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Title: Maybe some news at PDXCON Remix ( May 21-23) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on February 12, 2021, 01:32:11 pm
I don´t say that Bloodlines 2 will be part of the PDCON but there is a "chance" that we get a sign of life. Maybe we get the name of the studio.
https://pdxcon.paradoxplaza.com/ (https://pdxcon.paradoxplaza.com/)
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Happydeathclaw on February 12, 2021, 07:03:59 pm
All the right sort of people who have gone are in bu'ness again, that's the only sign of life.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on February 14, 2021, 11:11:16 pm
WTF

Jacobb C. Watkins: "Mr/Miss HSL may we know one way or the other if Bloodlines 2 will be at the March PDX event?"
Hardsuit Labs: "Good morning! That's not something that will be released or discussed here. I would keep an eye on the @VTM_Bloodlines twitter account for information of that nature. That's where they will release info about the game. :3"
Data: "Well funny thing I've been keeping an eye over there for about 5 months now. Whats the over under for the next 5 month on receiving any 'news' ? Very disappointing."

https://twitter.com/HardsuitLabs/status/1360254565417820164 (https://twitter.com/HardsuitLabs/status/1360254565417820164)

Man i really don´t trust Hardsuit Labs anymore but hey maybe you should post more pets pics on your Twitter page.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Happydeathclaw on February 17, 2021, 04:19:25 pm
Man i really don´t trust Hardsuit Labs anymore


It took a while
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on February 17, 2021, 05:47:13 pm
It took a while
Not really, besides the starpower of Brian Mitsoda i never have truly believed in Hardsuit Labs.
Speaking of HL we have some news. HL is looking for a new Senior Envionment Artist, Lead Character Artist and Lead Concept Artist for current and future projects.
https://careers.hardsuitlabs.com/jobs (https://careers.hardsuitlabs.com/jobs)Also it seems that they found a new Audio Director.
By the way is anyone from this Forum maybe in contact with Rik Schaffer or his wife Margaret Tang?
Are they also not longer involved or, big surprise, still working on Bloodlines 2?
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Talyn82 on February 18, 2021, 12:34:46 am
It took a while
Not really, besides the starpower of Brian Mitsoda i never have truly believed in Hardsuit Labs.
Speaking of HL we have some news. HL is looking for a new Senior Envionment Artist, Lead Character Artist and Lead Concept Artist for current and future projects.
https://careers.hardsuitlabs.com/jobs (https://careers.hardsuitlabs.com/jobs)Also it seems that they found a new Audio Director.
By the way is anyone from this Forum maybe in contact with Rik Schaffer or his wife Margaret Tang?
Are they also not longer involved or, big surprise, still working on Bloodlines 2?



Don't quote me on this but I remember reading here on this forum that both Rik Schaffer and his wife were let go.  When I read about all these layoff's I keep remembering what a youtuber said about a possibility of HSL redoing Bloodlines 2.  If so I won't be surprised that if they ever release the game the company will go under soon afterwards like Troika did, due to all the money invested in the project already.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: mdqp on February 18, 2021, 10:54:44 am
How many of you guys still think they aren't going to change Brian's work? To be honest, the longer the silence, the more I start to believe they are definitely messing around with that as well. At first I was "a lot of the work was done already, so they aren't going to change too much, even if firing him makes me suspicious", but at this point it feels more like "are they developing a new game from scratch or what?"
Is the PR team trying to stay silent for a few more months so that casual fans of the franchise are more likely to forget the various blunders so far? I mean, I fully expect PR to lie/exaggerate, not to stay silent, it's just weird.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Talyn82 on February 18, 2021, 11:52:02 am
How many of you guys still think they aren't going to change Brian's work? To be honest, the longer the silence, the more I start to believe they are definitely messing around with that as well. At first I was "a lot of the work was done already, so they aren't going to change too much, even if firing him makes me suspicious", but at this point it feels more like "are they developing a new game from scratch or what?"
Is the PR team trying to stay silent for a few more months so that casual fans of the franchise are more likely to forget the various blunders so far? I mean, I fully expect PR to lie/exaggerate, not to stay silent, it's just weird.



The more I hear about these layoffs the more I begin to believe a video I saw on Youtube stating the game was most likely being redone from scratch.  They based this on the job positions Hardsuit Labs are hiring for development of the game.  I don't want to be a Debbie downer but prove to me otherwise.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Happydeathclaw on February 18, 2021, 05:00:43 pm
Lets face it already, yet another great franchise has been ruined by a bunch worthless maggots, stfu in their faces. That's it, the end.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Talyn82 on February 18, 2021, 09:21:46 pm
Lets face it already, yet another great franchise has been ruined by a bunch worthless maggots, stfu in their faces. That's it, the end.


