In fact, I find the clan pic a bit hit or miss...
I could see Nosferatu being its own expansion later on since Nosferatu is one of the clans that demands the most reworking. Then again having nosferatu in the base game is a good way of showing off the different playstyles available to the player.Also how dare you imply that Ventrue should be left out, the greatest of all clans ...more or less
Quote from: Sabbat_stalker on May 03, 2019, 06:19:44 PMI could see Nosferatu being its own expansion later on since Nosferatu is one of the clans that demands the most reworking. Then again having nosferatu in the base game is a good way of showing off the different playstyles available to the player.Also how dare you imply that Ventrue should be left out, the greatest of all clans ...more or lessVentrue are shitty toreadors.I mean seriously, what is that clan's purpose or worth without the camarilla ?
Quote from: DarkZephyr on May 04, 2019, 12:41:12 AMI just can't pick those guys. One of the most fun things in BL1 is eating fucking rats and sucking their blood, and you can't do that with that clan.Aside from that, those guys REALLY don't have any purpose without the camarilla.I don't know, maybe BL2 will change my mind about them, we'll see.
I would contend that the Camarilla might not continue to exist if not for the cunning ruling class of Ventrue. Some Princes aren't Ventrue, sure, but most are, and politics, difficult decisions, and tactics are a Ventrue's specialty. The other clans' members are rarely suited for ruling. Toreador are obsessed with beauty and art, Malks are insane and other Kindred are hesitant to rally behind a raving lunatic. Nosferatu are often very anti-social and they like to be hidden and work from the shadows...even among Kindred society. Ruling isn't their cup of tea. Some Brujah would probably claim that they could run things better...but they're often just rebels who can tear something down but can't actually build it back up into something usable again. Gangrel are loners who usually don't want to live in a city while being super social and the center of attention and authority, while Tremere are blood bonded to one another and so loyal to their clan that a city's Kindred have a tough time trusting that they're looking out for anyone except the Tremere clan in all the major decisions that will affect the city.
Quote from: DarkProphet on May 04, 2019, 03:01:15 AMI would contend that the Camarilla might not continue to exist if not for the cunning ruling class of Ventrue. Some Princes aren't Ventrue, sure, but most are, and politics, difficult decisions, and tactics are a Ventrue's specialty. The other clans' members are rarely suited for ruling. Toreador are obsessed with beauty and art, Malks are insane and other Kindred are hesitant to rally behind a raving lunatic. Nosferatu are often very anti-social and they like to be hidden and work from the shadows...even among Kindred society. Ruling isn't their cup of tea. Some Brujah would probably claim that they could run things better...but they're often just rebels who can tear something down but can't actually build it back up into something usable again. Gangrel are loners who usually don't want to live in a city while being super social and the center of attention and authority, while Tremere are blood bonded to one another and so loyal to their clan that a city's Kindred have a tough time trusting that they're looking out for anyone except the Tremere clan in all the major decisions that will affect the city.A powerful argument, though it mostly depends on your agreement with the camarilla.I myself am more of the "Anarch Barons" type of system. There's just something about the camarilla that seems strange and unreliable to me, which is why I mostly dismiss the ventrue.
Also how dare you imply that Ventrue should be left out, the greatest of all clans ...more or less
I'm with you on thinking its Nosferatu. To me with all those wires on the walls it doesn't make sense that its an asylum. I won't declare with absolute certainty that its not, but wow, what a dangerous one it would be. The hallway seems a bit wide as well to be any kind of hospital and all that garbage on the floor. If it IS an asylum, its an abandoned one (one would hope).
In fact, I find the clan pic a bit hit or miss...Tremere, Brujah, Ventrue? Spot on. Toreador and...whatever this is? Less so.
I think the Toreador pic even without the Tremere one is fine. ;)Maybe a more bigger pic help?https://i.gyazo.com/cca86908836b9eebc183211a21721d79.png
or as someone else pointed out earlier, a Tremere chantry.
No art supplies in sight. Personally, for an iconic Toreador image, I would have expected an artist's studio or something utterly decadent, but I'm not saying it totally doesn't work or anything. Besides, all of these will be replaced once the clans are revealed anyway so it's probably not that important that they fit perfectly, but it does make fans speculate. :P
Besides, all of these will be replaced once the clans are revealed anyway so it's probably not that important that they fit perfectly, but it does make fans speculate. :P
Will we lose the thinblood discipline we chose once we become full vamp and join a clan? The Chiropteran discipline seems especially cool to me.
Will we lose the thinblood discipline we chose once we become full vamp and join a clan?
They have already official confimed that you keep your chosen thinblood discipline.
Quote from: DarkZephyr on May 04, 2019, 05:09:19 PMWill we lose the thinblood discipline we chose once we become full vamp and join a clan?No, which probably is the other reason why each clan gets only two of their typical disciplines. You still end up with three, although I haven't heard anything about Bloodbuff and Bloodheal and I really would like to be able to learn other disciplines latter in the game...
Quote from: Ghanima_Atreides on May 04, 2019, 03:32:35 PMBesides, all of these will be replaced once the clans are revealed anyway so it's probably not that important that they fit perfectly, but it does make fans speculate. :PTherefore it would be smart if they reveal the mysterious pic as last clan.By the way Resetera user Sibylus made this nice disciplines list. https://www.resetera.com/threads/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-announced-march-2020-ps4-x1-steam-gog-egs-paradox-hardsuit-labs.106909/page-40I only disagree with his Nosferatu and Malkavian assumptions.Nosferatu should have Obfuscate as their signature (exclusive) discipline and can´t have Potence because it seems like that for Bloodlines 2 its Brujah signature (exclusive) discipline.Animalism for Nosferatu and as well Gangrel would make more sense.Also Malkavian lost Obfuscate and get also Auspex.Quote from: DarkZephyr on May 04, 2019, 05:09:19 PMWill we lose the thinblood discipline we chose once we become full vamp and join a clan? The Chiropteran discipline seems especially cool to me. They have already official confimed that you keep your chosen thinblood discipline.