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Offline Wilhelm-Streicher

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New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« on: October 26, 2020, 09:39:16 pm »
Well, well, big news: Bloodlines 2 has two new hirings.

Samantha Wallschlaeger is the new Lead Narrative Designer.https://twitter.com/StillNotSam/status/1320772485831258113
She was a former Bioware Austin writer mainly for SWTOR and she also did some stuff for Mass Effect Andromeda. To be honest i am not impressed.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5019196/
And there is Joran Mychal Lemos as the new Senior Narrative Designer.https://twitter.com/crypticjordan?lang=de
He was a writer on Assassins Creed Odyssey and Ghost of Tsushima.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10162048/
Man, i really don´t know what to think about this. I really hope that both are respecting Brian's and Cara's previous work but who knows?
Also does this news put the theory to bed that the writing Bloodlines 2 basic game is done? Or are both just hired for the DLCs and the big expansion.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2020, 10:44:02 pm by Wesp5 »

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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2020, 10:54:12 pm »
From what both of them were posting it sounds as if they are only fixing some last bits for now and were hired for the upcoming DLCs. Wallschlaeger writes "At this point, I'll just be supporting my new team in whatever tiny ways I can. But I'm so excited for future stuff..." and Lemos writes "I'll be helping them get current stuff out the door, but really I'm joining for whatever comes next."

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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2020, 01:24:31 am »
I'm guessing they're cheap labor for the expansion and DLCs. After all, no one intelligent would give a writer from Mass Effect Andromeda money. I would make such a person pay me to have the privilege of writing for me despite that person's sordid history. The multiplayer was better than the single player, and that's with the multiplayer being a friggin' gacha nightmare designed to milk microtransactions out of stupid, weak-willed players. When a mode with no plot is better than the parts with plot, a game has some writing problems...
And I checked out of the Assassin's Creed series pretty early in the second game, though not for narrative reasons. It seemed okay, but I wasn't interested in seeing that world any more. I don't know if AC Odyssey was well-written or not.
I think they're making a poor decision to use these folks instead of Mitsoda, if Mitsoda's prior work is any indicator...unless Mitsoda just isn't good at writing for werewolf characters or short narratives (expansion plot bigger than a little side quest but smaller than a full-on main game). Who knows?
Thanks for keeping us in the loop with the Twitter the kids use these days.

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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2020, 02:18:29 am »
So firing both Brian and Cara wasn't just about saving costs... which already looked bad.

I'm guessing they're cheap labor for the expansion and DLCs. After all, no one intelligent would give a writer from Mass Effect Andromeda money. I would make such a person pay me to have the privilege of writing for me despite that person's sordid history.

Yeah... how many books have you written DarkProphet ?
« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 01:26:47 pm by Highwayman667 »

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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2020, 02:25:15 am »
Eh, I only played a bit of the first Mass Effect game and bit of a few Assassin Creed games, and I am not a huge fan of both franchises.  But thank you for keeping us updated Wilhelm.  I don't use Twitter so if it wasn't for your updates I would not know anything that is going on with the game.

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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2020, 07:20:52 am »
I'm guessing they're cheap labor for the expansion and DLCs.
Maybe you are onto something.

From Jordan Mychal Lemos himself on 22 October: "Instead of talking about the other thing, how about we talk about the fact that devs don't get their bonuses if they leave the studio before bonuses are handed out. The bonus should be for the work and the game doing well, not for just sticking around and "loyalty". Is the dev's work in the game and contributed to the great sales? Cool, reward them with it regardless of where they are now. You have the money to do without an issue, but you're choosing not to because they are no longer around a year or more after launch. Bonuses are basically the only way devs get to see any share of the profits whatsoever, especially if a game sells way more than expected. So give it to them. All of them." https://twitter.com/crypticjordan?lang=de

Maybe this whole drama was only about bonuses aka of course money?
This would make absolute sense that they kicked all of people from the beginning because Hardsuit Labs don´t want to pay them bonuses. I mean Mitsoda said that the narrative parts aren´t the reason why the game was delayed and this wasn´t personal stuff like Avellone so what could it else be rather than some money stuff?
Edit: But why did Lemos make this twitter post? What was his intention? I mean if this story is true won´t it be stupid that he post something like this?
« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 10:08:00 am by Wesp5 »

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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2020, 07:39:13 am »
This whole thing has me so baffled. There are so many possibilities as to what could have happened. @_@

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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2020, 10:13:04 am »
Maybe this whole drama was only about bonuses aka of course money?
I don't believe that. Who would work for HSL after they pull this off? Certainly not the guy twittering about it...
P.S.: I just read on RPGCodex that the new lead of Bloodlines 2 was one of the women that got Avellone canceled! What a coincidence they removed all his stuff... https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/vampire-the-masquerade-%E2%80%93-bloodlines-2-from-hardsuit-labs-and-paradox-interactive.126124/page-422
« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 11:36:24 am by Wesp5 »