My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on February 18, 2021, 10:07:01 pm
How many of you guys still think they aren't going to change Brian's work? To be honest, the longer the silence, the more I start to believe they are definitely messing around with that as well. At first I was "a lot of the work was done already, so they aren't going to change too much, even if firing him makes me suspicious", but at this point it feels more like "are they developing a new game from scratch or what?"
Is the PR team trying to stay silent for a few more months so that casual fans of the franchise are more likely to forget the various blunders so far? I mean, I fully expect PR to lie/exaggerate, not to stay silent, it's just weird.
I would say that this is (highly?) unlikely because first it costs more money. Lets face it Bloodlines 2 won´t be a best seller and therefore why put more money into this project?
Second this is my main point. Ok if they really working from scratch why on earth should Hardsuit Labs still be allowed to work on Bloodlines 2? This doesn´t make any sense.

Also guys don´t forget the pandemic which isn´t an excuse for everything but hey it has definitely an impact.
And after all of departures and firings (Bloodlines 2 lost all of its known spokespersons) well is it really surprising that they sit out the shitstorm?
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Wesp5 on February 20, 2021, 12:46:10 pm
I just asked Rik Schaffer via email about the audio director job and he told me that he never had that position with Bloodlines 2. He only composed the music...
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: mdqp on February 20, 2021, 01:54:13 pm
Posting this here too, as the topic came up: I just asked Rik Schaffer via email about the audio director job and he told me that he never had that position with Bloodlines 2. He only composed the music...
Thanks for letting us know.  :smiley:
Now, if only you could infiltrate HSL HQ and bring us more news about what's going on, that would be great. How many points do you have in obfuscate?  :cometome:
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on February 23, 2021, 03:56:36 pm
To answer my question, well it seems impossible that we hear anything in March.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Wesp5 on February 23, 2021, 04:51:51 pm
I wouldn't say that, they should at least announce the new studio!
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on February 23, 2021, 04:57:59 pm
I wouldn't say that, they should at least announce the new studio!
I won´t rule this out but it seems highly unlikely that we will hear anything. I believe they wait and hope that the current shitstorm will end some time later this year but in March is too early.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Signothorn on February 23, 2021, 05:57:09 pm
I wish they'd make something solid but simple to tie us over. Let's say they already had much of the city from the defunct MMO, added some roleplay functionality like Grand Theft Auto V has, voice chat, keybound emotes, vampire powers/abilities and an sdk to alter maps? Like Rust, people would have their own servers and rules. If you've ever watched NoPixel or other GTA RP whitelisted servers, I could totally see that working in WoD, and I think it would be popular to stream. I don't think it would be terribly difficult to get off the ground. Idk, I've lost hope and mostly moved on to other interests. I hope we get another game someday.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Wesp5 on February 23, 2021, 06:37:48 pm
I wish they'd make something solid but simple to tie us over. Let's say they already had much of the city from the defunct MMO, added some roleplay functionality like Grand Theft Auto V has, voice chat, keybound emotes, vampire powers/abilities and an sdk to alter maps?
Wasn't there some Battle Royal game announced recently? That could be intended to carry us over, at least if they make it free to play ;)! Also I believe announcing the studio could take a lot of heat off, provided they choose a studio that people have more trust in...
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on February 23, 2021, 06:40:50 pm
Wasn't there some Battle Royal game announced recently? That could be intended to carry us over, at least if they make it free to play ;)! Also I believe announcing the studio could take a lot of heat off, provided they choose a studio that people have more trust in...

I think its more wise to promote Vampire Swansong than this Battle Royale thing in 2021.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire:_The_Masquerade_%E2%80%93_Swansong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire:_The_Masquerade_%E2%80%93_Swansong)
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on March 13, 2021, 05:35:29 pm
Well today is March 13th but i still highly doubt that they talk about Bloodlines 2 at all.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on March 13, 2021, 07:58:50 pm
I don´t know why i wasted 1 hour because of course they haven´t talked about Bloodlines 2.  :facepalm:

Maybe we get some news at the next event the PDXCON REMIXED on May 21st – 23rd but i doubt that.
https://twitter.com/PdxInteractive/status/1370813315581116416 (https://twitter.com/PdxInteractive/status/1370813315581116416)


Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: mdqp on March 14, 2021, 08:10:21 am
I don´t know why i wasted 1 hour because of course they haven´t talked about Bloodlines 2.  :facepalm:
Thanks for suffering through it, so we don't have to.  :vampwink:
Title: Re: Maybe some news at Paradox Insider Show ( March 13th, 8p.m. CET) ?
Post by: Sabbat_stalker on March 14, 2021, 01:30:38 pm
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Title: Re: Maybe some news at PDXCON Remix ( May 21-23) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on April 26, 2021, 08:31:39 pm
I changed the thread title for the next event. The PDXCON Remixed will take place on May 21-23.https://pdxcon.paradoxplaza.com/ (https://pdxcon.paradoxplaza.com/)
So yeah that´s Paradox own big show for this year. I don´t think that they attend the E3 so that´s your next shot. I don´t expect anything but the name of the new studio would be neat. Also if Bloodlines 2 isn´t featured there i doubt that it will be somewhere else this year.


 
Title: Re: Maybe some news at PDXCON Remix ( May 21-23) ?
Post by: Talyn82 on April 28, 2021, 05:19:25 am
Once again Wilhelm thank you for keeping us in informed.  I sincerely hope there is any news on the game.  I'm still not sure if this other developer is building upon what HardSuit Labs had already done or are they starting from scratch?  If the latter it may be a long long time before we hear anything if at all.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at PDXCON Remix ( May 21-23) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on May 02, 2021, 07:52:55 pm
or are they starting from scratch? 
If they do that they should rename this game. I only was ok with the previous Bloodlines 2 version because it had Brian Mitsoda, Rik Schaffer and Margaret Tang which made it legit. But of course Paradox won´t do that for obvious marketing reasons.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at PDXCON Remix ( May 21-23) ?
Post by: Talyn82 on May 02, 2021, 10:18:41 pm
or are they starting from scratch? 
If they do that they should rename this game. I only was ok with the previous Bloodlines 2 version because it had Brian Mitsoda, Rik Schaffer and Margaret Tang which made it legit. But of course Paradox won´t do that for obvious marketing reasons.



Well for the uninformed the ones who haven't been following the news.  If the new developer is starting from scratch, and Paradox chooses to keep the name.  Those who don't know of the firings and layoffs will still buy it based on the old developer interview videos.  Those casual fans would most likely still think Hardsuit Labs developed the game.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at PDXCON Remix ( May 21-23) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on May 21, 2021, 05:09:03 pm
"Even though we're not a part of the #PDXCON  stage this time (as we have so much stuff coming later on this year, starting from next month!)..."
https://twitter.com/outstarwalker/status/1395714424212803588 (https://twitter.com/outstarwalker/status/1395714424212803588)

So they have absolutely nothing to show or any announcement to make at their own big event. So yeah no news for Bloodlines 2 in this year then.
Of course theoretically Bloodlines 2 could have some presence at the E3 or Gamescom but this seems highly unlikely.
Edit: Maybe the rumour is true that Bloodlines 2 is work from scratch by the new studio.
Title: Re: Maybe some news at PDXCON Remix ( May 21-23) ?
Post by: Wesp5 on May 21, 2021, 05:43:10 pm
"Even though we're not a part of the #PDXCON  stage this time (as we have so much stuff coming later on this year, starting from next month!)..."
This is weird. Isn't there another WoD vampire game in production besides Bloodlines 2? And they don't have anything to show either...
Title: Re: Maybe some news at PDXCON Remix ( May 21-23) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on May 21, 2021, 06:32:35 pm
This is weird. Isn't there another WoD vampire game in production besides Bloodlines 2? And they don't have anything to show either...
Well there is this Vampire Battle Royale game and of course Swansong but this one is from Nacon like the Werewolf game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire:_The_Masquerade_%E2%80%93_Swansong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire:_The_Masquerade_%E2%80%93_Swansong)
Title: Re: Maybe some news at PDXCON Remix ( May 21-23) ?
Post by: Wesp5 on May 21, 2021, 07:11:36 pm
This is weird. Isn't there another WoD vampire game in production besides Bloodlines 2? And they don't have anything to show either...
Well there is this Vampire Battle Royale game and of course Swansong but this one is from Nacon like the Werewolf game.
Thanks for listing them, but again, a PDXCon with no WoD content at all? Do they really care about the IP?
Title: Re: Maybe some news at PDXCON Remix ( May 21-23) ?
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on May 21, 2021, 09:58:10 pm
Thanks for listing them, but again, a PDXCon with no WoD content at all? Do they really care about the IP?
To be fair they have released recently the mediocre Werewolf game and this Wraith VR game.
And Bloodlines 2 and WoD isn´t the only problem Paradox currently has.

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