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Online Wilhelm-Streicher

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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2019, 01:14:14 PM »
I would rather play or encounter a Tzimisce, but I guess, that's not going to happen. Well maybe encounter, but not playing as one
Sorry but i still prefer LaSombra over Tzimisce. In Bloodlines 1 we already had Andrei as Tzimisce and the Library LaSombra is an added unofficial one with scrapped
lines from Andrei so it would be cooler if we get LaSombra(s) first.

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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2019, 03:38:45 PM »
I would rather play or encounter a Tzimisce, but I guess, that's not going to happen. Well maybe encounter, but not playing as one
Sorry but i still prefer LaSombra over Tzimisce. In Bloodlines 1 we already had Andrei as Tzimisce and the Library LaSombra is an added unofficial one with scrapped
lines from Andrei so it would be cooler if we get LaSombra(s) first.

I'm pretty sure, Lasombra will come as a DLC, so let us have a cool Tzimi NPC at least
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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2019, 05:28:01 PM »
I would rather play or encounter a Tzimisce, but I guess, that's not going to happen. Well maybe encounter, but not playing as one
Sorry but i still prefer LaSombra over Tzimisce. In Bloodlines 1 we already had Andrei as Tzimisce and the Library LaSombra is an added unofficial one with scrapped
lines from Andrei so it would be cooler if we get LaSombra(s) first.

Yeah, still Tzimisce fan here. I'm pretty sure, Lasombra will come as a DLC, so let us have a cool Tzimi NPC at least

If only this game would do really well and we could get a member of the 15 clans (and various Bloodlines if possible). Cappadocians, Ravnos, etc. would be cool. Could you imagine the Redemption board if Serena was an NPC? XD

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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2019, 05:45:31 PM »
We only saw "a Tzimisce" because he was the leader of the sabbat in BL1. There's not necessarily any reason why, if the sabbat, were to appear, we'd see Tzimisce, Lasombra or any other clan affiliated with them.

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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2019, 06:17:21 PM »
If only this game would do really well and we could get a member of the 15 clans (and various Bloodlines if possible). Cappadocians, Ravnos, etc. would be cool. Could you imagine the Redemption board if Serena was an NPC? XD
I don´t know there you find the exact video and therefore quote (Maybe the Ventrue clan video???) from producer Christian Schlütter but atleast for Bloodlines 2 they want
to focus only on the 7 original Bloodlines 1 clans. Maybe if the LaSombra demands are high enough we will see them too but for the moment i doubt that.
Bloodlines 3 is a full different story.

Sorry but i really don´t think we get more than 3 (free!!!) Clan DLCs. Nosferatu and Gangrel are the obvious candidates and the LaSombra is a doubtful case.
I am pessimistic so i personally only expect 2 Clan DLCs.

So if you want play as Tzimisce, Cappadocians, Ravnos, etc in Bloodlines 2 well you have only option on PC. Use Mods.

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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2019, 06:41:47 PM »
Sorry but i really don´t think we get more than 3 (free!!!) Clan DLCs. Nosferatu and Gangrel are the obvious candidates and the LaSombra is a doubtful case.

What about the non-free clans ? Is it specified how DLC will even work in this entry ?

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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2019, 06:53:59 PM »
What about the non-free clans ? Is it specified how DLC will even work in this entry ?
I doubt that but i also can´t rule this out.

I can only say this because these are the facts.
We get Story Pack 1 & 2 and an Expansion which have a Werewolf theme plus atleast two free clan dlcs.


Maybe that´s all we get for Bloodlines 2. I only expect on top many cosmetic outfit/weapon DLCs.

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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2019, 07:20:23 PM »

Excellent. Many games however, have many seasons where they offer different content. So maybe there's more we don't know ?

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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2019, 07:50:45 PM »
Excellent. Many games however, have many seasons where they offer different content. So maybe there's more we don't know ?
Maybe theoretically but at the end it depends on Bloodlines 2 sales. Right now i say No. They haven´t put much thought beyond Season of the Wolf because
well the main game isn´t finished and much of their focus is on that.

Also its true that there are games with many season pass but mainly there are Online or Beat´em Up games.

