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Re: Referrals on Paradox to Unlock Content for Bloodlines 2?
« Reply #60 on: May 07, 2019, 02:13:26 AM »
Lmao I thought about trying to describe it, but that's almost exactly what I would say. Oh my...I just Googled it, and it looks like the Tremere symbol changed! Now instead of a ball-square-triangle thingy, it's a whole shitload of balls, squares, and a triangle!

I'm reading about it and it's quite the complex piece of math and alchemy symbols. Goddamn tremeres !

On the bright side, it sounds like that blood-bond-to-the-higher-ups no longer exists in V5, which makes Tremere sound much more interesting from a pen and paper game perspective. I always hated the idea of playing a Tremere in the older versions of the pen and paper because I would expect to be doing secretive shenanigans with my clan, then my grandsire comes along like "Yo, tell me your secrets" and I have to due to the blood bond unless I can pass a willpower roll.

Then again, any Kindred with Dominate could force any other Kindred who fails a roll to do as they please, but it was especially bad for Tremere since they have their own clan society and it wouldn't be uncouth to do such things to progeny, whereas it could be seen as hostile with a Tremere Dominating another clan member, at least "publicly."

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Re: Referrals on Paradox to Unlock Content for Bloodlines 2?
« Reply #61 on: May 07, 2019, 02:37:33 AM »
On the bright side, it sounds like that blood-bond-to-the-higher-ups no longer exists in V5, which makes Tremere sound much more interesting from a pen and paper game perspective. I always hated the idea of playing a Tremere in the older versions of the pen and paper because I would expect to be doing secretive shenanigans with my clan, then my grandsire comes along like "Yo, tell me your secrets" and I have to due to the blood bond unless I can pass a willpower roll.

They are quite the amazing clan actually. Unsung heroes of the World of Darkness when they battled the Tzimisce during the Dark Ages. Shame a few tumorheads like Bertram Tung don't seem to remember that !
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Re: Referrals on Paradox to Unlock Content for Bloodlines 2?
« Reply #62 on: May 07, 2019, 04:03:03 AM »
On the bright side, it sounds like that blood-bond-to-the-higher-ups no longer exists in V5, which makes Tremere sound much more interesting from a pen and paper game perspective. I always hated the idea of playing a Tremere in the older versions of the pen and paper because I would expect to be doing secretive shenanigans with my clan, then my grandsire comes along like "Yo, tell me your secrets" and I have to due to the blood bond unless I can pass a willpower roll.

They are quite the amazing clan actually. Unsung heroes of the World of Darkness when they battled the Tzimisce during the Dark Ages. Shame a few tumorheads like Bertram Tung don't seem to remember that !

I think the reason Kindred don't trust tremere is...well, two things: one, they are more devoted to their clan than a cause than most other clans, and two, they can do some really frightening stuff with their Disciplines/rituals. For example, there's a ritual they can do to create a stake which actually KILLS Kindred. Oh, and if you fail to hit the heart? A splinter will be inside the Kindred, wherever you stabbed it...and the splinter will magically move through the Kindred's body without it necessarily knowing it's happening, until the splinter pierces the heart...giving instant Final Death. You have to have another character attempt to remove the splinter, or lop the body part off (provided it's not in your head or your torso, in which case that's not a survivable option, really).

And what's worse, since it's a ritual, that means it's prepared in advance...and the Tremere doesn't need to wield the stake. The Tremere could give it to a Brujah or someone else with great melee skills to ensure that the attacker has a great chance of actually pulling off a good staking.

You might say "but the Tremere is putting his life on the line by even creating that stake! The Brujah could kill the Tremere with it! Oho, you'd be right...if not for the fact that another ritual allows a Tremere to turn his/her heart into stone, so it's impossible to be staked. XD

The list goes on of the crazy stuff Tremere can do. Heck, and that's just listed stuff in the manuals. Supposedly, you can simply tell the Storyteller what kind of spell/ritual you would like to do, and most anything is possible, though you would need certain components, etc. I think Mages can go to further extremes, like shifting gravity and teleporting willy-nilly all over the place, but Tremere can go much further in terms of a variety of abilities than any other Kindred clan.
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Re: Referrals on Paradox to Unlock Content for Bloodlines 2?
« Reply #63 on: May 07, 2019, 11:56:46 PM »
I think the reason Kindred don't trust tremere is...well, two things: one, they are more devoted to their clan than a cause than most other clans, and two, they can do some really frightening stuff with their Disciplines/rituals. For example, there's a ritual they can do to create a stake which actually KILLS Kindred. Oh, and if you fail to hit the heart? A splinter will be inside the Kindred, wherever you stabbed it...and the splinter will magically move through the Kindred's body without it necessarily knowing it's happening, until the splinter pierces the heart...giving instant Final Death. You have to have another character attempt to remove the splinter, or lop the body part off (provided it's not in your head or your torso, in which case that's not a survivable option, really).

