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Title: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: AnnekeFloorever on July 20, 2022, 12:43:48 am
Article:
https://www.pcgamer.com/bloodlines-2-is-in-good-hands-but-wont-appear-at-this-years-pdxcon/ (https://www.pcgamer.com/bloodlines-2-is-in-good-hands-but-wont-appear-at-this-years-pdxcon/)




Seriously, how much more time do they need?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: Barabbah on July 20, 2022, 07:38:32 am
I really want it to be released, but I don't want another Cyberpunk 2077 disaster (which by the way is fault of the testing agency who screwed them big)....
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: Monjh on July 20, 2022, 03:33:36 pm
Like I said before, I really do hope I'm wrong and they release the game (and a good one to boot), but...


Usually, when a company becomes quiet about a game (only giving cryptic or too general responses), that means that it will be abandoned (at least for the time being), it's just not official.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on July 20, 2022, 07:38:36 pm
Seriously, how much more time do they need?  :facepalm:
Well this said it all: "Wester implied in October 2021 that everything Hardsuit had come up with was being scrapped, saying that Bloodlines 2 was almost cancelled outright  until "we got a pitch that we thought was convincing enough to run"."
So of course it takes much longer to make a complete new game (version) rather than finishing the parts that Hardsuit Labs had made.
I am not sure if this comparison is right but this is more Bloodlines 3 than Bloodlines 2.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: mdqp on July 24, 2022, 02:35:39 pm
Seriously, how much more time do they need?  :facepalm:
Well this said it all: "Wester implied in October 2021 that everything Hardsuit had come up with was being scrapped, saying that Bloodlines 2 was almost cancelled outright  until "we got a pitch that we thought was convincing enough to run"."
So of course it takes much longer to make a complete new game (version) rather than finishing the parts that Hardsuit Labs had made.
I am not sure if this comparison is right but this is more Bloodlines 3 than Bloodlines 2.
Bloodlines 2.2 Take 2: Return Of The Electric-Boogaloo. It's kind of weird knowing that there was a game which (I assume) was almost finished, but we'll never see, I guess I'll just wish this one is good and comes out before I die of old age.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: tarulu on July 24, 2022, 06:59:07 pm
I hope they change the name


then I feel much better
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: Wilhelm-Streicher on July 26, 2022, 08:28:28 pm
I hope they change the name
then I feel much better
They will never do this because of branding recognition value. Bloodlines 1 because of all the fan patches aka the headlines in several gaming sites over the years is still a name which is remember fondly within the game industry and players as like.
But that´s just Bloodlines 1 good reputation and i would argue that Bloodlines 2 even it hadn´t been released already has a bad one.Also who that this Bloodlines 2 is not completly different in design and gameplay than Bloodlines 1 und the first version of Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs?
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: Vinland on July 28, 2022, 09:53:07 pm
Seriously, how much more time do they need?  :facepalm:
Well this said it all: "Wester implied in October 2021 that everything Hardsuit had come up with was being scrapped, saying that Bloodlines 2 was almost cancelled outright  until "we got a pitch that we thought was convincing enough to run"."
So of course it takes much longer to make a complete new game (version) rather than finishing the parts that Hardsuit Labs had made.
I am not sure if this comparison is right but this is more Bloodlines 3 than Bloodlines 2.

This is 100% not true. Actually, the opposite is true. Wester heavily implied that they would just continue where Hard Suit left off.

https://www.avanza.se/placera/telegram/2021/10/13/paradox-tror-pa-bloodlines-avvaktar-storsatsning-rollspel-vd.html

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When Bloodlines 2's developers were replaced at the beginning of the year, there was speculation in the industry media that the game more or less needed to be redone from the beginning. However, these are speculations that Fredrik Wester does not confirm, but he states that much of the development that was done then can still be used in the game.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: Pyoro-2 on August 10, 2022, 08:40:54 am
Original release was supposed to be late 2020, right? Then they got annoyed at the state of the game / nothing being finished / having to delay it again. So we already can guess that it'd have been a significant delay had HSL kept working on it, maybe mid-2021, generously speaking, possibly later - without regard what sort of quality the product would have been.


Now instead it must have taken some months to find a new developer, some more in analyzing what they had available, what could be kept, what needed to be finished, what needed to be done from scratch. And then some more time to actually make it happen, including building up their own development team, etc. In the middle of corona, as well.


So I'd the timeline so far is understandable in regard that it's not finished. But less in that they are still not willing to show anything by September. That's a good two years then. Even a project that's done from scratch should have some footage you can show by then ...


Odd strategy.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: Compassion on August 18, 2022, 11:06:49 am
Seriously, how much more time do they need?  :facepalm:
?????????????????????

What the what the what ?

They friggin changed the developer.

And probably changed concepts, big time, because they didnt liked where the project was going.

I would be most extremely surprised if they would have already something to show the public.

And for the record, I prefer the pre-EA Bioware motto "Its done when its done" over "lets use our playerbase as betatesters".
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: Monjh on August 18, 2022, 05:01:22 pm
They had more than enough time to show proof of concept.


The delay in showing anything is only good to people that is so absorbed in the idea that can't see the communist parade of red flags.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: Compassion on September 23, 2022, 03:18:41 pm
Wait, what ?

"Proof of concept" for a computer game ?

ROTFL
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: Monjh on September 23, 2022, 05:17:45 pm
Yeah... Wait and see to understand why it is a bad thing when the company doesn't show anything until it is close to launch.


This is not my first rodeo, kid.
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: Compassion on September 24, 2022, 10:35:11 pm
Nobody calls that a "proof of concept", baby.

Also I couldnt care less as long as the final game is good.

Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: Monjh on September 25, 2022, 07:08:13 am
That's the point. Considering all, I'm not confident it will even be released without butchering the basic premises of the game.


And good that you understood what I wanted to say. English is not my first language. =)
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
Post by: AnnekeFloorever on November 05, 2022, 02:52:34 am
CEO of Paradox just tweeted that BL2 news coming soon:


https://twitter.com/TheWesterFront/status/1587411034876395521 (https://twitter.com/TheWesterFront/status/1587411034876395521)
Title: Re: Bloodlines 2 'is in good hands' but won't appear at this year's PDXCon.
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