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Title: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: chowmanfu on October 03, 2017, 12:06:04 PM
Hello! I've just started playing Bloodlines, again. The last time I played was about a decade ago. I'm using both the UP 9.8 and Extreme patches. It's fun.

I found a 'madhouse' in Grout's mansion that wasn't there before. The entrance is in the room just before the room with the phonograph and Grout's imprisoned wife.

I completed what I could and can't find a solution to the 2nd telephone call. I can't find any information on this 'madhouse' through web searches.

Ten years ago I would've suffered looking around the 'madhouse' for the answer. Now I'm older and don't have the time to be walking in circles with a mouse.

I joined the forum, just now, just for help. I work ten hour shifts for the rest of the week. Can someone help me?
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Malkav on October 03, 2017, 02:31:44 PM
You went in via the exit. So you can't get everywhere. The entrance is behind the locked door in the corridor with the cells. The room where you also find the crate with ammo.
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Nanaloma on October 04, 2017, 12:33:26 AM
You went in via the exit. So you can't get everywhere. The entrance is behind the locked door in the corridor with the cells. The room where you also find the crate with ammo.

Isn't that just a passageway where you can look down into the cells as you pass? 
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: chowmanfu on October 04, 2017, 03:35:41 AM
Thanks Malkav!

I didn't realize there was another route through the mansion. What's with all the furniture stuck on the ceiling? Will I be missing anything nice if I skip this part? I've already pulled the lever on the back of the mausoleum (where the sunlight strikes) and received two phone calls.
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Wesp5 on October 04, 2017, 09:35:23 AM
I didn't realize there was another route through the mansion.

It was pretty much conceived as a shortcut to avoid the fighting in the cellar with the cells.

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What's with all the furniture stuck on the ceiling?

That's just weird Malkavian furniture like the whole maze which we build after beta screenshots.

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I've already pulled the lever on the back of the mausoleum (where the sunlight strikes) and received two phone calls.

Once you are out of the mansion and through the red room you are basically out already, so there is not much left...
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Malkav on October 04, 2017, 09:37:36 AM
You went in via the exit. So you can't get everywhere. The entrance is behind the locked door in the corridor with the cells. The room where you also find the crate with ammo.

Isn't that just a passageway where you can look down into the cells as you pass?
Nope, the entrances to that passage are two hidden doors in the wall of the corridor. One is close to the door to the storage room with the maze entrance, the other near the exit of the cell block.

chowmanfu, unless Wesp has hidden something so well that I didn't find it, you have seen the most interesting parts of the maze. The rest is some more weird architecture.
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: chowmanfu on October 09, 2017, 04:18:20 AM
Thanks guys! Sorry about the late reply! I really do work a lot. If I had kept to programming when I was younger I would have loved to contribute to Wesp's work. Playing this game 10 years later is a blast. I can't tell you how much I cursed the crawl up the Skyline shafts just to check my email...arghhhh.
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Raving_Neonate on October 09, 2017, 09:45:59 AM
The addition of this "Malkavian Maze" is a refreshing experience: you get an insight into Grout's framed murder I guess, when he tried to cover up his retreat from the real world. Other than this, I cannot really find a reason for the newspaper that is found in the small chapel. ;)
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Wesp5 on October 09, 2017, 11:31:40 AM
Other than this, I cannot really find a reason for the newspaper that is found in the small chapel. ;)

You are guessing correctly ;).
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: DarkZephyr on April 27, 2019, 08:55:05 AM
This is some necrobumping but I just discovered this for the first time and I HAD to praise it.  What a nice addition!  It was genuinely creepy, too! Mannequins always creep me out.  I was genuinely startled when I left the room and they were all standing there.  lol  I jumped about 2 feet!   AND we get to find out how Grout faked his death and we find out what happened to Kent.  VERY cool! 

I am curious to know who "Mother" is! 
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Barabbah on April 27, 2019, 02:06:03 PM
Can I be honest? I really prefer to do the vanilla route AND the maze. Groutville is not tedious as the warrens which needed a shortcut. I think it can be better if all these levels can be played on a single playthrough....
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Ghanima_Atreides on April 27, 2019, 02:26:57 PM
That maze (along with the library) is the best restored place in the game...I love how utterly bizarre it is, and the mausoleum room is both so beautiful and deadly (it has great music too). It's also the only time we see sunlight in the game.
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Wesp5 on April 27, 2019, 02:40:06 PM
That maze (along with the library) is the best restored place in the game...

Thanks, the intitial maze was created by EntenSchreck from some beta screenshots...

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I love how utterly bizarre it is, and the mausoleum room is both so beautiful and deadly (it has great music too). It's also the only time we see sunlight in the game.

... but the later rooms and especially the mausoleum are all mine :)!
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Barabbah on April 27, 2019, 08:12:59 PM
That maze (along with the library) is the best restored place in the game...

Absolutely (although I would also list the chateau)
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Ghanima_Atreides on April 27, 2019, 08:17:52 PM
That maze (along with the library) is the best restored place in the game...

Absolutely (although I would also list the chateau)

Wait...what chateau? XD
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Barabbah on April 27, 2019, 08:48:39 PM
That maze (along with the library) is the best restored place in the game...

Absolutely (although I would also list the chateau)

Wait...what chateau? XD

Anarch ending, Nines won't be recovering on the luckee star motel (which, by the way, I suppose it's closed for its bad reputation of having seen murder scenes in each rooms).
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Ghanima_Atreides on April 27, 2019, 09:14:42 PM
Ahh that one! I actually finished this ending a few days ago, but it had been so long since I had played it I had forgotten the chateau wasn't vanilla!

It's a shame custom havens aren't possible, and even if they were it would be a bit late in the game by that point, but I could imagine a Toreador Anarch who had helped Isaac taking up residence in a ritzy place like that...
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Highwayman667 on May 02, 2019, 04:37:54 AM
Anarch ending, Nines won't be recovering on the luckee star motel (which, by the way, I suppose it's closed for its bad reputation of having seen murder scenes in each rooms).

Kinda makes you wonder why that place isn't thrice hunted, unlike the Ocean House !
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: Barabbah on May 02, 2019, 06:52:03 AM
Well, it's hunted. But, instead of supernatural shit, by rotten luck. Even if it's called the luckee star hotel.
Title: Re: Malkavian Madhouse in Grout's Mansion
Post by: z on May 27, 2019, 04:48:46 PM
Hi !
This restored maze should be the the ONLY route avalaible IMO haha ! The vanilla route is boring (big empty rooms, cells and more cells...)
But this maze, I like it ! This is the only route that makes you really understand the degree of insanity of Grout x)