If this is the case, I am hoping more for a 7th or 8th gen. Our PC in the first game was at least 8th Gen (https://vtmb.fandom.com/wiki/The_Protagonist, plus the Tzimisce was able to sense or smell powerful potential in our blood). I don't want a weaker Gen this time 'round.
Quote from: DarkZephyr on April 28, 2019, 02:24:16 amIf this is the case, I am hoping more for a 7th or 8th gen. Our PC in the first game was at least 8th Gen (https://vtmb.fandom.com/wiki/The_Protagonist, plus the Tzimisce was able to sense or smell powerful potential in our blood). I don't want a weaker Gen this time 'round.If a kindred diablerizes another, doesn't that "upgrade" his gen ?
Yes, as long as the one diablerized is a generation or more lower.
Quote from: DarkZephyr on April 28, 2019, 03:58:19 amYes, as long as the one diablerized is a generation or more lower.What if Lacroix would've eaten an actual antideluvian ?
Quote from: Highwayman667 on April 28, 2019, 07:42:01 pmQuote from: DarkZephyr on April 28, 2019, 03:58:19 amYes, as long as the one diablerized is a generation or more lower.What if Lacroix would've eaten an actual antideluvian ?If he had done so successfully, he would become 3rd Gen like Tremere did. Although there's the possibility that the soul of whoever he diablerized would survive and battle him for control of the body, like with Tremere and Saulot.
Quote from: DarkZephyr on April 28, 2019, 10:19:51 pmQuote from: Highwayman667 on April 28, 2019, 07:42:01 pmQuote from: DarkZephyr on April 28, 2019, 03:58:19 amYes, as long as the one diablerized is a generation or more lower.What if Lacroix would've eaten an actual antideluvian ?If he had done so successfully, he would become 3rd Gen like Tremere did. Although there's the possibility that the soul of whoever he diablerized would survive and battle him for control of the body, like with Tremere and Saulot. I typed a really long response but planet-vampire diablerized my post! Anyway, that's not how it works. The rules are all over the place and inconsistent from game to game. The storyteller has the ultimate say, but you will usually go down several generations but not all the way to the Kindred's generation whom you diablerized. So a 13th gen diablerizing a 4th gen might become an 8th gen or some such. Some rules say the diablerizing kindred's gen + the diablerized kindred's gen, then divide the sum by 2, then subtract 1? But the example given just doesn't work and they screw the math up.Anyway, like I said...the Storyteller will say what your gen becomes, but you're highly unlikely to match the gen you diablerized unless the one you diablerized is exactly one gen below your own. Now 3rd gen could be an exception since the Storyteller and White Wolf probably want 3rd gen to continue to exist and diablerizing it to cut its blood potency down in that clan permanently with no chance to go back up again sounds like something that wouldn't be allowed.Then again, unless you have one seriously silly rascal of a Storyteller, he/she isn't going to allow you to diablerized a 3rd gen...and if he/she lets you, the Storyteller almost certainly plans on having you just be a vessel for the Antediluvian to inhabit your body with your soul locked away, the Antediluvian having complete control and using your body and its powers as the tool to attempt to consume all Kindred of its clan and wreak havoc, do whatever other shenanigans that particular Antediluvian wants to get up to, etc.
It was strongly implied that's what Lacroix was expecting would happen as well. He had godhood aspirations.
I don't play with storytellers and the pen and paper game. I love the lore and read about it as much as I can, but the only games I play are the PC games. Anyway, canonically, Tremere diablerized an Antediluvian and became an Antediluvian. So if that's not how it works, White Wolf played fast and loose with their own rules: https://tinyurl.com/y5mryoek
Quote from: DarkZephyr on April 29, 2019, 06:42:45 amI don't play with storytellers and the pen and paper game. I love the lore and read about it as much as I can, but the only games I play are the PC games. Anyway, canonically, Tremere diablerized an Antediluvian and became an Antediluvian. So if that's not how it works, White Wolf played fast and loose with their own rules: https://tinyurl.com/y5mryoekThey diablerized an antediluvian ? As humans or kindred ? If it was the latter, were they another clan before ?I should probably catch up on my lore.
It was strongly implied that's what Lacroix was expecting would happen as well. He had godhood aspirations.(ARGH, I didn't mean to Dislike your post, DarkZephyr! I was trying to click Agree and hit that by accident and now I cannot change it anymore. :/ )
(ARGH, I didn't mean to Dislike your post, DarkZephyr! I was trying to click Agree and hit that by accident and now I cannot change it anymore. :/ )