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Title: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on October 16, 2019, 03:37:21 pm
Great news for those people who can wait. Bloodlines 2 is set release later 2020 and not March 2020.

To all fans of Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2

For the last three and a half years, we’ve worked hard to bring you a worthy successor to Bloodlines 1. To us, that meant not only making good on the ambitions of this remarkable game, but also a duty to ensure we would not repeat its mistakes. Today, we have to tell you that we need some more time to get you the game you’ve been waiting for. Although Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 will still launch in 2020, we have decided to value quality over making the Q1 launch window.

There are some things we wanted to hit under all circumstances when we set out to follow in Bloodlines’ footsteps: A deep, branching storyline; fascinating and amazingly acted characters; the rich universe of the World of Darkness. We firmly believe that we’re on the right track to get you all of this.

On the flip side, there’s the responsibility to avoid some of the issues that plagued the first game, which was famously launched too early. Over the last few months, it became clear that to stick to our original date would risk repeating that mistake. We won’t do that. In the end, everyone working on this game wants to offer you the best Bloodlines 2 we can.

This hasn’t been an easy- nor our first choice. Throughout 2019 we have been improving our processes and growing our teams, however it soon became clear that this alone won’t allow us to deliver the quality we want at the date we promised.

Your feedback was invaluable in this. It helped us give the proper weight to what we saw, as well. We’d like to thank you, and hope you’ll support us in the decision that came from it.

Many of us from Hardsuit Labs will be in Berlin for PDXCON. For those of you going, we look forward to seeing you there! We will be sharing insights into the development of Bloodlines 2 along with other steps we’ve taken to strengthen our development team  to realize our ambitions for Bloodlines 2.

For those of you who won’t be there, we will be sharing more about this during the PDXCON Announcement stream on Saturday the 19th. We are also opening up a Reddit thread to answer any of your questions in the Bloodlines stream on the following Sunday.

Thanks,

Andy Kipling and Brian Mitsoda, on behalf of the team at Hardsuit Labs

https://www.bloodlines2.com/en/dev-blog-post

By the way its not that necessary but i would love if the option of a playable Nosferatu (but not the Gangrel because Season of the Wolf!!!) is part of main game.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: NateHevens on October 16, 2019, 05:44:52 pm
I know some people are gonna be sad but I am so happy. To me this is indeed great news. I'm looking forward to a brilliant, complete, and fun game that will be immersive and live up to my expectations. And I have all faith in the team to pull it off wonderfully.

For those who are sad, don't be. This is a good sign. This means that Hardsuit Labs and Paradox understand how important it is to get this game right. See this as a positive. See this as exactly what needs to be done.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on October 16, 2019, 06:42:22 pm
Sorry Vampiredave or all the others are sad but this really great news. In March 2020 could be released but what are the costs to achieve this goal?
I believe like the devs pointed that only a few people want to have that Bloodlines 2 release in a state similiar to Bloodlines 1.
Really guys this is awesome.  I believe we all can wait longer for a better game. Also there are only a few months on top. ;)
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Candy Narwhal on October 16, 2019, 10:04:35 pm
I think this is the only time I've seen everyone on the internet unanimously agree about a delay. I'm all for it too - just to file down all the rough-looking edges, if nothing else.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: DarkProphet on October 17, 2019, 03:48:40 am
So glad. This isn't Madden 8 Billion, Call of Duty 26, etc. It seemed unlikely Bloodlines 1 would ever have a sequel. This is a miracle game. Just its announcement video months back made me scream like a teenage girl and run around my apartment in circles. I do not want some mere game the devs sloppily shit out half-aborted. I want a game that makes me fall prostrate, crying tears of joy as I thank God I was allowed to live long enough to play the game.

So I'm pretty happy about the delay, yo.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: argikt on October 17, 2019, 09:56:25 am
For me, the delay is not a surprise... A lot of games suffer relay on their releases.

I'm happy and sad for the news...
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Highwayman667 on October 18, 2019, 06:03:03 pm
For me, the delay is not a surprise... A lot of games suffer relay on their releases.

Hopefully they'll focus more on the combat and the AI, specially since the latter wasn't looking very... "pretty" xD
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: DarkProphet on October 19, 2019, 04:17:28 am
For me, the delay is not a surprise... A lot of games suffer relay on their releases.

