Author Topic: Vampire: The Masquerade – Coteries of New York / Third Vampire Game!!!  (Read 1872 times)

Offline DarkZephyr

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One is being released in 2019 and the other in 2020.
Well this one release is presumedly the end of 2019 (A November release would be self-destructive. So more September, October or December)
and Bloodlines 2 launch is hopefully in March of 2020.

In my opinion this could not be enough timespace for two Vampire games. The best scenario is if
this game would be good or ok enough that it couldn´t hurt Bloodlines 2.
If it sucks well this could damage Paradox line of World of Darkness Games for the average consumer / gamer.

Who decides these arbitrary rules?  "There can't be TWO Vampire games at the same time!!  GASP!!"  Why not?  How many sports games are there at a time?  Racing games?  First person shooters?  Oblivion and Neverwinter Nights 2 were released fairly close together.  One didn't destroy the other.

To be fair, too much of anything at once can sometimes cause supply/demand issues. Another big video game came out the same day as Bloodlines 1, and it would be naïve to say that it didn't influence what game people bought on launch day. Sure, *I* am a superior being and bought Bloodlines 1 with a pre-order and got the "slut shirt" as my friend calls it (Jeanette is on it), but the majority of gamers, when faced with which to buy first, would go with Half-Life 2 over Bloodlines 1.

Just imagine if Bloodlines 2 launched the same day as Half-Life 3. XD

Well if the two games were being released on the exact same day, of course that would cause problems.  But they are several months apart.  Despite DA2 disappointing several people AFTER they bought it, nobody decided to give it a pass because Skyrim was already out for 4 months.

Well, I did, but then I still haven't finished Skyrim. I think I got DA2 for like 20 bucks, tops. I was pretty wary of it. And then I paid like $40 or some shit for DA:I. I don't know what the hell I was thinking. And I got ME:A at launch. I'm like a closet masochist. I'm done with those, though. No more fooling me.

Feelings about BioWare aside, when it comes to sales figures, one HIGHLY successful Fantasy RPG with elves, dragons and magic didn't mess up the financial success of another Fantasy RPG with elves, dragon and magic released merely 4 months later. That is my point.  I'm a gamer nerd who loves video games.  If they're GOOD games, I want more, not less.  I don't think the timing will be the real issue though I concede it will play a role if the Coterie game is crap.  In other words, I think the main thing will be whether or not the one released first is a good game or not.  Lets hope its good, though it being bad won't stop me from getting Bloodlines 2 but it could and probably would stop many others.  If this game proves to be crap, I can see Paradox delaying Bloodlines 2's release by several months or more and that's where timing being an issue will certainly come into play. 

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One is being released in 2019 and the other in 2020.
Well this one release is presumedly the end of 2019 (A November release would be self-destructive. So more September, October or December)
and Bloodlines 2 launch is hopefully in March of 2020.

In my opinion this could not be enough timespace for two Vampire games. The best scenario is if
this game would be good or ok enough that it couldn´t hurt Bloodlines 2.
If it sucks well this could damage Paradox line of World of Darkness Games for the average consumer / gamer.

Who decides these arbitrary rules?  "There can't be TWO Vampire games at the same time!!  GASP!!"  Why not?  How many sports games are there at a time?  Racing games?  First person shooters?  Oblivion and Neverwinter Nights 2 were released fairly close together.  One didn't destroy the other.

To be fair, too much of anything at once can sometimes cause supply/demand issues. Another big video game came out the same day as Bloodlines 1, and it would be naïve to say that it didn't influence what game people bought on launch day. Sure, *I* am a superior being and bought Bloodlines 1 with a pre-order and got the "slut shirt" as my friend calls it (Jeanette is on it), but the majority of gamers, when faced with which to buy first, would go with Half-Life 2 over Bloodlines 1.

Just imagine if Bloodlines 2 launched the same day as Half-Life 3. XD

Well if the two games were being released on the exact same day, of course that would cause problems.  But they are several months apart.  Despite DA2 disappointing several people AFTER they bought it, nobody decided to give it a pass because Skyrim was already out for 4 months.

