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Offline DarkZephyr

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2019, 04:33:04 AM »
...which would really suck ass.

Agreed, especially since I have always sucked at keeping my retail game copies anyway.  Its been years since I have busted out a retail copy of a game and installed it directly from disk.  Most of my retail game copies, PC Games AND console games (as well as the consoles themselves) and several TV show seasons on DVD were stolen from me by a certain person who is no longer in my life so they could pawn them for money.  I solely rely on digital copies nowadays with the exception of a small handful of those games I made personal backups of as ISO rips.

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2019, 04:52:33 AM »
...which would really suck ass.

Agreed, especially since I have always sucked at keeping my retail game copies anyway.  Its been years since I have busted out a retail copy of a game and installed it directly from disk.  Most of my retail game copies, PC Games AND console games (as well as the consoles themselves) and several TV show seasons on DVD were stolen from me by a certain person who is no longer in my life so they could pawn them for money.  I solely rely on digital copies nowadays with the exception of a small handful of those games I made personal backups of as ISO rips.

I have none of mine backed up. Bloodlines is the only physical copy of a game that I have that I care about. Well, that and KotOR, I suppose.

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2019, 06:11:58 AM »
...which would really suck ass.

Agreed, especially since I have always sucked at keeping my retail game copies anyway.  Its been years since I have busted out a retail copy of a game and installed it directly from disk.  Most of my retail game copies, PC Games AND console games (as well as the consoles themselves) and several TV show seasons on DVD were stolen from me by a certain person who is no longer in my life so they could pawn them for money.  I solely rely on digital copies nowadays with the exception of a small handful of those games I made personal backups of as ISO rips.

I have none of mine backed up. Bloodlines is the only physical copy of a game that I have that I care about. Well, that and KotOR, I suppose.

I wish I still had my physical copy of bloodlines with no patches added whatsoever.  I suppose eventually I can get a copy for a somewhat reasonable price from Ebay but its hard for me to totally justify it right now with having it both on Steam and GOG.com. 

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2019, 08:13:01 AM »
Heh, yes, that's the one. I'm an ammo miser, though, and my health was already middling, so I just let the Licker slash me and I bolted out of the room and used a spray to heal to full once I was out in the library. Based on the map, I will NEVER have to return to that room, so I think I came out ahead. I'm stockpiling shotty ammo like crazy (haven't fired a shot yet).

I don't remember the original music, so I can't be disappointed! :D  That said, any RE safe room music puts a smile on my face, both for gameplay reasons and musical appreciation.

Yeah, that's one of those areas you don't really HAVE to visit again. You might find that in a few rare circumstances you would have preferred to have that area cleared, but in general that's not the case.

Oh, it's not about nostalgia, I mean that with the old music you get more music overall and that it's of better quality in my opinion. Games nowadays have this weird notion that a minimalistic score is more "immersive" or something along those lines, so they have more subdued tracks, and there are even long bouts of silence, I find. I think music greatly improves the atmosphere, instead, just like in movies. Well, it's not a huge deal, just something I noticed when comparing the two soundtracks available.

I'd recommend anyone with a GOG account to backup at least their most beloved games. You don't want to be taken by surprise, and it's within your legal rights to do so. While it's reasonable to expect them to warn you beforehand, business can be unpredictable. I have recently made copies on blue-ray for a good chunk of the best games I own, even if I still have old physical copies for some of them (like Arcanum and Bloodlines, to name two Troika Games). Admittedly, them being blu-rays makes it easier to burn them, as I don't need a huge number of those to archive most of my stuff (with a few exceptions, a lot of those games are old and don't take as much space as new ones).

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2019, 01:21:50 PM »
Heh, yes, that's the one. I'm an ammo miser, though, and my health was already middling, so I just let the Licker slash me and I bolted out of the room and used a spray to heal to full once I was out in the library. Based on the map, I will NEVER have to return to that room, so I think I came out ahead. I'm stockpiling shotty ammo like crazy (haven't fired a shot yet).

I don't remember the original music, so I can't be disappointed! :D  That said, any RE safe room music puts a smile on my face, both for gameplay reasons and musical appreciation.

Yeah, that's one of those areas you don't really HAVE to visit again. You might find that in a few rare circumstances you would have preferred to have that area cleared, but in general that's not the case.

Oh, it's not about nostalgia, I mean that with the old music you get more music overall and that it's of better quality in my opinion. Games nowadays have this weird notion that a minimalistic score is more "immersive" or something along those lines, so they have more subdued tracks, and there are even long bouts of silence, I find. I think music greatly improves the atmosphere, instead, just like in movies. Well, it's not a huge deal, just something I noticed when comparing the two soundtracks available.

I'd recommend anyone with a GOG account to backup at least their most beloved games. You don't want to be taken by surprise, and it's within your legal rights to do so. While it's reasonable to expect them to warn you beforehand, business can be unpredictable. I have recently made copies on blue-ray for a good chunk of the best games I own, even if I still have old physical copies for some of them (like Arcanum and Bloodlines, to name two Troika Games). Admittedly, them being blu-rays makes it easier to burn them, as I don't need a huge number of those to archive most of my stuff (with a few exceptions, a lot of those games are old and don't take as much space as new ones).

