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Offline [archive] Tessera72751098

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2007, 07:27:00 PM »
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Skyra to Hollow posted:
Now I gotta ask...whose hooha did you use as a photo reference for the texture?  Or did you draw it yourself?

 
 It was lifted from a photo and then color-matched and feather-edged into the texture. I'm an okay artist, but I don't trust myself to do as good a rendering as the real deal. So... my Malkie got the full treatment. I'm doing something similar lately with a Heather re-skin (which is turning out to be a bigger pain in the ass than I had anticipated). Heather is getting her chest re-done.
 
 I'd rather not say whose... errr... "hooha" it is. How about "a very pretty one..?" Good enough..? LOL. Oh and you wanna laugh..? A close-up shot of that particular part of the Malk re-skin is the number one most viewed pic in my entire VTMB gallery.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2007, 09:18:00 PM »
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 it was very...lifelike...i have to say.                        

 

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Offline [archive] Tessera72751098

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2007, 10:16:00 PM »
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Azrael il Toreador posted:

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 it was very...lifelike...i have to say.

 
 Thanks. I did something similar with a Brujah PC...
 
 <red>WARNING - NUDITY. DO NOT CLICK IF OFFENDED:</red>
 
 http://www.tessmage.com/images/Brujah_minor_reskin_01.jpg
 
 Hey... she's a Brujah babe. If she wants to walk around with her jeans unbuttoned, then what the hell. I'd say something to her, but I don't wanna get my eyelashes tied to my ass hairs... or whatever it is that the pissed-off Brujah chicks do to ya.
 
 I also gave her a hot pink tank top and a plum colored wool cap. The pink-ish cap in the original version made it look as if her brain was popping out of the top of her skull.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2007, 10:23:00 PM »
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Tessera posted:

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Azrael il Toreador posted:

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 it was very...lifelike...i have to say.

 
 Thanks. I did something similar with a Brujah PC...
 
 <red>WARNING - NUDITY. DO NOT CLICK IF OFFENDED:</red>
 
 http://www.tessmage.com/images/Brujah_minor_reskin_01.jpg
 
 Hey... she's a Brujah babe. If she wants to walk around with her jeans unbuttoned, then what the hell. I'd say something to her, but I don't wanna get my eyelashes tied to my ass hairs... or whatever it is that the pissed-off Brujah chicks do to ya.
 
 I also gave her a hot pink tank top and a plum colored wool cap. The pink-ish cap in the original version made it look as if her brain was popping out of the top of her skull.

 
 I like the cap and the tank top, but for some reason I'm not feeling the unbuttoned jeans on the Brujah.  It might just be the placement though--maybe the "flower power" is a tad bit high.
 
                         

 

                                                  

Offline [archive] Tessera72751098

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2007, 10:35:00 PM »
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 Could just be the camera angle -- maybe. I did my best to measure everything and set it in the right spot, but now that you mention it... I can see what you mean. I'll check it again later on and see if you're right.
 
 I'm slowly putting together a VTMB re-skin package for selected female characters, both PC's and NPC's. I'm not in any hurry with it... so it may be quite awhile before they're all finished. I tend to nitpick about such things before I finally release them. Case in point: my re-skin of a particular <orange>elf model</orange> for Oblivion. People bugged me for almost 2 months, before I finally decided they were good enough for my downloads page. I hate releasing something, only to have people tell me "this looks bad," or "that doesn't fit," or whatever.
 
 Meh... it's a hobby, I guess. I waste my time turning cute collections of pixels into sexpots. It beats collecting stamps, at least.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2007, 12:47:00 PM »
                I'll be blunt here. This is absurd. Why would you want to reskin characters in such a manner? And who, just who, would pleasure themselves by looking at 3D objects from a game?
 
 Thank goodness the moderator removed that before I could see it. Because, believe it or not, there are kids here, and I am one of them. I know that the game contains swearing and references to carnal matter, but those are minor things and baredness is a line that is never crossed by the game.
 