Well, I did, but then I still haven't finished Skyrim. I think I got DA2 for like 20 bucks, tops. I was pretty wary of it. And then I paid like $40 or some shit for DA:I. I don't know what the hell I was thinking. And I got ME:A at launch. I'm like a closet masochist. I'm done with those, though. No more fooling me.

Feelings about BioWare aside, when it comes to sales figures, one HIGHLY successful Fantasy RPG with elves, dragons and magic didn't mess up the financial success of another Fantasy RPG with elves, dragon and magic released merely 4 months later. That is my point.  I'm a gamer nerd who loves video games.  If they're GOOD games, I want more, not less.  I don't think the timing will be the real issue though I concede it will play a role if the Coterie game is crap.  In other words, I think the main thing will be whether or not the one released first is a good game or not.  Lets hope its good, though it being bad won't stop me from getting Bloodlines 2 but it could and probably would stop many others.  If this game proves to be crap, I can see Paradox delaying Bloodlines 2's release by several months or more and that's where timing being an issue will certainly come into play.

If the 2019 VtM game is a stinky turd, it had best not sully Bloodlines 2's sales figures. Bloodlines 2 is my favorite game, so a lot is riding on Bloodlines 2 for me. I would love a new game that makes me swoon like the original

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One is being released in 2019 and the other in 2020.
Well this one release is presumedly the end of 2019 (A November release would be self-destructive. So more September, October or December)
and Bloodlines 2 launch is hopefully in March of 2020.

In my opinion this could not be enough timespace for two Vampire games. The best scenario is if
this game would be good or ok enough that it couldn´t hurt Bloodlines 2.
If it sucks well this could damage Paradox line of World of Darkness Games for the average consumer / gamer.

Who decides these arbitrary rules?  "There can't be TWO Vampire games at the same time!!  GASP!!"  Why not?  How many sports games are there at a time?  Racing games?  First person shooters?  Oblivion and Neverwinter Nights 2 were released fairly close together.  One didn't destroy the other.

To be fair, too much of anything at once can sometimes cause supply/demand issues. Another big video game came out the same day as Bloodlines 1, and it would be naïve to say that it didn't influence what game people bought on launch day. Sure, *I* am a superior being and bought Bloodlines 1 with a pre-order and got the "slut shirt" as my friend calls it (Jeanette is on it), but the majority of gamers, when faced with which to buy first, would go with Half-Life 2 over Bloodlines 1.

Just imagine if Bloodlines 2 launched the same day as Half-Life 3. XD

Well if the two games were being released on the exact same day, of course that would cause problems.  But they are several months apart.  Despite DA2 disappointing several people AFTER they bought it, nobody decided to give it a pass because Skyrim was already out for 4 months.

Well, I did, but then I still haven't finished Skyrim. I think I got DA2 for like 20 bucks, tops. I was pretty wary of it. And then I paid like $40 or some shit for DA:I. I don't know what the hell I was thinking. And I got ME:A at launch. I'm like a closet masochist. I'm done with those, though. No more fooling me.

Feelings about BioWare aside, when it comes to sales figures, one HIGHLY successful Fantasy RPG with elves, dragons and magic didn't mess up the financial success of another Fantasy RPG with elves, dragon and magic released merely 4 months later. That is my point.  I'm a gamer nerd who loves video games.  If they're GOOD games, I want more, not less.  I don't think the timing will be the real issue though I concede it will play a role if the Coterie game is crap.  In other words, I think the main thing will be whether or not the one released first is a good game or not.  Lets hope its good, though it being bad won't stop me from getting Bloodlines 2 but it could and probably would stop many others.  If this game proves to be crap, I can see Paradox delaying Bloodlines 2's release by several months or more and that's where timing being an issue will certainly come into play.