By the way don´t  you think that two Story Packs, one big expansion and two-three free clan  plus tons of cosmetic DLCs are more than enough?

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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2019, 07:55:14 PM »
By the way don´t  you think that two Story Packs, one big expansion and two-three free clan  plus tons of cosmetic DLCs are more than enough?

To me it is, without question. I just wonder about the possibilities and tentative changes that might come as time passes.

I myself have always been on the fence about typically sabbat clans being introduced as playable in Bloodlines because of the fundamental diferences between those clans and the camarilla ones. The fact that they are considered "antitribu" means the way they are played has to be radically different from what we usually see with the fav seven.

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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2019, 08:06:41 PM »
^ That's something I actually don't understand.

Yet again (at least on initial release) we're limited to the clans we can play, and it's even less than in VTMB1. In that case, I understand that it had to do with copyright, but in this case, isn't that reason out the window? Doesn't Paradox own White Wolf no or something like that?

So why can't we have all the Clans? Why can't we have Bloodlines? Why can't I play as a Tzimisce? Or a Baali? Or a Daughter of Cacophony? Or a Giovanni? What's stopping them from going all the way, here?

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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2019, 08:21:38 PM »
^ That's something I actually don't understand.

Yet again (at least on initial release) we're limited to the clans we can play, and it's even less than in VTMB1. In that case, I understand that it had to do with copyright, but in this case, isn't that reason out the window? Doesn't Paradox own White Wolf no or something like that?

So why can't we have all the Clans? Why can't we have Bloodlines? Why can't I play as a Tzimisce? Or a Baali? Or a Daughter of Cacophony? Or a Giovanni? What's stopping them from going all the way, here?
Paradox can do whatever they want with Bloodlines and their other World of Darkness games. They own White Wolf and therefore everything WOD related.
Reason why we don´t get play as Non-Seven / Original Bloodlines 1 clan is simple first nostalgia, second they want to start fresh with Bloodlines 2 and don´t expect
that every Bloodlines 2 player had played Bloodlines 1 over anything else WOD and third of course third time and money.

I think they really should give us atleast one new clan which wasn´t playable in Bloodlines 1 because this is a sequel and we still have the same clans and nothing new.

Edit: I forget the main important reason why won´t get more than 2-3 clans on top because they made the statement that all Clan DLCs will be free.
And do you guys really believe we get more than 3 clans for free? Come on.
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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2019, 09:02:43 PM »
Yet again (at least on initial release) we're limited to the clans we can play, and it's even less than in VTMB1. In that case, I understand that it had to do with copyright, but in this case, isn't that reason out the window?

This had nothing to do with copyright. Bloodlines 1 is a story about a Camarilla vampire that might have worked a bit for the Anarchs in a situation where both were forced to tolerate each other anyway! To add special clans the main story would have needed a lot of changes, and all mods doing this, like TFN, ATM and even the CQM when you play as a Sabbat, take the easy road and make very little changes. The CQM does it best with the new ending, but even there Diablerie should be game over in a Camarilla/Anarch city!

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So why can't we have all the Clans? Why can't we have Bloodlines? Why can't I play as a Tzimisce? Or a Baali? Or a Daughter of Cacophony? Or a Giovanni? What's stopping them from going all the way, here?

See above. You can use the same main story line for common Camarilla clans, everything else would need more work and time which they probably don't have...
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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2019, 10:36:15 PM »
So maybe they should do future DLCs featuring not just different clans, but different gameplay based on those clans? Or future VTMB games with different clans and such?

IDK... I just want to play something different in terms of clan/bloodlines.

Hell I've even toyed around with my own sort of "what I'd want to see if they did a VTMB1 remaster" (no, not that shit I shared here a little while back in the appropriate forum; that was... a lot... some stuff I liked, but... a lot).
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Re: Pick your team baby, it's the Faction Topic !
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2019, 08:50:41 AM »
So maybe they should do future DLCs featuring not just different clan, but different gameplay based on those clans?

Exactly. I fondly remember the Half-Life expansions Opposing Force and Blue Shift, which instead of cutting a piece of the game out for latter as many current DLCs do, showed the same events from another perspective with new gameplay and story. Something like this would be cool in Bloodlines 2!