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Offline Talyn82

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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2019, 07:42:34 AM »
For my Anarch aligned Toreador I focused on Auspex, and Presence.  I originally was gonna invest in Celerity, but then I remembered with Auspex I can see enemies through objects, and that is essential when doing stealth missions.  Especially since unlike my Tremere character, my Toreador can't put incoming enemies under a trance and sneak by.  Next time I play a Camarilla aligned Toreador I'll try Celerity.

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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2019, 08:53:10 AM »
Now I remember there's a scene where LaCroix is speaking to other vamps and he says they are vampire Primogen.  Gary was one of them.

I added this in the plus patch as well as him being there at the execution of your sire. I couldn't stand all the clones being visible before...

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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2019, 10:29:38 AM »
Oh I did not see him, because at the start of this playthrough I was using an enb, and it made the game very dark.  For example:  The only reason I saw Jack was cause his cigar lit up.  But I've removed the enb since then so now I see everything.  But yeah it made no sense.  If Gary is an important member of the Camarilla why wasn't he at the trial?  Once again thanks for your hard work!:)

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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2019, 10:48:40 AM »
I prefer a simple SFX effect (the one called Atmospheric), a couple of tweaks and its perfect
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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2019, 11:14:47 AM »
The thing is I'm not great at tweaking those kinds of things.  I mean I understand the visuals and graphic settings in game option menus.  But how to finely tune graphical settings in enb's or SWEETFX's, I do not know how.

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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2019, 02:49:09 PM »
Neither I, I just find out the Devolved Mod (a ENB/SweetFX combo) uses a modified version of my favourite SweetFX setting even making it better LOL
I've included it my own quick-to-install pack if anyone wants :vampwink:
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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2019, 07:57:04 PM »
Oh I did not see him, because at the start of this playthrough I was using an enb, and it made the game very dark.  For example:  The only reason I saw Jack was cause his cigar lit up.  But I've removed the enb since then so now I see everything.  But yeah it made no sense.  If Gary is an important member of the Camarilla why wasn't he at the trial?  Once again thanks for your hard work!:)

Gary is really good at Obfuscate, so he might still be there in the vanilla game, but preferred to stay hidden - maybe in the hope, to find out something about one of the other vampires. That would totally be in character for him (and that was my headcanon before wesps plus patch came along).

As for the killer: I think, you need persuasion 7 for the option to convince him to stop killing and let him live, but I'm not sure. I always focus on persuasion as my social skill and have it at around eight by then.

Another character I find fascinating, if evil, is Andrei the Tzimisce. Love his voice and his looks.
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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #52 on: December 18, 2019, 08:36:23 PM »
Gary is really good at Obfuscate, so he might still be there in the vanilla game, but preferred to stay hidden - maybe in the hope, to find out something about one of the other vampires. That would totally be in character for him (and that was my headcanon before wesps plus patch came along).

I don't think this makes sense. Auspex can see Obfuscated vampires and with such an important meeting someone, like the Sheriff or anyone else having Auspex, would have certainly checked the parameter and found Gary. Who should know about that which would make his behaviour rather inpolite :)!

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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2019, 01:42:42 AM »
Oh I did not see him, because at the start of this playthrough I was using an enb, and it made the game very dark.  For example:  The only reason I saw Jack was cause his cigar lit up.  But I've removed the enb since then so now I see everything.  But yeah it made no sense.  If Gary is an important member of the Camarilla why wasn't he at the trial?  Once again thanks for your hard work!:)

Gary is really good at Obfuscate, so he might still be there in the vanilla game, but preferred to stay hidden - maybe in the hope, to find out something about one of the other vampires. That would totally be in character for him (and that was my headcanon before wesps plus patch came along).

As for the killer: I think, you need persuasion 7 for the option to convince him to stop killing and let him live, but I'm not sure. I always focus on persuasion as my social skill and have it at around eight by then.

Another character I find fascinating, if evil, is Andrei the Tzimisce. Love his voice and his looks.

Yeah I thought he might have been using obfuscate, but like Wesp5 said, characters like the Sheriff would have probably detected him.

