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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] poony128SCREW on January 27, 2007, 02:13:00 AM
                So tell me about what was the most and least graphically impressive part of the game. I can tell you right now.
 
 Best - Seeing Strauss and his shadow cast against the carpet with the fireplace behind him
 
 Worst - I'll let you be the judge here. Make sure you enlarge to true size,
 
 <link>http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3732/badbadbadlp1.jpg</link>                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Tessera72751098 on January 27, 2007, 06:39:00 AM
                In Reply To #1
 
 <white>Here's a good one:</white>
 IMAGE REMOVED BY ADMIN
 
 <black>.</black>
 <white>Here's a not-so-good one:</white>
 accidentally removed this one, too...sorry!  feel free to add it again
 
 It's hard for me to pick a "best" and "worst." A lot of it seems to vary from the lighting in the scene, for one thing.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Warlock1234 on January 27, 2007, 08:49:00 AM
                I see you like your malk chick running butt naked around the city.                        

 

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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] NovitateAsherII on January 27, 2007, 09:01:00 AM
                haha! jeez she could shoot me and I wouldnt even notice the gun. Nice tactic                        

 

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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Tessera72751098 on January 27, 2007, 11:35:00 AM
                In Reply To #3
 
Warlock 42283596 posted:

 I see you like your malk chick running butt naked around the city.

 
 You betcha. She's a juicy little undead babe.
 
 I like to think of her body as being just one more level of Dementation at her disposal...                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] BlackRussian36 on January 27, 2007, 11:55:00 AM
                In Reply To #5
 
 
 Well if anyone would be running around naked, it would be a Malkavian.
 
                       

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Tessera72751098 on January 27, 2007, 11:15:00 PM
                In Reply To #6
 
BlackRussian36 posted:

 In Reply To #5
 Well if anyone would be running around naked, it would be a Malkavian.
 

 
 That's what I keep telling my girlfriend... but she still gives me nasty looks whenever I play that character. Women.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] BlackRussian36 on January 27, 2007, 11:31:00 PM
                In Reply To #7
 
Tessera posted:

 In Reply To #6
 
BlackRussian36 posted:

 In Reply To #5
 Well if anyone would be running around naked, it would be a Malkavian.
 

 
 That's what I keep telling my girlfriend... but she still gives me nasty looks whenever I play that character. Women.

 
 AFter reading the first sentence, half asleep, I thought you were going to head into another direction(like your girlfriend dresses up like a Malk, etc. etc. etc.).
 
 I'll close my mouth now.
 
 
 
 
 : )                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Skyra_to_Hollow on January 28, 2007, 03:20:00 PM
                In Reply To #2
 Aww, jeez.  There are pussy lips in that shot.  And you can practically see her clit.  I didn't say anything when somebody posted a shot of her bare ass, but now I don't have much of a choice.
 
 
 By the way, that is a hell of a re-skin.                        

 

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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on January 28, 2007, 03:32:00 PM
                In Reply To #11 on the "bloodlines graphics at their best and worst" thread...
 
Skyra to Hollow posted:

 In Reply To #2
 Aww, jeez.  There are pussy lips in that shot.  And you can practically see her clit.  I didn't say anything when somebody posted a shot of her bare ass, but now I don't have much of a choice.
 
 
 By the way, that is a hell of a re-skin.

 
 
 HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!                        

 

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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Kyadoshi on January 28, 2007, 12:56:00 AM
                In Reply To #8
 
 No no. Keep going. I think you're on to something.
                         

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Tessera72751098 on January 28, 2007, 01:13:00 AM
                In Reply To #9
 
Kyadoshi posted:

 In Reply To #8
 
 No no. Keep going. I think you're on to something.
 

 
 LOL... what..? About my girlfriend and Malks, you mean..? If she dresses up like anybody from VTMB (which she doesn't do), then it would have to be V.V.
 
 But only when we're alone and I have the hidden video cameras rolling...
 
                       

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Tessera72751098 on January 28, 2007, 05:37:00 PM
                In Reply To #11
 
Skyra to Hollow posted:

 In Reply To #2
 Aww, jeez.  There are pussy lips in that shot.  And you can practically see her clit.  I didn't say anything when somebody posted a shot of her bare ass, but now I don't have much of a choice.
 