That's just way too overpowered xD ...

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Re: Referrals on Paradox to Unlock Content for Bloodlines 2?
« Reply #64 on: May 08, 2019, 12:52:46 AM »
I think the reason Kindred don't trust tremere is...well, two things: one, they are more devoted to their clan than a cause than most other clans, and two, they can do some really frightening stuff with their Disciplines/rituals. For example, there's a ritual they can do to create a stake which actually KILLS Kindred. Oh, and if you fail to hit the heart? A splinter will be inside the Kindred, wherever you stabbed it...and the splinter will magically move through the Kindred's body without it necessarily knowing it's happening, until the splinter pierces the heart...giving instant Final Death. You have to have another character attempt to remove the splinter, or lop the body part off (provided it's not in your head or your torso, in which case that's not a survivable option, really).

That's just way too overpowered xD ...

I know, right? And in the another topic, I just posted that they have a ritual to automatically wake them up if they're in danger during the day. Other Kindred are just screwed if they get found by a Hunter or rival's ghoul in the afternoon. XD

Oh, and you can make a one-way teleportation circle that you can take one person through with you as a ritual, too. You do have to prepare the entry and exit ahead of time, but you could totally have your escape teleporter in a back cubby of your haven in case you're attacked, with the exit in a storage shed you rented under another name to pop out in with a buddy. Then just mess up the exit circle after you're through, and no one will find you.

Ha, or same ritual, but you could do a big, epic heist/assault to acquire a relic from the Sabbat and have your teleportation circle prepped in a hidden spot like a sewer just off to the side of their building, then come running out of it and make a getaway for you and your ally as you're being pursued...or be a total jerk and salute your "ally," stepping into the circle at a dead end of the sewer as the enemy rushes up, making a snarky remark and teleport away by yourself, leaving your "ally" to suffer at the hands of the Sabbat who were pursuing the two of you (assuming your "ally" pissed you off a while back and you've been waiting for epic revenge, etc.).

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Re: Referrals on Paradox to Unlock Content for Bloodlines 2?
« Reply #65 on: May 08, 2019, 05:07:41 PM »
The next unlockable reward is the Haven Decoration Tremere Clan Sign.

So that means very likely that Ventrue, Toreador and Nosferatu/Malkavian also get a Haven Decoration Clan Sign.

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Re: Referrals on Paradox to Unlock Content for Bloodlines 2?
« Reply #66 on: May 08, 2019, 11:54:41 PM »
The next unlockable reward is the Haven Decoration Tremere Clan Sign.

So that means very likely that Ventrue, Toreador and Nosferatu/Malkavian also get a Haven Decoration Clan Sign.

Lazy, but at least it's free, I suppose.

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Re: Referrals on Paradox to Unlock Content for Bloodlines 2?
« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2019, 12:15:38 AM »
Lazy, but at least it's free, I suppose.

Patience son, we must see what other rewards are there !

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Re: Referrals on Paradox to Unlock Content for Bloodlines 2?
« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2019, 02:06:41 AM »
Lazy, but at least it's free, I suppose.

Patience son, we must see what other rewards are there !

Hopefully some cool stuff! Could you imagine a visiting Kindred's reaction if they came into your haven and saw that you were flagging a Tzimisce clan symbol? Like...in the mortal world, that would be like going into someone's home and they've got a huge Nazi flag hanging from the wall. XD
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Re: Referrals on Paradox to Unlock Content for Bloodlines 2?
« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2019, 02:48:00 AM »
Hopefully some cool stuff! Could you imagine a visiting Kindred's reaction if they came into your haven and saw that you were flagging a Tzimisce clan symbol? Like...in the mortal world, that would be like going into someone's home and they've got a huge Nazi flag hanging from the wall. XD

Can't have Tremere guests in that case. Lol.