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Offline Raving_Neonate

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Re: Developing a Character through More Lore or Quests...
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2017, 08:19:49 AM »
Either way, we should see more of VV and Gary in dialogue... both imply later interactions but none deliver in my opinion. I don't find VV annoying really; it was rather refreshing (and frankly surprising) to find a kindred still immersed in the human world to her degree and that is far more benevolent than others. This can be argued a bit since she asks the PC to eliminate the betrayer that purveyed inside information on kindred, but even if you convince Julius to leave LA and do not kill him, she will not ask for bloody proof. Because of this I am fond of her as a character quite a bit and want to see more of her. ;) Kindred do not need to be murderers to be interesting.
Some also argue that both the Voerman sisters are also irritating but really that is the name of the vamp clandestine game: manipulation in one particular way or another.
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Re: Developing a Character through More Lore or Quests...
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2017, 03:29:11 PM »
Jeanette and VV both use their sexuality to manipulate the player character while Terease just holds things over your head and acts like a bitch. Gary is simply interesting.
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Re: Developing a Character through More Lore or Quests...
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2017, 09:26:38 PM »
It's the World of Darkness everybody is a asshole on some level, it's all a subjective illusion as to who you consider a better person because they're all pretty awful people* really (not that I'm suggesting anybody here is an asshole, everybody is different with different personalities and emotional hang-ups, dislikes and things they can relate to etc, there's no shame in liking or disliking a character).
Chances are Bertum Tung for example (Edited because I'm Nosferatu racist) has done some nasty shit to survive at some point and establish a power base.

I think it's pretty weird how he was basically the only Vampire in a dying Santa Monica before the Sisters turned up, it's almost as if he might have been responsible.

*And to be clear they are excellent characters, just not great human beings.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2017, 10:14:22 AM by InTech »

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Re: Developing a Character through More Lore or Quests...
« Reply #63 on: July 17, 2017, 09:28:52 AM »
I think it's pretty weird how he was basically the only Vampire in a dying Santa Monica before the Sisters turned up, it's almost as if he might have been responsible.

Hm, I think you mean Bertram Tung by this and not Gary...

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Re: Developing a Character through More Lore or Quests...
« Reply #64 on: July 17, 2017, 07:47:52 PM »
I think it's pretty weird how he was basically the only Vampire in a dying Santa Monica before the Sisters turned up, it's almost as if he might have been responsible.

Hm, I think you mean Bertram Tung by this and not Gary...
Edited it because I'm Nossie racist.

I've been thinking about a VV backstory/boss fight.

Velvet Velour's, real name Susan Varuca (Anglicised version of Hungarian name Vargha).
Originally from New England, a child of first generation Hungarian immigrants, butchers by trade.
Susan was embraced at the age of 18 in the (last) 'graduation' ceremony at her Catholic all-girls school on July 18th 1879.

The Situation Surrounding Her Embrace
There were two larger political factors that led to to her embrace:
  • The church wished to dissolve the school due to majority of urban development moving away from it, making it more difficult for students to attend and less profitable.
  • The Sabbat wished to recruit and the Order of St Blaise was happy to oblige as it would mean the students would lose their deposits.
As a student, she was considered excellent and known by the faculty for her aggressive romantic poetry which caught the attention of the chapel, run in-part by the Order of St Blaise.
After reading some of her poetry to a man 'shrouded in darkness' Susan became a 'Blaise Girl', a hall monitor essentially.

The Day of the Embrace
The faculty (largely flesh constructs or vampires at this point) announced that the school will be holding a special day of celebration for the 'last' students to attend (even though it wasn't slated for closure for another three years which you'd think would raise some red flags but no).
On 'Graduation', the Blaise Girls kept the students calm in the individual classrooms while the Sabbat attacked embracing en-mass, room-by-room.
Disturbed by screaming she lost control of her room and was sucker punched to the floor by the rioting teens.
When the Sabbat came to her she was alone in that room having failed in her mind, she met the man in the shadows again and was embraced willingly.

On rebirth within an hour of dying she took on the highly sexualised persona of Vivian Valour a fictional character in one of her (not as good as her poems) short stories.

The remaining students and some 'guests' managed to hold out in an abandoned part of the school where the Near-Do-Wells, a girl gang, had established a gambling den.
VV's Sire faced the final death trying to assault that hold out, and the Sabbat along with VV scattered soon after, as the literal Cavalry arrived on the scene alerted by residents who saw fire on the horizon.

As Part of The Sabbat
VV was part of Nomadic Sabbat pack its hierarchy consisting of a Giovanni who had taken charge despite not being a member of the Sabbat, "I am merely following the Path of Bones" was his response when pressed on the issue.
A Tzimisce of a lower generation who preferred to take a backseat role, despite being a very powerful Vampire acting as both Priest and Ductus since the Giovanni was their unofficial leader.
Over time they cut a swathe through the world but the Path of Bones combined with feelings that she was inadequate as a Toreador, VV greatly envied the Tzimisce and his Vicissitude.

Defection
When opportunity presented itself VV successfully Diablerized the Tzimisce and burned the rest of her pack.
While on fire, burning alive the Giovanni cursed her to "The dead will rise where ever you go".
After observing and documenting his final death (the last time she would do this) VV travelled to the place many doomed creatives seek; Hollywood.
And followed the path of Humanity from there on out.
Rumour has it some of her dancers are actually flesh constructs.

How This Results in a Boss Battle

Quest Start Location:
A computer in the Nosferatu Warrens
If you can hack it the computer gives you slightly more vague version of the above, basically the Nosferatu have worked out why the Zombies keep rising up, this has no consequences and no new quest yet.
However when you do the Library Quest you can talk to the Lasombra about the information you found.
A new quest starts "Susan Varuca's Bounty"

Solution:
1) Kill Vivian Valour
2) Talk Vivian into laying low for awhile.
3) Go back and kill the Lasombra

Opposition:
Dancers transform into flesh crafted warforms as does VV.

Reward:
1&2) Effectively become a Sabbat infiltrator so Sabbat ending is available without low humanity also big pile of cash.
3) Flesh crafted necklace that gives 1+ Dexterity 1+ Appearance
« Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 12:44:56 AM by InTech »

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Re: Developing a Character through More Lore or Quests...
« Reply #65 on: July 27, 2017, 07:42:11 AM »
Wow InTech - you took the matter seriously. ;) One question though: why did you chose Sabbat as her first "destination"?
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