As for the serial killer.  At the time my persuasion was at 6, I did try to see if I could convince him otherwise, but my persuasion was too low.  Now it is at level 8 thanks to the reward from Isaac and Wesp5 for restoring it.  I was able to convince the two Chinese hitmen to reconcile their differences and got 6 experience points.  In my first playthrough I could not get them to reconcile, but I did walk away with 80% of their reward money.  But between cash and experience points I choose the latter.

I did not know that Tzimisce had a name.  But I do like him and want to know more about his clan.  I also want to know more of the Sabbat in general.
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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2019, 02:45:42 AM »
I was able to convince the two Chinese hitmen to reconcile their differences and got 6 experience points.  In my first playthrough I could not get them to reconcile, but I did walk away with 80% of their reward money.

Haaaaa that quest is amazing. Great great fun with that one.

I did not know that Tzimisce had a name.  But I do like him and want to know more about his clan.  I also want to know more of the Sabbat in general.

I'm not the biggest modder around but if you enjoy using mods then there's one out there that actually allows you to join the Sabbat and have a whole questline with the sect. Someone more knowledgeable in that area will know the name of that mod.

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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2019, 03:44:48 AM »
Gary is really good at Obfuscate, so he might still be there in the vanilla game, but preferred to stay hidden - maybe in the hope, to find out something about one of the other vampires. That would totally be in character for him (and that was my headcanon before wesps plus patch came along).

I don't think this makes sense. Auspex can see Obfuscated vampires and with such an important meeting someone, like the Sheriff or anyone else having Auspex, would have certainly checked the parameter and found Gary. Who should know about that which would make his behaviour rather inpolite :)!

In one of the novels I read, in New York City, the nossie primogen was nowhere to be found in a meeting but was there, obscurated in an air vent or something listening in. 

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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2019, 04:58:38 AM »
I was able to convince the two Chinese hitmen to reconcile their differences and got 6 experience points.  In my first playthrough I could not get them to reconcile, but I did walk away with 80% of their reward money.

Haaaaa that quest is amazing. Great great fun with that one.

I did not know that Tzimisce had a name.  But I do like him and want to know more about his clan.  I also want to know more of the Sabbat in general.

I'm not the biggest modder around but if you enjoy using mods then there's one out there that actually allows you to join the Sabbat and have a whole questline with the sect. Someone more knowledgeable in that area will know the name of that mod.

Yeah, I've been enjoying my Toreador playthrough.  In rpg's I like to persuade npc's out of combat.  Right now I am doing Gary's poster quests even though I gain no experience.  I also have to talk to Zhao.  OH!  I fought that demon with Yuki and she died during the fight.  In my first playthrough she never died despite getting massacred.  But in my current playthrough I just reloaded and now she's safe and sound. 

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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #57 on: December 19, 2019, 08:25:28 PM »
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I did not know that Tzimisce had a name.  But I do like him and want to know more about his clan.  I also want to know more of the Sabbat in general.

I'm not the biggest modder around but if you enjoy using mods then there's one out there that actually allows you to join the Sabbat and have a whole questline with the sect. Someone more knowledgeable in that area will know the name of that mod.

It's the Clan Quest Mod, which I highly recommend. You can join Andrei and have a whole new game experience with new characters and areas. And they even found a really great voice actor for Andrei, who sound a lot like the original one.
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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #58 on: December 19, 2019, 08:28:53 PM »
I did not know that Tzimisce had a name.  But I do like him and want to know more about his clan.  I also want to know more of the Sabbat in general.

We have a Sabbat pen & paper group and it is a lot of fun. I'm playing a Tzimisce there, a very formal and old fashioned gentleman, who is very social, but if you cross him, you end up as wall decoration (he was in torpor for a whole century because of an enemy, so he is not very patient atm).
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Re: Am new here and just beat VTMB for the first time. (Spoilers)
« Reply #59 on: December 20, 2019, 02:24:01 AM »
I did not know that Tzimisce had a name.  But I do like him and want to know more about his clan.  I also want to know more of the Sabbat in general.

We have a Sabbat pen & paper group and it is a lot of fun. I'm playing a Tzimisce there, a very formal and old fashioned gentleman, who is very social, but if you cross him, you end up as wall decoration (he was in torpor for a whole century because of an enemy, so he is not very patient atm).

That sounds like a lot of fun.  I like how your character backstory and demeanor.

 

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