Give it another shot. Fuck that rat.Seriously, first two Fallouts are absolute musts.
I couldn't get into them, sadly. The third one was decent. New Vegas was my favorite. 4 really ruined the conversations and dialog variety. 76 I'll probably never play because it's microtransaction/grindy bullshit, I hear.
4 really ruined the conversations and dialog variety.
Quote from: DarkProphet on May 17, 2019, 03:09:43 AM4 really ruined the conversations and dialog variety.I'm a bit fearful some developers might interpret this failure as "People don't like voiced protagonists", which is just... mind-grating to me.
Quote from: Highwayman667 on May 19, 2019, 03:39:56 AMQuote from: DarkProphet on May 17, 2019, 03:09:43 AM4 really ruined the conversations and dialog variety.I'm a bit fearful some developers might interpret this failure as "People don't like voiced protagonists", which is just... mind-grating to me.A lot of people don't. I don't mind them but I have certainly read stuff from a lot of people who can't stand them.
Quote from: DarkZephyr on May 19, 2019, 03:45:19 AMQuote from: Highwayman667 on May 19, 2019, 03:39:56 AMQuote from: DarkProphet on May 17, 2019, 03:09:43 AM4 really ruined the conversations and dialog variety.I'm a bit fearful some developers might interpret this failure as "People don't like voiced protagonists", which is just... mind-grating to me.A lot of people don't. I don't mind them but I have certainly read stuff from a lot of people who can't stand them. Have you guys played Alpha Protocol? Clunky game but pretty cool. The protagonist has some reeeeeally lame voice acting.If a game has a voiced protagonist, it had better be REALLY good; like Geralt or Shepard levels of good.
Quote from: DarkProphet on May 19, 2019, 04:57:16 AMQuote from: DarkZephyr on May 19, 2019, 03:45:19 AMQuote from: Highwayman667 on May 19, 2019, 03:39:56 AMQuote from: DarkProphet on May 17, 2019, 03:09:43 AM4 really ruined the conversations and dialog variety.I'm a bit fearful some developers might interpret this failure as "People don't like voiced protagonists", which is just... mind-grating to me.A lot of people don't. I don't mind them but I have certainly read stuff from a lot of people who can't stand them. Have you guys played Alpha Protocol? Clunky game but pretty cool. The protagonist has some reeeeeally lame voice acting.If a game has a voiced protagonist, it had better be REALLY good; like Geralt or Shepard levels of good.I have never played it but I agree that crappy PC voice acting would certainly ruin it, but it would be the same if the NPC's voice acting was crap as well. I thought the guy who did Nate's voice acting in Fallout 4 was pretty good.
"Nate" was his name? :O I just Googled it and wow, I had no idea. I think I just used my own name and had Cogsworth calling me by my real name. =p
Have you guys played Alpha Protocol? Clunky game but pretty cool. The protagonist has some reeeeeally lame voice acting.If a game has a voiced protagonist, it had better be REALLY good; like Geralt or Shepard levels of good.
Fuck no, it's ridiculous that we play with "dolls" around fully realized characters.
Quote from: DarkProphet on May 19, 2019, 04:57:16 AMHave you guys played Alpha Protocol? Clunky game but pretty cool. The protagonist has some reeeeeally lame voice acting.If a game has a voiced protagonist, it had better be REALLY good; like Geralt or Shepard levels of good.It's a lesser game to me when a game doesn't have a voiced protagonist. I can give games like Arcanum, Icewind Dale, Planescape Torment and Neverwinter Nights a pass because back in the day it was a pretty hard thing to accomplish.These days though ? Fuck no, it's ridiculous that we play with "dolls" around fully realized characters. I have a real gripe with the RPG community on this one; which is silly given how well the Mass Effect and Witcher series solved this issue.
Sorry, but YOU are supposed to be the player character, not some doll. And of course voicing them would take a part away from how YOU want to play them! Besides that the number of options in dialogue would be hard to voice and impossible to later improve on, like in the UP.
Wesp makes a great point too. Patching and modding becomes a lot more difficult with voiced protagonists as well.
Quote from: DarkZephyr on May 20, 2019, 12:30:45 AMWesp makes a great point too. Patching and modding becomes a lot more difficult with voiced protagonists as well.Oh lordy I don't know about this one. I'd rather not have the developers be concerned about what the mod community thinks, to the point of not bothering to hire voice actors for a main character. I understand how mods are important to a lot of people buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut... I don't want to play with dolls, I want to immerse myself in a world that has living, breathing characters.
Some dolls speak when you pull a string or click a button. Still dolls. =p