 Just my two cents.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2007, 01:44:00 PM »
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 But somehow gunning down people or draining them to death is much much better than nudity?
 
 wow... just ... wow.                        

 

                                                  

Offline [archive] Tessera72751098

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2007, 02:22:00 PM »
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s4nct1m0ny posted:

 I'll be blunt here. This is absurd. Why would you want to reskin characters in such a manner? And who, just who, would pleasure themselves by looking at 3D objects from a game?

 
 I dunno... so tell me this: who would "pleasure themselves" (as you've put it) by looking at nude girls in Playboy magazines..? And why is my Malk re-skin the most popular screen shot in my website's entire photo gallery..? Obviously, people enjoy it very much.
 
 Because you know what, Sport..? Those nude bits you see on my skins came straight from Playboy centerfolds. Those ARE the real things. You are looking at an actual, live woman when you see those parts. So do I enjoy looking at them..? Yer damned tootin' I do. So do YOU... you're just programmed by a screwed-up society into believing that such things are "dirty." That's absurd, in my view.
 
 Please grow up and get over it. If you don't like seeing beautiful things, then don't look at them. Make sure you stay out of any art museums, too... because most of them are filled with nude sculptures and paintings and you might have a nudity-induced heart attack.
 
 Incidentally, the strength of your reaction says far more about you than it does about people who enjoy nudity: it says that you suffer from sexual insecurity and repression, thus you seek to impose your own shame upon others who do not suffer from such shame and guilt. Please keep that in mind and allow those of us who are better-adjusted to enjoy art for art's sake -- nude art included.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2007, 04:43:00 PM »
                Ah, yes, the age-old debate.
 
 I believe it boils down to this: it's all about the repression of any expressions of sexuality.
 
 I know little of the ESRB system, but, here, any film or game that contains sex (pretty much, with some exceptions) automatically gets an Restricted-16 or Restricted-18 rating, and some films/games with no sex but appaling violence net an M15, which contains no restriction at all. (For some reason, games are more harshly judged than films, when films are often far more realistic, although the gap is narrowing now, but games still get the harsh treatment)
 
 Now, why is sex/nudity infinitely more heinous than violence? To be honest, it should be the other way around, as sex is a normal part of life. Is violence? No.
 
 I can harldy speak. I am only 17, and I play many R-18 games and watch many R-18 movies, so, I break the law. But, the fact that I am not a murdering raping monster, I think, shows just how dumb this censorship (particularly at the R-16/18 levels, where I think that the content isn't actually that bad for a 15 year old; they know it's all pretend, especially in the case of violence.)
 
 Now, finally for the issue at hand: Tessera's nude skins. It's just a little bit of virtual skin, parts of the body that are for some reason taboo (again, the society-ingrained repression of sexual expression), and if you are offended, that justifies the system, sadly, as it shows a lack of maturity,and makes my previous points moot.
 
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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2007, 05:09:00 PM »
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 /agree
 
 From
 A Gamers Manifesto by David Wong and Haimoimoi
 http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/games/manifesto.html
 
 "4. Nipples?
 
 Speaking of adult games, where are they? Politicians bemoan the bloodthirsty horror of video games, but really the standards are almost Victorian when compared to R-rated Hollywood fare such as Sin City and Kill Bill and Cinemax's Voyeur Safari IV: Dildo Island. You get a little harsh language and some comic-booky sprays of gore, but that's about it. There is an "AO" (Adults Only) ESRB rating for games, but when is the last time you saw it?
 
 We're not for speeding the moral degradation of the modern world, but imagine a Hollywood where only PG-13 movies could get made. Say goodbye to everything from Shindler's List to The Matrix."                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2007, 06:06:00 PM »
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Kyadoshi posted:

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 /agree
 
 From
 A Gamers Manifesto by David Wong and Haimoimoi
 http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/games/manifesto.html
 
 "4. Nipples?
 