I just finished the section in which I briefly controlled the world's worst spy (straight up tells people her real name...oh wait, I guess James Bond is a dumbass, too). I'm in the sewers and fought a really weak boss that I remember from the original RE2. He was much, MUCH less of a pain this time around. :D

I really ought to back up some games, but I'm SO lazy. D':

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2019, 03:14:40 PM »
I wish I still had my physical copy of bloodlines with no patches added whatsoever.  I suppose eventually I can get a copy for a somewhat reasonable price from Ebay but its hard for me to totally justify it right now with having it both on Steam and GOG.com.

You've been embraced twice then. Guess one can't have enough Bloodlines in their life.

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2019, 03:36:47 PM »
I wish I still had my physical copy of bloodlines with no patches added whatsoever.  I suppose eventually I can get a copy for a somewhat reasonable price from Ebay but its hard for me to totally justify it right now with having it both on Steam and GOG.com.

You've been embraced twice then. Guess one can't have enough Bloodlines in their life.

I would imagine most folks who fell in love with the game at launch have both a physical and digital copy. Having to deal with discs is annoying. I'm just glad 3.5 inch disks are no longer all the rage. Software toolworks Star Wars battle chess was on 14 3.5 inch disks. >_<

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2019, 04:03:42 PM »
Regarding the physical copy versus download. If you take into consideration that Physical Media will eventually fail. You'd have to buy another copy of it anyway ;)
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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2019, 04:06:40 PM »
I would imagine most folks who fell in love with the game at launch have both a physical and digital copy. Having to deal with discs is annoying. I'm just glad 3.5 inch disks are no longer all the rage. Software toolworks Star Wars battle chess was on 14 3.5 inch disks. >_<

How big is the first Bloodlines ?

I might buy one of those TB USB's and just install it there. Play it on any computer!
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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2019, 04:43:53 PM »
I would imagine most folks who fell in love with the game at launch have both a physical and digital copy. Having to deal with discs is annoying. I'm just glad 3.5 inch disks are no longer all the rage. Software toolworks Star Wars battle chess was on 14 3.5 inch disks. >_<

How big is the first Bloodlines ?

I might buy one of those TB USB's and just install it there. Play it on any computer !

It's taking up 4.96 GB on my hard drive, and that's with the unofficial patch installed.

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2019, 05:40:25 PM »
Supposedly they will create a patch that will allow us to play the games even if they go out of business.

You really believe that from the guy who lied his ass off about the HL2 delays and killed off Troika while doing so? Does someone really think if Valve goes bankrupt they would use their final money and time to create cracks for all their thousands of games? Hell, they never even patched Bloodlines into a state that would run on modern PCs and I even offered them to use my patch for free, like GOG does...

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2019, 07:26:13 PM »
I would never buy digital stuff if I won't (or even can't) keep it at hand offline. It will always come the day you need something you own digitally but not an internet connection. And if I own any I should be able to use them whenever I need, not being dependant to external services and/or having to face restriction of any sorts.

I cannot stand the DRM technologies: if all the data needed to use a game will be installed on the pc the need of the cd in the computer loses any meaning. If I buy physically a game it's because I didn't wanted or couldn't use download it. I don't need cd checks online, I don't need a permanent internet connection to play a singleplayer game, I don't need an imposed platform to play and I don't want to buy cds which, without any notice, have only the cd key to download the game. It's unconceivable anything more insulting than punish those who did the honest thing.

I won't either spending money on rentals peddled as bought stuff as it's done on itunes or steam. Legally you have no ownership, you cannot sold or bequeath them. And only the fact these gimmick are deliberately explained only on the fine prints I find them revolting at least.

And, most of all, if these methods will continue things will only get worse. More and more limits will be imposed and "moral justifications" will be outcried to legalize them. Fuck.

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2019, 07:28:35 PM »
Supposedly they will create a patch that will allow us to play the games even if they go out of business.

You really believe that from the guy who lied his ass off about the HL2 delays and killed off Troika while doing so? Does someone really think if Valve goes bankrupt they would use their final money and time to create cracks for all their thousands of games? Hell, they never even patched Bloodlines into a state that would run on modern PCs and I even offered them to use my patch for free, like GOG does...

Obviously GOG is the better client overall, but Valve isn't going to sow bad cred with people who are completely unaware that they might lose all their games.

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2019, 12:35:59 AM »
I wish I still had my physical copy of bloodlines with no patches added whatsoever.  I suppose eventually I can get a copy for a somewhat reasonable price from Ebay but its hard for me to totally justify it right now with having it both on Steam and GOG.com.

You've been embraced twice then. Guess one can't have enough Bloodlines in their life.

I bought it on Steam first but often if the price is right and I see a game on GOG even if I have it on Steam or Origin, I get it on GOG.  I love the lack of DRM.

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Re: The Epic (Store) Fail
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2019, 04:09:28 AM »
I bought it on Steam first but often if the price is right and I see a game on GOG even if I have it on Steam or Origin, I get it on GOG.  I love the lack of DRM.

Now that you mention it, I am quite concerned about Origin. That is the client that can actually go down and under. And then what ? They will take Commander Shepard from me ?