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Offline Barabbah

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US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« on: June 01, 2020, 07:48:39 PM »
First of all, I hadn't followed much this section of the forum or any news regarding Bloodlines 2 for several reasons (like to avoid spoilers)....


But now seeing how things are going in dumbf**kinstan the United States I am now curious to know your opinion on this thought I just had: how much will the United States change and how it will reflect on Vampire Bloodlines 2? There will be a USA left, it will separate in different "states", cities will even get back to normality?


While I hope any of you living there (or with family and friends there) is all right, what do you think of this mess? They will make last minute changes to reflect the evolution of Seattle, set the game a few months before all of this started, don't give a damn, what?
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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2020, 08:20:11 PM »
I've been hearing about this issue recently, much more so whenever I watch TJ Kirk's videos (The Amazing Atheist) because he gets a lot of viewers who feel completely alienated with politics. I even remember someone commenting how "The United States will probably go the way of the USSR and dissolve into independent states".

I myself don't want to jump to conclusions... but things look really bad right now. Forbes was already saying that the unemployment rate is even higher than the Great Depression: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/05/19/3-reasons-unemployment-is-already-at-great-depression-levels/#6c3eae22413f

Despite this, many people
are still going to vote for Trump. So I can deffinitely understand people who feel completely dissafected with the government and the ruling class.

Now, how would this affect Bloodlines 2 ?

I would most certainly hope that Mitsoda & crew have not only the willingness but also the tact in carefully dealing with this situation. Trump is, without question, a piece of shit; it doesn't do us any favors however, when people say they're going to make a product (movie, series, videogame, book) that is going to be very hard on a political figure and they just end up doing nothing relevant or important; this was an issue with the latest Star Trek series (Picard), a show that gloated about how it was going to criticize Trump and his administration... and merely did a couple of bits on romulan immigrants.

Thus, IF the developers decide to touch upon something as incredibly important as the political tensions in the US, then they better do a damn good job about it.
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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2020, 09:23:29 PM »
Now, how would this affect Bloodlines 2 ?
I would say the writing and voice recording for the Bloodlines 2 main game is finished. So no mentions of Covid19 or the current riots.
For the DLCs maybe but you guys really think this would be a good idea? Vampire Bloodlines was politically game to some extent but first it was a crazy Fantasy Vampire game in an alternative world.  Also it's a fun entertainment product.
Also breaking News: Sony postpones his Playstation 5 Event and very likely the Guerilla Games event where Bloodlines 2 is rumored to show up. Because of Sony all other game events must be postponed as well if they don´t want to risk their reputation. At least this and next week no E3-like Online Events.
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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2020, 09:59:23 PM »
I would say the writing and voice recording for the Bloodlines 2 main game is finished. So no mentions of Covid19 or the current riots. For the DLCs maybe but you guys really think this would be a good idea? Vampire Bloodlines was politically game to some extent butfirst it was a crazy Fantasy Vampire game in an alternative world.  Also its a fun entertainment product.


It's perfectly by me if they decide not to touch on the political stuff.


BUT IF THEY DID... then I wouldn't like it if they just did it to score brownie points with their audience. These issues are too important to be trivialized.

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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2020, 02:29:58 AM »
It won't change at all.  These things happen every couple of years.  Hopefully this time the municipal police will be held accountable BUT - they're unionized so most likely will get their wrists slapped in the end (and so it will continue and happen again).  Really, COVID19 will have more impact on game completion date then rioting.   

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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2020, 03:15:14 AM »
It won't change at all.  These things happen every couple of years.  Hopefully this time the municipal police will be held accountable BUT - they're unionized so most likely will get their wrists slapped in the end (and so it will continue and happen again).  Really, COVID19 will have more impact on game completion date then rioting.


Despite the harsh reality I really hope it doesn't end like that. Three murders ago it was already too much.

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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2020, 03:56:40 AM »
I live in the US and this is nothing new.  Many people are frustrated with the quarantine and the high unemployment rate.  Add to this the the injustice that was done by yet again the Police.  It's no wonder why rioters are burning cities to the ground.  I live in NY and luckily the riot has not come to my neighborhood.  Years ago another African American was killed by Police for selling a cigarette in front of a convenience store.  There were no riots then.  When I was a kid back in the early nineties LA rioted when the cops who beat an African American to the point of near death were Acquitted, LA was almost burnt to the ground.  I was only 11 at the time but I remember the news.


With all that said I do not approve of these rioters even though I am Hispanic myself, and cops are known for beating Latinos as well.  I am not rich nor am I poor but these rioters are attacking the poor neighborhoods.  They are attacking innocent men and women who are just defending their businesses.  Plus it doesn't help that political factions and celebrities are paying for the rioters who are arrested bail.


As for the game while I do not like politics and do not like when developers and publishers push their political agenda in their games.  I must remind myself I love Bloodlines and that game was political.  Brian Mitsoda was clearly anti-Bush and anti-Republican.  I don't care about that and found it funny when Venus wants you to confess your sins and you could reply, "I once voted Republican."  So okay if he wants to add this chaos to his game which already sounds chaotic what with the mass embrace.  Then so be it.



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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2020, 08:35:06 PM »
I would say the writing and voice recording for the Bloodlines 2 main game is finished. So no mentions of Covid19 or the current riots.
For the DLCs maybe but you guys really think this would be a good idea? Vampire Bloodlines was politically game to some extent but first it was a crazy Fantasy Vampire game in an alternative world.  Also it's a fun entertainment product.


That makes sense
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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2020, 08:37:14 PM »
Brian Mitsoda was clearly anti-Bush and anti-Republican.  I don't care about that and found it funny when Venus wants you to confess your sins and you could reply, "I once voted Republican."  So okay if he wants to add this chaos to his game which already sounds chaotic what with the mass embrace.  Then so be it.


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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2020, 11:43:14 PM »
@Barabbah:  That emote kinda looks like Fat Larry lol.
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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2020, 01:26:35 AM »
@Barabbah:  That emote kinda looks like Fat Larry lol.
 

That's what I thought too!  :)

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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2020, 08:07:58 AM »
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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2020, 08:13:04 AM »
By the way, looking for a picture of Fat Larry I found out a band called Fat Larry's Band:


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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2020, 03:51:50 AM »
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I would say the writing and voice recording for the Bloodlines 2 main game is finished. So no mentions of Covid19 or the current riots.
For the DLCs maybe but you guys really think this would be a good idea? Vampire Bloodlines was politically game to some extent but first it was a crazy Fantasy Vampire game in an alternative world.  Also it's a fun entertainment product.


That makes sense
Besides, it was already done with the CDC in LA.  :)
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Re: US new civil war and Bloodlines 2: how things will change
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2020, 04:05:32 AM »
I was thinking that, depending on how the DLC is being written and at what stage they're in... we might get all of this chaos referenced.

 

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