 
 By the way, that is a hell of a re-skin.

 
 LOL... thanks. I started with someone else's Malk re-skin (I forget whose... it's old) and then just spruced it up a little. I'm glad you found the results... errrrm... worthy of note. Malk girls are definitely hotties, even if they are bonkers.
 
 TO ADMIN: sorry you felt the need to remove the pic. I didn't realize that it would be a problem, on a board for an adult game such as this one. I'll refrain from posting it again.
 
 EDIT: let's try these two pics instead...
 
 <white>GOOD graphics:</white>
 
 
 
 <white>BAD Graphics:</white>
 
 
 
                       

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Umnir on January 28, 2007, 06:28:00 PM
                I don't mind to see some ass 'n' titties but I have always preferred nude skins a bit.. nerdish? embarrassing?
 
 Well, except for nude barbarian berzerker skins that were too hot for vanilla rome total war. Wave those... swords of yours!                        

 

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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Skyra_to_Hollow on January 28, 2007, 06:46:00 PM
                In Reply To #13
 Yeah, it's pretty rare that I have to remove pictures from this site, but GameSpy sets the rules sad
 
 Now I gotta ask...whose hooha did you use as a photo reference for the texture?  Or did you draw it yourself?                        

 

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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Tessera72751098 on January 28, 2007, 07:27:00 PM
                In Reply To #15
 
Skyra to Hollow posted:
Now I gotta ask...whose hooha did you use as a photo reference for the texture?  Or did you draw it yourself?

 
 It was lifted from a photo and then color-matched and feather-edged into the texture. I'm an okay artist, but I don't trust myself to do as good a rendering as the real deal. So... my Malkie got the full treatment. I'm doing something similar lately with a Heather re-skin (which is turning out to be a bigger pain in the ass than I had anticipated). Heather is getting her chest re-done.
 
 I'd rather not say whose... errr... "hooha" it is. How about "a very pretty one..?" Good enough..? LOL. Oh and you wanna laugh..? A close-up shot of that particular part of the Malk re-skin is the number one most viewed pic in my entire VTMB gallery.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] RakishAzrael on January 28, 2007, 09:18:00 PM
                In Reply To #16
 
 it was very...lifelike...i have to say.                        

 

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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Tessera72751098 on January 28, 2007, 10:16:00 PM
                In Reply To #17
 
Azrael il Toreador posted:

 In Reply To #16
 
 it was very...lifelike...i have to say.

 
 Thanks. I did something similar with a Brujah PC...
 
 <red>WARNING - NUDITY. DO NOT CLICK IF OFFENDED:</red>
 
 http://www.tessmage.com/images/Brujah_minor_reskin_01.jpg
 
 Hey... she's a Brujah babe. If she wants to walk around with her jeans unbuttoned, then what the hell. I'd say something to her, but I don't wanna get my eyelashes tied to my ass hairs... or whatever it is that the pissed-off Brujah chicks do to ya.
 
 I also gave her a hot pink tank top and a plum colored wool cap. The pink-ish cap in the original version made it look as if her brain was popping out of the top of her skull.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] BlackRussian36 on January 28, 2007, 10:23:00 PM
                In Reply To #18
 
Tessera posted:

 In Reply To #17
 
Azrael il Toreador posted:

 In Reply To #16
 
 it was very...lifelike...i have to say.

 
 Thanks. I did something similar with a Brujah PC...
 
 <red>WARNING - NUDITY. DO NOT CLICK IF OFFENDED:</red>
 
 http://www.tessmage.com/images/Brujah_minor_reskin_01.jpg
 
 Hey... she's a Brujah babe. If she wants to walk around with her jeans unbuttoned, then what the hell. I'd say something to her, but I don't wanna get my eyelashes tied to my ass hairs... or whatever it is that the pissed-off Brujah chicks do to ya.
 
 I also gave her a hot pink tank top and a plum colored wool cap. The pink-ish cap in the original version made it look as if her brain was popping out of the top of her skull.