If the 2019 VtM game is a stinky turd, it had best not sully Bloodlines 2's sales figures. Bloodlines 2 is my favorite game, so a lot is riding on Bloodlines 2 for me. I would love a new game that makes me swoon like the original

For now, I don't think we should fret. There's no reason to think Draw Distance will do a terrible job.  Their early access game "Ritual: Crown of Horns" hasn't been available to play for very long but it seems like those who do play it overall seem to enjoy it, so far with only one negative review as of yet.  Really all we can do is wait and see.  If Coteries of New York is good, this will be an excellent thing.   

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Did they officially state the game's genre? I always think about point & click adventure or visual novels when narrative experience is the main descriptor, but it also talks about quests, so I am not quite sure, maybe it's an adventure/RPG hybrid (kind of like gamebooks, if the narrative part is more prevalent)?

It's all potentially interesting, but it seems pointless to speculate for now, since it's a completely new game.

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Did they officially state the game's genre? I always think about point & click adventure or visual novels when narrative experience is the main descriptor, but it also talks about quests, so I am not quite sure, maybe it's an adventure/RPG hybrid (kind of like gamebooks, if the narrative part is more prevalent)?

It's all potentially interesting, but it seems pointless to speculate for now, since it's a completely new game.

They describe it as being similar to a Telltale game title, so I am thinking in my head that it will be one of those narrative games that has a bit of an animated comic book feel like "Wolf Among Us" or "The Walking Dead". 


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They describe it as being similar to a Telltale game title, so I am thinking in my head that it will be one of those narrative games that has a bit of an animated comic book feel like "Wolf Among Us" or "The Walking Dead". 

A Telltale game with a bit more gameplay (that isn't QTEs) and more choices and consequences would be cool. I was kind of disappointed by how little the choices mattered in TWD season 1, so it kind of put me off buying any of their other games (in the same style).

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They describe it as being similar to a Telltale game title, so I am thinking in my head that it will be one of those narrative games that has a bit of an animated comic book feel like "Wolf Among Us" or "The Walking Dead". 

A Telltale game with a bit more gameplay (that isn't QTEs) and more choices and consequences would be cool. I was kind of disappointed by how little the choices mattered in TWD season 1, so it kind of put me off buying any of their other games (in the same style).

It sounds like they want to keep adding to the game if its successful, so it may be a bit more elaborate than a basic Telltale game. 

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Did they officially state the game's genre? I always think about point & click adventure or visual novels when narrative experience is the main descriptor, but it also talks about quests, so I am not quite sure, maybe it's an adventure/RPG hybrid (kind of like gamebooks, if the narrative part is more prevalent)?

It's all potentially interesting, but it seems pointless to speculate for now, since it's a completely new game.

They describe it as being similar to a Telltale game title, so I am thinking in my head that it will be one of those narrative games that has a bit of an animated comic book feel like "Wolf Among Us" or "The Walking Dead". 




They have my curiosity, but not my attention quite yet. I didn't like The Wolf Among Us, and Telltale I guess shifted focus in the third season to some other family with Clem as more of a side character, I guess? I prefer Clementine over Bob Ross Jr. in the backseat there. =/  I stopped after Season 2 was done and never touched it again.

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They have my curiosity, but not my attention quite yet. I didn't like The Wolf Among Us, and Telltale I guess shifted focus in the third season to some other family with Clem as more of a side character, I guess? I prefer Clementine over Bob Ross Jr. in the backseat there. =/  I stopped after Season 2 was done and never touched it again.

Give it a chance, Season 3 was pretty great and things did seem to get back on track in Season 4.

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I don't even have a Nintendo... T______T

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There is already a thread for that game here
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I don't even have a Nintendo... T______T

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There is already a thread for that game here
Exactly we don´t two threads for this game so can the mods please close this thread? Thanks. :)

So i am a bit perplex who anyone could overlook the existing thread.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2019, 09:03:08 AM by Wilhelm Streicher 19 »

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Like that 2nd thread on character speculation. For an admin it's possible to merge topics?
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