Hopefully they'll focus more on the combat and the AI, specially since the latter wasn't looking very... "pretty" xD

Yeah, I felt really awkward watching the player character do that weird flip-kick that jars the camera away from where you're looking and doesn't seem useful so much as distracting and interfering with the player killing stuff.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: mdqp on October 19, 2019, 09:04:52 pm
I was expecting this, the announcement seemed to close to the release date, given what we were told and shown about the game. It's a bit of a bummer, but it's all about getting a better game at the end of the wait. I feel more relaxed now, actually, I really thought the original release window wasn't going to give them enough time. Now though, I'll have to consider whether I should save my GOG store credits or spend them on something else.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Highwayman667 on October 19, 2019, 10:43:09 pm
Yeah, I felt really awkward watching the player character do that weird flip-kick that jars the camera away from where you're looking and doesn't seem useful so much as distracting and interfering with the player killing stuff.

It's related to the noticeable disadvantage in not having a third person view anymore, at least a toggled one.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: DarkProphet on October 20, 2019, 02:15:47 am
Yeah, I felt really awkward watching the player character do that weird flip-kick that jars the camera away from where you're looking and doesn't seem useful so much as distracting and interfering with the player killing stuff.

It's related to the noticeable disadvantage in not having a third person view anymore, at least a toggled one.

I agree to some extent, though even with a third person camera, that flip-kick looks as though you don't intentionally trigger it. I hope I'm wrong, because you seem to lose all control when you do it.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on November 21, 2019, 06:28:04 pm
Well the Half Life VR Spinof Half Life: Alyx is real and is set to release in March 2020.
A good thing that Bloodlines 2 is delayed. We don´t need that another Half Life game kills Bloodlines 2.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Wesp5 on November 21, 2019, 09:04:11 pm
Well the Half Life VR Spinof Half Life: Alyx is real and is set to release in March 2020.
A good thing that Bloodlines 2 is delayed. We don´t need that another Half Life game kills Bloodlines 2.

Damn, you are right! I just read about this. But I believe as this is not Half-Life 3 and VR only too, it might be quite not as successful as HL2...
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: DarkProphet on November 23, 2019, 04:17:00 pm
Well the Half Life VR Spinof Half Life: Alyx is real and is set to release in March 2020.
A good thing that Bloodlines 2 is delayed. We don´t need that another Half Life game kills Bloodlines 2.

Damn, you are right! I just read about this. But I believe as this is not Half-Life 3 and VR only too, it might be quite not as successful as HL2...

Yeah, word on the street is that it takes place between HL1 and HL2 since Episode 2 Spoiler:
Eli Vance looks to be alive in the trailer and we don't see Gordon.

And I don't know about all of you, but VR doesn't have enough good-looking games in my opinion for me to justify not only buying VR, but having it in my way at home.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: mdqp on November 25, 2019, 02:21:52 pm
Damn, you are right! I just read about this. But I believe as this is not Half-Life 3 and VR only too, it might be quite not as successful as HL2...

Yeah, we are safe on this one. If I remember correctly, computers with VR headsets are a whopping 1% of the Steam population. Even if this was a crazy success, I'd be astonished to hear it doubled the amount of VR headsets in circulation. If Bloodlines is in competition with THAT, the game would be doomed.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on December 10, 2019, 03:25:01 pm
Thank god for the Bloodlines 2 delay. We have another big boy for March / April.  On April the 3rd the Resident Evil 3 Remake (which looks awesome by the way)  is currently
planned to release.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Highwayman667 on December 11, 2019, 02:12:50 am
Thank god for the Bloodlines 2 delay. We have another big boy for March / April.  On April the 3rd the Resident Evil 3 Remake (which looks awesome by the way)  is currently
planned to release.

Underwhelming trailer for RE3 tho... guess we'll have to wait for more content.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on December 11, 2019, 07:12:58 pm
Underwhelming trailer for RE3 tho... guess we'll have to wait for more content.
I think its look great. The same feeling like RE 2 Remake but with Nemesis instead of Mr. X
Maybe you find this video more informative which has a small clip of real gameplay.

Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Wesp5 on December 11, 2019, 07:42:58 pm
I think its look great. The same feeling like RE 2 Remake but with Nemesis instead of Mr. X

So the new trend is not even making sequels, but just remaking old games with better graphics?
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on December 11, 2019, 08:09:12 pm
So the new trend is not even making sequels, but just remaking old games with better graphics?
There is also a Resident Evil 8 in the making but its really awesome to have a remake for such old game.
And we are talking about a real remake with modernized gameplay and feel. Yeah i love this PS1 and PS2 era remakes when they are clearly remakes and bad remasters.
Last but not least after 20 years its okay to make a remake. ;)
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Nanaloma on December 12, 2019, 12:16:36 am
I don't think improved graphics for VtMB would be enough to get me to buy it again.  I've never played RE so perhaps a remake of an old game would work but it seems pointless unless it really does a huge boost to game play. 
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Highwayman667 on December 12, 2019, 06:23:19 am
I don't think improved graphics for VtMB would be enough to get me to buy it again.  I've never played RE so perhaps a remake of an old game would work but it seems pointless unless it really does a huge boost to game play.