 Speaking of adult games, where are they? Politicians bemoan the bloodthirsty horror of video games, but really the standards are almost Victorian when compared to R-rated Hollywood fare such as Sin City and Kill Bill and Cinemax's Voyeur Safari IV: Dildo Island. You get a little harsh language and some comic-booky sprays of gore, but that's about it. There is an "AO" (Adults Only) ESRB rating for games, but when is the last time you saw it?
 
 We're not for speeding the moral degradation of the modern world, but imagine a Hollywood where only PG-13 movies could get made. Say goodbye to everything from Shindler's List to The Matrix."

 
 thats the funniest goddamn thing ive ever read. The really sad thing, is that its all true. everybody go bookmark that site.
 
 On a sad, pathetic note... I just bought "Earth 2160" for $10, AND "Star Trek Legacy" for $40 to find out that BOTH OF THE GODDAMN GAMES ARE FILLED WITH BLACKENED BLOOD AND GOOEY PUSS. Apparently i just paid a total of $50 to be an unwitting beta tester. I was even stupid enough to buy them online digital-download-style. So no refunds or ANYTHING.
 
 Im so tired of being butt-fucked by the ESRB nonsense and all the retards responsible for building games today. Why cant we have quality anymore? Ill pay for it! Happily! Please, HERE! Ill give you an extra $5 just so the fucking things are FUNCTIONAL! But, of course, no. Anything of quality gets flushed down the toilet and we can all just go to hell apparently. Fuck it. I hate the world. I hate everything.
 
                         

 

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2007, 06:12:00 PM »
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Biggy Slow posted:

 Im so tired of being butt-fucked by the ESRB nonsense and all the retards responsible for building games today. Why cant we have quality anymore? Ill pay for it! Happily! Please, HERE! Ill give you an extra $5 just so the fucking things are FUNCTIONAL! But, of course, no. Anything of quality gets flushed down the toilet and we can all just go to hell apparently. Fuck it. I hate the world. I hate everything.
 
 

 
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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2007, 06:20:00 PM »
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 And they wonder why so many "pirate" the games before they buy them.
 
 Movies at least have previews. Demos seem very lacking lately. And trailers for games simply don't count. I don't want to see gameplay footage or the special pretty cutscenes of battles.
 
 I want to *feel* how it plays without the stupid *sorry you have to buy the game before you can turn left* messages.                        

 

                                                  

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2007, 06:45:00 PM »
                LOL... this thread has been officially derailed.
 
 All I'm gonna say about the human body and human sexuality is this: you do your thing and I'll do mine. I've never been a repressed individual... not when it comes to matters such as these.
 
 I also agree that our culture is pretty warped, especially when a movie that features a young woman's breast being hacked off with an axe is considered "PG-13" material, but if I caress that same breast and kiss it first, the film gets an instant "R" rating. I guess the powers-that-be want our kids to grow up thinking that mangling pretty girls is more acceptable than kissing them...
 
 Well, I'd rather kiss them. I'll also continue to keep producing nude skins for characters that I enjoy and I really don't care if some folks freak out over them. They're the sick ones, in my view. I just like girls -- so sue me. //shrug
                       

 

                                                  

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Re: Bloodlines graphics at their best and worst
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2007, 03:29:00 AM »
                I was thinking about the gore thing yesterday, when I was playing Flatout2. It remotely reminded me of carmageddon, wich I prefer still as the best driving game ever made. I remember the game gathered attention because you could drive over anything: men, women, old people, animals. Only thing you couldn't drive over were kids. I hope it had kids.
 
 I was about ten or less when it came out, I loved it and played it, but Im still "quite" normal. I don't even have a drivers licence... maybe it's best I don't have one. Heh.
 
 And hot coffee, anyone? How can any game have any slightest amount of sex if one HIDDEN game gets so much attention from flowerhat grannies. I have to admit that I have tried hot coffee. grin
                       

 

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