTOR 2 and Fallout: New Vegas should be prove enough that Obsidian can do First Person/Third Person RPGs like VTMB?
Also, Tim Cain.

I agree with this and I believe in a few years we will see a game and hopefully Vampire the Masquerade:Bloodlines 2.

Obsidian is probably my favorite studios and has SUCH a great history of producing the BEST RPG's so it would EPIC to see them develop it.