It really does, but far more noticeably in regards to Resident Evil 2. Just check that game in it's 1998 version and against the 2019 one. You'll have to pick pieces of your brain from the floor.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: DarkProphet on December 25, 2019, 08:19:25 pm
I don't think improved graphics for VtMB would be enough to get me to buy it again.  I've never played RE so perhaps a remake of an old game would work but it seems pointless unless it really does a huge boost to game play.

It really does, but far more noticeably in regards to Resident Evil 2. Just check that game in it's 1998 version and against the 2019 one. You'll have to pick pieces of your brain from the floor.

Yeah, RE2 remake was my favorite game this year and it has incredible differences over the original. Although I look forward to the RE3 remake because I love stuff getting improved, I never liked the original RE3 and its pundits' only arguments consisted of "Jill is so hot" and "Nemesis is so cool/scary."
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Highwayman667 on December 25, 2019, 10:55:09 pm
Yeah, RE2 remake was my favorite game this year and it has incredible differences over the original. Although I look forward to the RE3 remake because I love stuff getting improved, I never liked the original RE3 and its pundits' only arguments consisted of "Jill is so hot" and "Nemesis is so cool/scary."

So much yes to this. RE3 is quite overrated; it's a rehash of RE2 with a slight change of setting, underdeveloped combat mechanics (against nemesis) and a story that doesn't really go anywhere.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: MooCHa on January 04, 2020, 03:51:08 pm
I don't think improved graphics for VtMB would be enough to get me to buy it again.  I've never played RE so perhaps a remake of an old game would work but it seems pointless unless it really does a huge boost to game play.

It really does, but far more noticeably in regards to Resident Evil 2. Just check that game in it's 1998 version and against the 2019 one. You'll have to pick pieces of your brain from the floor.

Yeah, RE2 remake was my favorite game this year and it has incredible differences over the original. Although I look forward to the RE3 remake because I love stuff getting improved, I never liked the original RE3 and its pundits' only arguments consisted of "Jill is so hot" and "Nemesis is so cool/scary."

Yep, Totally on the RE2 Remake Bandwagon. Love the remake. I think I've still got the original PSX game there somewhere.

I'm excited about RE3 too. I'm hoping it isn't a let down. The original was pretty poor back in the day. But what has got me interested even more is Resident Evil Resistance that comes with it which reminds me of Dead by Daylight :)

Anyway, We all know its all about Jill and the fap ;) Look even Mr X likes to have a sniff of her feet. Maybe, Signo might wanna get in on the Jill feet sniff action and bow to the Queen.

Hail to the Queen, Baby! :P

A little screenshot just taken so no one misses out on the fap ;)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mr2mB2FF/jillre2rem.jpg)
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: thewarsend on January 06, 2020, 12:48:24 am
I think its look great. The same feeling like RE 2 Remake but with Nemesis instead of Mr. X

So the new trend is not even making sequels, but just remaking old games with better graphics?

Not a bad thing if you ask me. I am not saying they shouldn't make new games instead, they should, but some really old games deserve a remake. It is better than all those cash grab multiplayer focused games most developers seems to be stuck at.

Will they go ahead and remake really old games? Probably not, in all likelihood they will go where money is and this seems to be the new trend nowadays.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on January 14, 2020, 05:20:00 pm
I know its off-topic but yeez this new trailer is awesome.



And the Avengers Game and Final Fantasy 7 Remake are also delayed.  Final Fantasy 7 Remake just one month and Avengers to September 4, 2020.
https://crystald.com/news/important-marvels-avengers-update

I doubt that Avengers delay could be a problem for Bloodlines 2 if they share the same month for a release.

Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: Highwayman667 on January 14, 2020, 05:47:17 pm
STAAARS

He's back baby.

But please Capcom, whatever you do, don't bring back that fucking dodge mechanic from the original.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 gets delayed
Post by: MooCHa on January 15, 2020, 03:32:35 pm
Nemesis looks awesome. I stopped the trailer right after him when I watched it elsewhere so it lessens the spoilers.

I actually need to knock playing Resi games on the head for a bit :) 5 play through of RE2 remake and 1 of Biohazard 7 since boxing day. 5 of those since the new year came in ;)
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