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Offline PGM1961

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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2011, 05:42:48 am »
Um, dude... she killed her daddy.  If she called me 'daddy', I'd be out the door.
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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2011, 06:11:31 am »
Hmmm... good point... Better chain her down, just to be safe!   :vampwink:
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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2011, 09:31:10 am »
If you were able to sleep with Jeanette after the Ocean House, you already have... Therese was in there too, watching with disgust.

No, she wasn't. There is no indication whatsoever that one sister knows what the other does when she is not active. Otherwise the whole "pendant thrown into the ocean" bit wouldn't have worked.

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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2011, 12:40:41 pm »
"I didn't do it!"
"Jeanette claimed you did it for her.  But let's say I believe you."  (Dialogue after the Gallery Noir.)

Therese and Jeanette talk to each other all the time.  It's how 'they' rationalize knowing what the other sister has done.  The first time you go upstairs and talk to Therese, you overhear an argument between them.  They even send emails to each other.  I don't think it's too much of a stretch to assume that Jeanette would mention your little tryst to her sister, just to gross her out.

But it's all just mental juggling, to keep them from admitting to themselves that they're one person.  Subconsciously, Therese already knows everything that Jeanette does, and vice versa.  Even if one tried to keep a secret, the other would 'suspect' that she did something wrong, and harass her until she 'confessed'.

Speaking of the sisters, in the audio files from the vanilla game, there are a few files where Therese mentions her mother, and yells that "You'll never control me again!"  But I've never heard these in actual dialogue with Therese.  Has anyone?  What dialogue 'path' do you have to take to hear these little tidbits?
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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2011, 07:27:00 pm »
Therese and Jeanette talk to each other all the time.  It's how 'they' rationalize knowing what the other sister has done.

No, they talk to each other and the other sister knows only what the other one tells her. The pendant situation clearly shows that...

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What dialogue 'path' do you have to take to hear these little tidbits?

You need to choose the dialogue where you threaten to kill her...

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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #50 on: May 02, 2011, 08:48:09 pm »
Therese and Jeanette talk to each other all the time.  It's how 'they' rationalize knowing what the other sister has done.
No, they talk to each other and the other sister knows only what the other one tells her. The pendant situation clearly shows that...

I think we interpret this very differently.  If I were in the game, I would not trust Jeanette to keep any 'secrets' from Therese... especially not if my life depended on it.  Therese may not consciously know about the secret until Jeanette tells her; but subconsciously, she knows Jeanette is hiding something from her... and Jeanette may very well be unable to keep from telling her sister whatever it is, if Therese puts on the pressure.

Besides, perhaps not all of their 'conversations' are verbal... some of it may be internal.  It seems logical that each sister visualizes the other as a separate person when they talk, so maybe this hallucinatory sister can whisper in their head, too.
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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #51 on: May 03, 2011, 12:21:38 am »
I am of the opinion that one does not know what the other is doing unless the other sister tells her so. If both of them knew what the other was doing, this wouldn't be Multiple Personality Disorder, just some sort of twisted bi-polar thing. However, I also think that the Jeanette personality, being an all-around flirt, attention whore, and jealous younger sister, often can't resist telling the Therese personality what she's been doing to piss her off. It's just not as much fun unless someone else knows, and Therese gives the reaction that Jeanette thrives on. There's also the fact that those laptops are sitting out there in the open - I can't imagine either sister would just leave the other's private computers alone when they're such tempting targets. The phone rings, and it's for Therese, but Jeanette answers? Well, they have the same vocal chords - who can tell the difference over the phone?
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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2011, 12:29:16 am »
The phone rings, and it's for Therese, but Jeanette answers? Well, they have the same vocal chords - who can tell the difference over the phone?

Maybe it is that Suspension of Disbelief thing, but between both their lines, they might have the same voice(we all know it was the same actress), but there is a difference between their voices. Even the conversation they have before you enter the room, you know that it isn't the same person speaking each line(which was likely intentional), as you've already heard Jeanette's voice, so you would obviously think the other voice is Therese.

Um, dude... she killed her daddy.  If she called me 'daddy', I'd be out the door.

She could call me anything, I'd just either start running, or hope I have Fortitude, If I'd ever see her with a shotgun, and a crazed look on her face - namely if she's staring at me, and the shotgun's doing the same.
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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #53 on: May 03, 2011, 07:06:53 am »
We really don't know which sister was setting us up.   If I'm not able to recreate a whole Malk, I generally arrange for Therese to survive - easier to predict and safe as long as you aren't perceived as crossing her.  She can even be nice to you. 

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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2011, 09:05:02 pm »
Maxus, I love your signatures of every character you make, however there's a grammar error in your Malkavian one. The first "to" should be "too."

Yes I'm a grammar nazi, lol.

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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2011, 08:47:02 pm »
Eh, nevermind.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2011, 09:28:40 pm by Rick Gentle »
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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2011, 08:05:19 pm »
OR MAAaAAAaaaYBE! There are just 3 toothbrushes there for the hell of it!
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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #57 on: September 22, 2011, 09:24:00 am »
OR MAAaAAAaaaYBE! There are just 3 toothbrushes there for the hell of it!

You know --- I have had as many as three toothbrushes at the ready at times in the past.  We do seem to read a lot into the simplest things.  Good point. 

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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #58 on: September 22, 2011, 09:49:03 pm »
But this is the World of Darkness, where it's the smallest details that you should pay attention to. They're the ones that turn out to be the creepiest, or the first clue in the long chain that leads you to realize that... vampires exist!!
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Re: In the upstairs bathroom at The Asylum...
« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2011, 02:11:39 am »
But this is the World of Darkness, where it's the smallest details that you should pay attention to. They're the ones that turn out to be the creepiest, or the first clue in the long chain that leads you to realize that... vampires exist!!

Or a dead end:  makes it more fun that way, not really knowing, doesn't it? 

 

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