 
 I like the cap and the tank top, but for some reason I'm not feeling the unbuttoned jeans on the Brujah.  It might just be the placement though--maybe the "flower power" is a tad bit high.
 
                         

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Tessera72751098 on January 28, 2007, 10:35:00 PM
                In Reply To #19
 
 Could just be the camera angle -- maybe. I did my best to measure everything and set it in the right spot, but now that you mention it... I can see what you mean. I'll check it again later on and see if you're right.
 
 I'm slowly putting together a VTMB re-skin package for selected female characters, both PC's and NPC's. I'm not in any hurry with it... so it may be quite awhile before they're all finished. I tend to nitpick about such things before I finally release them. Case in point: my re-skin of a particular <orange>elf model</orange> for Oblivion. People bugged me for almost 2 months, before I finally decided they were good enough for my downloads page. I hate releasing something, only to have people tell me "this looks bad," or "that doesn't fit," or whatever.
 
 Meh... it's a hobby, I guess. I waste my time turning cute collections of pixels into sexpots. It beats collecting stamps, at least.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] s4nct1m0ny on January 29, 2007, 12:47:00 PM
                I'll be blunt here. This is absurd. Why would you want to reskin characters in such a manner? And who, just who, would pleasure themselves by looking at 3D objects from a game?
 
 Thank goodness the moderator removed that before I could see it. Because, believe it or not, there are kids here, and I am one of them. I know that the game contains swearing and references to carnal matter, but those are minor things and baredness is a line that is never crossed by the game.
 
 Just my two cents.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Kyadoshi on January 29, 2007, 01:44:00 PM
                In Reply To #21
 
 But somehow gunning down people or draining them to death is much much better than nudity?
 
 wow... just ... wow.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Tessera72751098 on January 29, 2007, 02:22:00 PM
                In Reply To #21
 
s4nct1m0ny posted:

 I'll be blunt here. This is absurd. Why would you want to reskin characters in such a manner? And who, just who, would pleasure themselves by looking at 3D objects from a game?

 
 I dunno... so tell me this: who would "pleasure themselves" (as you've put it) by looking at nude girls in Playboy magazines..? And why is my Malk re-skin the most popular screen shot in my website's entire photo gallery..? Obviously, people enjoy it very much.
 
 Because you know what, Sport..? Those nude bits you see on my skins came straight from Playboy centerfolds. Those ARE the real things. You are looking at an actual, live woman when you see those parts. So do I enjoy looking at them..? Yer damned tootin' I do. So do YOU... you're just programmed by a screwed-up society into believing that such things are "dirty." That's absurd, in my view.
 
 Please grow up and get over it. If you don't like seeing beautiful things, then don't look at them. Make sure you stay out of any art museums, too... because most of them are filled with nude sculptures and paintings and you might have a nudity-induced heart attack.
 
 Incidentally, the strength of your reaction says far more about you than it does about people who enjoy nudity: it says that you suffer from sexual insecurity and repression, thus you seek to impose your own shame upon others who do not suffer from such shame and guilt. Please keep that in mind and allow those of us who are better-adjusted to enjoy art for art's sake -- nude art included.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] StarWrecker. on January 29, 2007, 04:43:00 PM
                Ah, yes, the age-old debate.
 
 I believe it boils down to this: it's all about the repression of any expressions of sexuality.
 
 I know little of the ESRB system, but, here, any film or game that contains sex (pretty much, with some exceptions) automatically gets an Restricted-16 or Restricted-18 rating, and some films/games with no sex but appaling violence net an M15, which contains no restriction at all. (For some reason, games are more harshly judged than films, when films are often far more realistic, although the gap is narrowing now, but games still get the harsh treatment)
 
 Now, why is sex/nudity infinitely more heinous than violence? To be honest, it should be the other way around, as sex is a normal part of life. Is violence? No.
 
 I can harldy speak. I am only 17, and I play many R-18 games and watch many R-18 movies, so, I break the law. But, the fact that I am not a murdering raping monster, I think, shows just how dumb this censorship (particularly at the R-16/18 levels, where I think that the content isn't actually that bad for a 15 year old; they know it's all pretend, especially in the case of violence.)
 