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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2020, 12:10:26 pm »
As some of you know from the gaming threads in the OT forums, I'm a big SWTOR fan. But the writing might be good for Star Wars standards, but SW was never a franchise of deep storytelling.
I'm really not hyped for the upcoming game anymore. I will read reviews and watch Let's Plays before deciding to buy the game.
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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2020, 03:21:52 pm »
Maybe this whole drama was only about bonuses aka of course money?
I don't believe that. Who would work for HSL after they pull this off? Certainly not the guy twittering about it...
P.S.: I just read on RPGCodex that the new lead of Bloodlines 2 was one of the women that got Avellone canceled! What a coincidence they removed all his stuff... https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/vampire-the-masquerade-%E2%80%93-bloodlines-2-from-hardsuit-labs-and-paradox-interactive.126124/page-422
Let's hope that the delay and loss of money necessary to replace Mitsoda's work would be too costly. I'm crossing my fingers that the new folks are only handling the expansion/DLCs and possibly "seeding" writing into the main game that won't make the expansion and DLCs feel too foreign. By that, I mean perhaps adding a couple of NPCs or lines of dialog that don't make the expansion/DLC feel like they came out of nowhere and are "tacked on" like most expansions/DLCs are in games.
Or they might just be covering their own asses by claiming these people are working on the main game when they're really not, because if they admit that all of Brian's work was done, then they're admitting to it being a lack of work (layoff) rather than a discharge (separation while work remains for the person that needed doing).

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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2020, 05:32:59 pm »
I don't believe that. Who would work for HSL after they pull this off? Certainly not the guy twittering about it...
Maybe he needs the job that much which isn´t that unbelievable in 2020. Also he would get the bonus.

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P.S.: I just read on RPGCodex that the new lead of Bloodlines 2 was one of the women that got Avellone canceled! What a coincidence they removed all his stuff... https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/vampire-the-masquerade-%E2%80%93-bloodlines-2-from-hardsuit-labs-and-paradox-interactive.126124/page-422
« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 05:44:27 pm by Wilhelm-Streicher »

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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2020, 06:24:09 pm »
It never ends...
Edit: Footage of HSL (car) and baffling news (clowns) during a normal work day.

« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 06:26:19 pm by mdqp »

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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2020, 07:03:44 pm »

I posted this on Steam and I will post on here again:


I actually cannot believe this, the moderator for this Steam page as well as the Paradox Plaza is being completely unfair and hypocritical. There is no logical reasoning that is allowed with this person and that needs to be discussed. The moderator on several threads in which she has either locked, banned members, or warned others not to derail based off of political arguments is completely against what the company and developer are currently preaching. I will give a recent example. A lot of people were and are still upset that Brian Mitsoda was fired and Cara left. And while Hardsuit/Paradox have not explicitly said they were replaced, we can make a safe guess that they were replaced with Samantha Wallschlaeger and Jordan Lamos. Chris Avellone was fired from various studios including Hardsuit after a Karissa and Samantha both falsely accused him of sexual harrassment without going to the appropriate authorities. The twitter posts posted by both were subsequently deleted and Karissa bravely went as far as admitting to her lies (unlike Samantha) after all the damage was done. (Can I link Twitter posts? But check out the YouTube video Exoneration of Chris Avellone) Hardsuit and Paradox HIRE Samantha, someone who literally lied without any evidence or going to any authorities about harrassment, after her stunt with Chris Avellone. The company is literally hiring "talent" based on drama on the internet and not appropriate credentials and ultimately pity? Do you not see the issue with this logic moderator of this forum? A company hiring an individual out of pity? The best metaphor I can think of for this is, if a manager at a fast-food restaurant is falsely accused of berating a customer with little to no employment experience and then that restaurant hires that customer to be the manager out of pity. That's horrible. A company with an actual human resource department would have fired Chris Avellone and not even considered Samantha based on the drama she created. No legitimate company wants to hire an employee who will stir up drama and cause ruckus between employees. But they did, so that goes to show they have little to no morals and make rash decisions. Now my question is - to the moderator - why is it NOT ok for us to discuss how Hardsuit and Paradox treats its individual employees, and its hiring based on political movements and climate but its somehow OK for these organizations actually ACT disrespectfully and immorally? There are some individuals who take it too far with actual threats and extreme insults, but I literally have not seen that on here. Everyone is literally just upset with how Hardsuit and Paradox continues to treat individuals without any sort of empathy, sympathy or respect. It's ok for a Hardsuit employee (Samantha) to berate people but its somehow NOT ok for us to discuss how disrespectful that is?
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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2020, 07:11:48 pm »
I actually cannot believe this, the moderator for this Steam page as well as the Paradox Plaza is being completely unfair and hypocritical. There is no logical reasoning that is allowed with this person and that needs to be discussed.The moderator on several threads in which she has either locked, banned members, or warned others not to derail based off of political arguments is completely against what the company and developer are currently preaching. I will give a recent example. A lot of people were and are still upset that Brian Mitsoda was fired and Cara left.
I know, i was one who found out about the Cara Ellison departure and therefore i got a bann for my Andrei the Tzimisce account. Also they couldn´t handle my critism about this. So yeah i am proudly banned.
"You have been banned for the following reason: Rules violations. Your ban will be lifted on Jan 29, 2022 at 16:57."
« Last Edit: October 27, 2020, 08:15:19 pm by Wesp5 »

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Re: New Lead Narrative Designer and Senior Narrative Designer
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2020, 01:45:52 pm »
This is getting better and better.  :facepalm: The direction is clear. Mainstream soulless crap.

 

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