 Now, finally for the issue at hand: Tessera's nude skins. It's just a little bit of virtual skin, parts of the body that are for some reason taboo (again, the society-ingrained repression of sexual expression), and if you are offended, that justifies the system, sadly, as it shows a lack of maturity,and makes my previous points moot.
 
 Woo! Circular argument, gotta love it!                        

 

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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Kyadoshi on January 29, 2007, 05:09:00 PM
                In Reply To #24
 
 /agree
 
 From
 A Gamers Manifesto by David Wong and Haimoimoi
 http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/games/manifesto.html
 
 "4. Nipples?
 
 Speaking of adult games, where are they? Politicians bemoan the bloodthirsty horror of video games, but really the standards are almost Victorian when compared to R-rated Hollywood fare such as Sin City and Kill Bill and Cinemax's Voyeur Safari IV: Dildo Island. You get a little harsh language and some comic-booky sprays of gore, but that's about it. There is an "AO" (Adults Only) ESRB rating for games, but when is the last time you saw it?
 
 We're not for speeding the moral degradation of the modern world, but imagine a Hollywood where only PG-13 movies could get made. Say goodbye to everything from Shindler's List to The Matrix."                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] SCMyDude on January 29, 2007, 06:06:00 PM
                In Reply To #25
 
Kyadoshi posted:

 In Reply To #24
 
 /agree
 
 From
 A Gamers Manifesto by David Wong and Haimoimoi
 http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/games/manifesto.html
 
 "4. Nipples?
 
 Speaking of adult games, where are they? Politicians bemoan the bloodthirsty horror of video games, but really the standards are almost Victorian when compared to R-rated Hollywood fare such as Sin City and Kill Bill and Cinemax's Voyeur Safari IV: Dildo Island. You get a little harsh language and some comic-booky sprays of gore, but that's about it. There is an "AO" (Adults Only) ESRB rating for games, but when is the last time you saw it?
 
 We're not for speeding the moral degradation of the modern world, but imagine a Hollywood where only PG-13 movies could get made. Say goodbye to everything from Shindler's List to The Matrix."

 
 thats the funniest goddamn thing ive ever read. The really sad thing, is that its all true. everybody go bookmark that site.
 
 On a sad, pathetic note... I just bought "Earth 2160" for $10, AND "Star Trek Legacy" for $40 to find out that BOTH OF THE GODDAMN GAMES ARE FILLED WITH BLACKENED BLOOD AND GOOEY PUSS. Apparently i just paid a total of $50 to be an unwitting beta tester. I was even stupid enough to buy them online digital-download-style. So no refunds or ANYTHING.
 
 Im so tired of being butt-fucked by the ESRB nonsense and all the retards responsible for building games today. Why cant we have quality anymore? Ill pay for it! Happily! Please, HERE! Ill give you an extra $5 just so the fucking things are FUNCTIONAL! But, of course, no. Anything of quality gets flushed down the toilet and we can all just go to hell apparently. Fuck it. I hate the world. I hate everything.
 
                         

 

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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] BlackRussian36 on January 29, 2007, 06:12:00 PM
                In Reply To #26
 
Biggy Slow posted:

 Im so tired of being butt-fucked by the ESRB nonsense and all the retards responsible for building games today. Why cant we have quality anymore? Ill pay for it! Happily! Please, HERE! Ill give you an extra $5 just so the fucking things are FUNCTIONAL! But, of course, no. Anything of quality gets flushed down the toilet and we can all just go to hell apparently. Fuck it. I hate the world. I hate everything.
 
 

 
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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Kyadoshi on January 29, 2007, 06:20:00 PM
                In Reply To #26
 
 And they wonder why so many "pirate" the games before they buy them.
 
 Movies at least have previews. Demos seem very lacking lately. And trailers for games simply don't count. I don't want to see gameplay footage or the special pretty cutscenes of battles.
 
 I want to *feel* how it plays without the stupid *sorry you have to buy the game before you can turn left* messages.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Tessera72751098 on January 29, 2007, 06:45:00 PM
                LOL... this thread has been officially derailed.
 
 All I'm gonna say about the human body and human sexuality is this: you do your thing and I'll do mine. I've never been a repressed individual... not when it comes to matters such as these.
 
 I also agree that our culture is pretty warped, especially when a movie that features a young woman's breast being hacked off with an axe is considered "PG-13" material, but if I caress that same breast and kiss it first, the film gets an instant "R" rating. I guess the powers-that-be want our kids to grow up thinking that mangling pretty girls is more acceptable than kissing them...
 
 Well, I'd rather kiss them. I'll also continue to keep producing nude skins for characters that I enjoy and I really don't care if some folks freak out over them. They're the sick ones, in my view. I just like girls -- so sue me. //shrug
                       

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Umnir on January 30, 2007, 03:29:00 AM
                I was thinking about the gore thing yesterday, when I was playing Flatout2. It remotely reminded me of carmageddon, wich I prefer still as the best driving game ever made. I remember the game gathered attention because you could drive over anything: men, women, old people, animals. Only thing you couldn't drive over were kids. I hope it had kids.
 
 I was about ten or less when it came out, I loved it and played it, but Im still "quite" normal. I don't even have a drivers licence... maybe it's best I don't have one. Heh.
 
 And hot coffee, anyone? How can any game have any slightest amount of sex if one HIDDEN game gets so much attention from flowerhat grannies. I have to admit that I have tried hot coffee. grin
                       

 

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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] s4nct1m0ny on January 30, 2007, 06:50:00 AM
                In Reply To #23
 I did not look at it, and I am only saying this from the basis of what others are saying they saw.
 
 But you are entitled to your opinion.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Skyra_to_Hollow on January 30, 2007, 08:08:00 AM
                In Reply To #29
 
Tessera posted:
I also agree that our culture is pretty warped, especially when a movie that features a young woman's breast being hacked off with an axe is considered "PG-13" material...

 Dude...what the fuck kind of movies are you watching?
 
 I kid, I kid.  But seriously...which film managed to pull off a PG-13 rating with a scene like that?                        

 

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Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] s4nct1m0ny on January 30, 2007, 09:33:00 AM
                Perhaps my reaction was out of order and unnecessarily sanctimonious.
 
 Anyway, in response to topic, I just upgraded my computer, and Bloodlines graphics look great. I used to think they were merely OK*, but the problem was with my computer. Also, it seems I was wrong, the combat is good, it's just that with my previous system, there seems to have been lagging during meelee combat. I have just seen the pleasure of being a homicidal Brujah maniac. *punches a guy 10 feet into the air* "Did you waste those sumbitches?" "Any that were in the way." Now THAT'S roleplaying. wink
 
 *OK as in on a technical level, because the art direction of the game is pretty good even on low settings.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] Tessera72751098 on January 30, 2007, 01:32:00 PM
                In Reply To #32
 
Skyra to Hollow posted:

 I kid, I kid.  But seriously...which film managed to pull off a PG-13 rating with a scene like that?

 
 It's hard to remember any specific examples, but one does come to mind...
 
 Some cheesebag horror movie (I forget which -- it totally sucked) was shown on commercial television around here last year. It was "edited for television," which I presume means that most of the "explicit material" was removed, so as to get it past the network censors.
 
 Well, in that film, there's a scene in which a zombie pushes a young woman up against a wall and then bites off her nipple (and the surrounding area of her breast) with his teeth. She passes out and dies on the floor, bleeding to death from her now-mangled breast.
 
 That scene was left intact, in the "edited for television" version of the film. They did, however, blur her bare breast in a previous scene, when she was taking a bath.
 
 There ya go... there's an example for us that says: butchering titties is okay for the kids to see, but nice, natural titties hanging out in the bathtub are taboo.                        

 

                                                  
Title: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
Post by: [archive] NATAN_ODASH on February 20, 2007, 04:44:00 PM
                Because I found my screenshots old folder I reply on this topic too.
 
 Look on strange legs of girl in white:
 
                         

 

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